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California creates state-run private retirement plan (6 million lower-income workers to pay 3%)
Yahoo ^ | 9/28/12 | JUDY LIN

Posted on 09/29/2012 2:14:19 PM PDT by Libloather

Calif. creates state-run private retirement plan
By JUDY LIN | Associated Press – 18 hrs ago

SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) — California Gov. Jerry Brown signed legislation Friday that will create the nation's first state-administered retirement savings program for private-sector workers, over the objection of critics who said it creates a new liability for taxpayers.

The bill will establish the California Secure Choice Retirement Savings Program for more than 6 million lower-income, private-sector workers whose employers do not offer retirement plans.

The program directs employers to withhold 3 percent of their workers' pay unless the employee opts out of the savings program, which can be done every two years. It would be administered by a seven-member board chaired by the state treasurer. The board would select a professional fund manager, which could be a private investment firm or the state's public pension system, to maintain the money.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: california; pensions; privateretirement
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And if you can't pay for Commiecare™, well, let's just say that you will pay for Commiecare™. Oh, and if its state-run, it ain't private.

NYT - 9/22/12 - California Takes On the Retirement Crisis

One of the advantages of the plan is that pooled contributions and professional management would reduce administrative costs and investing mistakes, which would boost returns beyond what most 401(k) investors achieve on their own.

The plan also calls for a guaranteed minimum return, via private insurance and reserves. That would be expensive, so the guarantee would likely be very modest, but it would ensure that all participants ended up with something, without requiring taxpayers to incur the risk of making good on investments gone bad.

1 posted on 09/29/2012 2:14:29 PM PDT by Libloather
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To: Libloather

Yeah, this’ll work. [Chortle, snort]


2 posted on 09/29/2012 2:18:14 PM PDT by rbg81
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To: Libloather

Reason 618 to run away from Cali.


3 posted on 09/29/2012 2:20:50 PM PDT by upchuck (I miss my dog Snoopy. May 16, 1997-September 24, 2012 -- 15 years, 4 months. Forever in my heart.)
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To: Libloather

Run! Don’t walk away from this one.

It’s a sort of Mandatory, sort of optional thing ya’know. You get a chance to opt out every two years. How generous of them.


4 posted on 09/29/2012 2:22:22 PM PDT by The Working Man
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To: Libloather

Says the board will choose a private manage or the state pension system..
No way they’ll choose private, this is just another ponzi scheme to prop up the hugely underfunded PEU system.


5 posted on 09/29/2012 2:24:45 PM PDT by rainee
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To: Libloather

“”first state-administered retirement savings program for private-sector workers””

AND just why are they worried about the “private sector?” They have enough problems with their state worker’s retirement fund....

BAD BAD IDEA!!!


6 posted on 09/29/2012 2:27:59 PM PDT by Thank You Rush
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To: Libloather

I am sure this will work and then they can make it national too


7 posted on 09/29/2012 2:32:34 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Libloather

So, let’s see if I got this right: California is going to setup a retirement plan for low income workers (and illegal aliens), in a state that’s driving out business and productive workers, in a state that’s billions in debt, a state that has underfunded its public employee pensions that it cannot have a hope of paying, and put together by an assembly and governor that can’t stop taxing and spending? What could possibly go wrong?


8 posted on 09/29/2012 2:33:14 PM PDT by MasterGunner01
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To: Thank You Rush

This is their way of forcing the private sector to pay for the public sector pension


9 posted on 09/29/2012 2:34:11 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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So...

You send in an amount, a small amount mind you, for the state to hold for you, only until you retire, where then they give it back. No doubt, in a locked box the whole time, with steinberg's and brown's fingermittens off of the stash, yeah, sounds invincible!

Got's to admit, they are getting creative in ways to get your money siphoned and funneled out of your pocket.

10 posted on 09/29/2012 2:34:19 PM PDT by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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Participants would also have to sign a liability waiver stating that California would not be liable for losses.
11 posted on 09/29/2012 2:36:30 PM PDT by Snickering Hound
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To: Libloather

State run is the opposite of private.


12 posted on 09/29/2012 2:47:01 PM PDT by SeeSharp
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Good, then the state will control your retirement so you better tow the government line and do as you are told by government, like eating properly and voting properly....


13 posted on 09/29/2012 2:48:27 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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You got it.
And since it STARTS collecting soon but defers benefits for later, well, live for the day and all that. All the politicians will be retired or dead before it collapses.
For now it will be just another payroll tax to put off the day of reckoning.


14 posted on 09/29/2012 2:58:41 PM PDT by buwaya
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And when your ready to retire they will dictate what you will recieve every month, they will entice you in the begining on how much you will recieve when you retire but we all know you will recieve a below the poverty line state check with an excuse for irresponsible spending on their part. Criminal politicians looking for new ways to f you and save thier a##es in the short term. We need to purge!!!


15 posted on 09/29/2012 3:02:50 PM PDT by ronnie raygun (bb)
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To: GeronL

You got it.
And since it STARTS collecting soon but defers benefits for later, well, live for the day and all that. All the politicians will be retired or dead before it collapses.
For now it will be just another payroll tax to put off the day of reckoning.


16 posted on 09/29/2012 3:05:32 PM PDT by buwaya
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CalPERS could create a separate account for private-sector workers, although it's more likely to pool investments with public employees.

LOL! Ya, right. That money will become part of the General Fund ASAP.

17 posted on 09/29/2012 3:05:43 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Congrats to Ted Kennedy! He's been sober for two years now!!)
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To: Libloather

“The program directs employers”

What happens if the employer does not follow the directive?

How long until the “program” directs a matching contribution?

Many details missing.


18 posted on 09/29/2012 3:08:28 PM PDT by Selene
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Employers will direct their ass right out of the state.


19 posted on 09/29/2012 3:13:12 PM PDT by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/?)
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Can't anybody do this right now? Without the government's "help?" I mean, put 3% of your pay into a stock fund or something.

Oh, I get it. This is a pension plan for morons.

20 posted on 09/29/2012 3:15:53 PM PDT by BfloGuy (Without economic freedom, no other form of freedom can have material meaning.)
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