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Hundreds of Thousands Flee Democrat-Run California
Breitbart ^ | September 28, 2012 | TONY LEE

Posted on 09/29/2012 4:35:29 PM PDT by RobinMasters

Due to high taxes, burdensome regulations, lack of public sector reforms, and a lackluster job climate, more people have left California than come to the state since 2005, according to a comprehensive study by the Manhattan Institute released on Tuesday, suggesting California is no longer “perceived by most Americans as the land where dreams come true.”

In the report, titled “The Great California Exodus: A Closer Look," Tom Gray and Robert Scardamalia found Californians have fled to states like Texas, Arizona, Nevada, Colorado, Idaho, South Carolina, and Georgia because those states have a better economic climate with less taxes and regulation.

The report found that between 1960 and 1990, 4.2 million Americans moved to California and helped accelerate California’s booming economy. Since 1990, though, California has lost nearly all of that gain, with net domestic out-migration averaging 225,00 residents a year. Between 2000 and 2010, out-migration has resulted in lost income of 5.67 billion to Nevada, $4.96 billion to Arizona, $4.07 to Texas, and $3.85 billion to Oregon.

The study found that “if all these trends continue, California may find itself in a situation similar to that of New York and the states of the midwestern Rust Belt in the last century, which have seen populations stagnate for decades, or even fall.”

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1 posted on 09/29/2012 4:35:34 PM PDT by RobinMasters
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To: RobinMasters

I know. I’m in Colorado. Loads of Kali plates on cars.


2 posted on 09/29/2012 4:36:44 PM PDT by CodeToad
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To: CodeToad

Like locusts, liberals go to seek new green pastures after ravishing their last one.


3 posted on 09/29/2012 4:39:03 PM PDT by MNDude (OWS Movement RIP)
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To: RobinMasters
They're fleeing to TX as fast as they can.

Go back west, Kalifornians!!

4 posted on 09/29/2012 4:39:36 PM PDT by Jane Long (Soli Deo Gloria!)
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To: RobinMasters
What the article doesn't say is although nearly 5 million have fled the state the net population has grown, and a very large chunk of that are vassals of the state.

Tax base shrunk + spending obligations increased = anarchy around the corner.

5 posted on 09/29/2012 4:41:23 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: RobinMasters

Maybe a new 75% tax will bring hem back?


6 posted on 09/29/2012 4:42:00 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: RobinMasters

Campbell’s Soup just announced they are closing down their Sacramento plant in a few months. 700 jobs gone to someplace, probably Mexico.


7 posted on 09/29/2012 4:42:26 PM PDT by Hugin ("Most times a man'll tell you his bad intentions, if you listen and let yourself hear."---Open Range)
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To: MNDude

California used to be a swing state, now its solid blue. What you are receiving in your states are probably among the last reasonable californians.


8 posted on 09/29/2012 4:43:06 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: Jane Long

The liberal Kalipornicators need to stay out of Texas


9 posted on 09/29/2012 4:43:41 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: RobinMasters

“if all these trends continue, California may find itself in a situation similar to that of New York and the states of the midwestern Rust Belt in the last century, which have seen populations stagnate for decades, or even fall.”

Nope. Southern Cali will become North Mexico.

Then there will probably be some shooting.


10 posted on 09/29/2012 4:45:45 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny ("Allah" isn't a god. It's a mental disorder.)
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To: skeeter

Millions of non-citizens sucking the teats of envy


11 posted on 09/29/2012 4:46:59 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: RobinMasters

I fled California in 1979, when I was in my late 20s. I will NEVER go back there to live, and will ONLY go there in the future for family events (yes, I still have some family there, but likely not for long).


12 posted on 09/29/2012 4:47:31 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: RobinMasters

The problem with these California expats is once they infest your state, they try to change it to the same craphole they escaped from.


13 posted on 09/29/2012 4:47:42 PM PDT by sean327 (God created all men equal, then some become Marines!)
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To: Hugin

Yeah, this way illegals from Mexico can pick vegetables in Kalifornia, so that the vegetables can be sent to Mexico and made into soup and sold back to Americans. Don’t worry though, the illegals will be able to buy soup with their EBT cards.


14 posted on 09/29/2012 4:49:28 PM PDT by Repeat Offender (Official Romney/GOP-E Platform - We suck less)
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To: GeronL

All of the liberal idiots are moving to the south. I don’t see mass migrations to Illinois or Ohio.

Hey, fruitbags....leave your liberal shit just where it infected you, the antidote here is not pleasant.


15 posted on 09/29/2012 4:51:59 PM PDT by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/?)
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To: RobinMasters

Does anybody know how many of those fleeing the state are doing so with those huge CalPERS pension checks in hand???


16 posted on 09/29/2012 4:52:16 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: RobinMasters

Count me as one - in Texas now. Getting rid of CA income tax and disability tax was like a HUGE raise - not to mention not having to deal with the their huge car registration (and insurance) costs. Plus, Texas is a great place to raise kids, relative to California or the Northeast.

Sure, some things are more expensive - like our property tax rate - but even that can be controlled, as you can choose to live in a cheap place, even if you make big bucks.

Yes, our sales tax rate is high - but for big purchases, we can deduct. It winds up that the real sales tax rate on a car is about 5% in Texas (about half of California).

Having said all of that, I still love California. It’s a gorgeous state and I still have many friends there. Not to mention Tommy’s and In-and-Out. My last vacation was to California. But as for a place to make a living and raise a family, California priced itself out decades ago.


17 posted on 09/29/2012 4:52:16 PM PDT by BobL (You can live each day only once. You can waste a few, but don't waste too many.)
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To: eyedigress

bump


18 posted on 09/29/2012 4:52:34 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: GeronL

“The liberal Kalipornicators need to stay out of Texas”

Not me. I haven’t been liberal since high school, and living in California only made me more conservative. So I come to Texas a lot more like a Texan than many natives here.


19 posted on 09/29/2012 4:54:21 PM PDT by BobL (You can live each day only once. You can waste a few, but don't waste too many.)
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To: sean327
Just look at what the influx of "Mass-holes" did to the once ultra conservative state of New Hampshire (back when we had William Loeb and Mel Thompson).

The Kenyan must go.

20 posted on 09/29/2012 4:54:37 PM PDT by ex91B10 (We've tried the Soap Box,the Ballot Box and the Jury Box; ONE BOX LEFT!)
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To: Hugin

Actually, Ohio and North Carolina.


21 posted on 09/29/2012 4:55:27 PM PDT by BelegStrongbow (St. Joseph, patron of fathers, pray for us!)
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To: RobinMasters
We moved to Arizona in 2009 with my husband's company. They had been in SoCal for 50+ years. I miss the fun extracurricular activities, bot the crime, taxes, traffic, phony people (not ALL Californians are phony but a good percentage are), etc. Miss my good friends from there though! I don't think Arizona minds we are here. We are CONSERVATIVE!
22 posted on 09/29/2012 4:56:06 PM PDT by originalbuckeye
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To: CodeToad

Those people are killing this state.


23 posted on 09/29/2012 4:56:55 PM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: sean327

The problem with people who complain about things they have no idea about is that they say the stupidest things imaginable and cause the greatest confusion.


24 posted on 09/29/2012 4:57:39 PM PDT by BelegStrongbow (St. Joseph, patron of fathers, pray for us!)
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To: RobinMasters

bkmk


25 posted on 09/29/2012 4:58:22 PM PDT by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: ought-six

“I fled California in 1979...”

Same here. It was a cesspool even then, full of serial killers and run by Jerry Brown and Rose Bird. It was so unsafe I didn’t dare let my wife go to the market by herself after dusk. Their environmental regs required us to put strange smog devices on our cars that wrecked them. It was a freaking toilet and hasn’t gotten any better. And the fools even brought back Brown.


26 posted on 09/29/2012 4:58:58 PM PDT by Luke21
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To: BobL

Then you can stay, help build barricades


27 posted on 09/29/2012 5:00:11 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: RobinMasters

and leave your LibTurd Voting crap in California!


28 posted on 09/29/2012 5:00:29 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: RobinMasters

*but not* I hate it when my fingers get too fast for the words.


29 posted on 09/29/2012 5:02:24 PM PDT by originalbuckeye
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To: BobL

In-N-Out is in Texas now, too.

Tommy’s is reportedly considering moving as much of their customer base has moved here.


30 posted on 09/29/2012 5:05:17 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: RobinMasters

All you can do is hope that the people who fled Democrat California aren’t the same scumbags who voted in the Democrats who fouled their nest in the first place.


31 posted on 09/29/2012 5:05:26 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: skeeter
Tax base shrunk + spending obligations increased = anarchy around the corner.

Thank goodness California's Democrat state legislature is rushing to pass laws dealing with the really important stuff like circumcision, Feng Shui building codes, plastic bags, Happy Meals, faggot history for kindergardners, etc., etc.

32 posted on 09/29/2012 5:08:38 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: MileHi

No kidding! They can’t DRIVE!!!


33 posted on 09/29/2012 5:12:30 PM PDT by CodeToad
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To: ex91B10

Massholes are everywhere! California was destroyed By Eastern Transplants!


34 posted on 09/29/2012 5:12:50 PM PDT by acapesket
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To: MNDude

AND they’ll no doubt be bringing their cancer of voting habits with them!


35 posted on 09/29/2012 5:13:22 PM PDT by CodeToad
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To: RobinMasters

CA has already passed the point of no return in it’s race to 3rd world status. Taxpayers leaving is just a sign of this. Expect this to accelerate.


36 posted on 09/29/2012 5:19:04 PM PDT by umgud (No Rats, No Rino's)
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To: RobinMasters

California is now, in fact, primarily a third world country.


37 posted on 09/29/2012 5:19:10 PM PDT by MarMema (eh.)
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To: acapesket
Massholes are everywhere! California was destroyed By Eastern Transplants!

Yup. I remember the 'Welcome to California. Now Go Home' campaign.

38 posted on 09/29/2012 5:19:10 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: RobinMasters

I was born, bred here in Orange County, CA..I’ve never left! Mine & hubby’s family here too so it would be so hard to leave but we think about it...thankfully OC is mostly conservative but the illegals are mass producing, Santa Ana now resembles Tijuana.


39 posted on 09/29/2012 5:24:22 PM PDT by rainee
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“Then you can stay, help build barricades (in Texas)”

LOL, thanks. I have no intention of fitting the California transplant stereotype here in Texas. Texas is JUST FINE as it is - and if I didn’t like it, I’d leave.


40 posted on 09/29/2012 5:41:02 PM PDT by BobL (You can live each day only once. You can waste a few, but don't waste too many.)
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To: Spktyr

“In-N-Out is in Texas now, too. Tommy’s is reportedly considering moving as much of their customer base has moved here.”

I know!! I’m in Houston, but took a 4 hour road trip to sample In-and-Out in Dallas. Outstanding, of course. Tommy’s I didn’t know about, but they would absolutely kick butt here.


41 posted on 09/29/2012 5:42:29 PM PDT by BobL (You can live each day only once. You can waste a few, but don't waste too many.)
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To: RobinMasters
La Raza will take over without firing a shot.

Leni

42 posted on 09/29/2012 5:58:05 PM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: skeeter
California used to be a swing state, now its solid blue.

You mean, solid brown.

Like, crap.
43 posted on 09/29/2012 6:02:36 PM PDT by adorno
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To: adorno

No I mean blue, as in Democrat.


44 posted on 09/29/2012 6:06:05 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: skeeter
No I mean blue, as in Democrat.

Still crap. No difference.
45 posted on 09/29/2012 6:25:59 PM PDT by adorno
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To: adorno

We’re one of the $4.07 billion to Texas. Miss my family, miss my friends, don’t miss much else. We’re conservative so I suspect a net plus to the state. And we’re really glad to be here.

I’ve looked at moving back from time to time (family mostly) but I’m really doubtful at this point. The education system and economy scares me.


46 posted on 09/29/2012 6:37:01 PM PDT by Toirdhealbheach Beucail (Am fear nach gheibh na h-airm 'n am na sith, cha bith iad aige 'nam a chogaidh)
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To: sean327
The problem with these California expats is once they infest your state, they try to change it to the same craphole they escaped from.

What happens in a town when the privileged move in (MA Libs Move To New Hampshire)

47 posted on 09/29/2012 6:49:33 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (Obama gives us the gift of downward mobility)
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To: skeeter

That is incorrect. It is only the coastal edge that is blue. At least 3/4 of the counties are red.

http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/2008_election_county-by-county/


48 posted on 09/29/2012 6:53:22 PM PDT by marsh2
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To: sean327

Just like the average muslim.


49 posted on 09/29/2012 7:00:38 PM PDT by 353FMG (The US Constitution is only as effective as those who enforce it.)
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To: marsh2
That is incorrect. It is only the coastal edge that is blue. At least 3/4 of the counties are red.

Some consolation.

When the state is overwhelmingly "blue", it has all turned to crap.
50 posted on 09/29/2012 7:00:47 PM PDT by adorno
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