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Rasmussen: Yes, Dems likely have 2-4 point advantage in November
Washington Examiner ^ | 9-29-2012 | Byron York

Posted on 09/29/2012 8:21:34 PM PDT by smoothsailing

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To: smoothsailing

No Republican calls Romney “Mittens”


151 posted on 09/30/2012 9:37:27 AM PDT by Siegfried X
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To: smoothsailing

I think he’s underpolling what I like to call the “pizzed off effect” which is going to pump up the GOP percentage significantly.


152 posted on 09/30/2012 10:11:55 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: TheOldLady

153 posted on 09/30/2012 10:28:56 AM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: 103198

Nice thread.

mark...


154 posted on 09/30/2012 5:09:55 PM PDT by 103198
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To: paul544

I don’t think Romney is ahead, but this idea that pollsters long for credibility and accuracy is ludicrous, based on their not calling the 08 race bu the correct margin. The only pollster to do that was Ras. Several other pollsters were, 4, 5 and even 6 points off.


155 posted on 09/30/2012 6:09:24 PM PDT by Tea Party Terrorist (Your tattoo looks stupid.)
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To: devolve

FYI
Rasmussen has been a registered
democrat since Jimmy Carter!


With all due respect, if you are going to put huge post with all red text, you need to give a source....

According to Wikipedia quoting Rasmussen himself, he was raised in Republican household, migrated to dems after Nixon debacle, and now is independent; If you read entire quote, you can see that he really is very likely NOT a democrat.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Rasmussen

~Speaking about his political views, Rasmussen said, “I was brought up loosely as a Republican, but at our family dinner table we talked about the important politics of the New York Giants and the New York Yankees. There was no political discussion in my life growing up. I became a Democrat after Richard Nixon and into the Jimmy Carter era and have been an Independent ever since. I spoke today about how the American people were skeptical about politicians—well, I’m more skeptical. I really do see the core issue as the political class versus mainstream voters. I think that is a much bigger gap than Republican, Democrat, conservative, or liberal.”[2]~


156 posted on 09/30/2012 6:22:32 PM PDT by bushwon ("If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait till it is free"--PJ O'rourke)
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To: smoothsailing

My county is 2 to 1 Democrats advantage for most elections. Last election, Obama only won by 4 votes.

I have not seen one single Obama sign - not one. Several Romney/Ryan signs on display.

In spite of the Democrat leanings our community is full of bitter clingers to guns and religion. I expect Romney/Ryan to win. Huge number of union worker support though.


157 posted on 09/30/2012 6:26:06 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Tublecane

“Okay, but why does erring in the side of caution always mean erring on the side of Democrats? “

I think there are two reasons. First is that what history says. Since and including 1984, the average partisan breakdown for all elections was D+2.5. Ras is just using the historical average, which is a reasonable assumption.

I think the second is credibility. He’s a businessman. Being unusually wrong in this business is far more damaging than being unusually correct is beneficial. And, let’s face it, the Dems are better at pressuring media outlets, so being unusually wrong in favor of Republicans is even MORE damaging.

Ras is using a D+2.5 model while everyone else is using a D+7 or more model. There is zero evidence suggesting a historic Democratic wave, so Scott Rasmussen can be very confident that the turnout will be no more D than D+4 (2008 is the only time that EVER happened since Reagan was elected). Which means he’s pretty much guaranteed to have the closest turnout model. If he’s right, he’s the King of the Pollsters for nailing it. If he’s wrong and this election is even or has more Rs, he’s still far and away the closest and he’s STILL the King of the Pollsters. If he’s wrong and turnout equals the most Democratic it ever was other than 2008, he’s STILL the closest and is STILL the King of the Pollsters.

Basically, with a D+2.5 split, he’s guaranteed to be the closest under any normal circumstances AND has rock solid non-partisan justification for his model. If he models on an R+4, he opens himself up to risk of being a partisan hack and lowers his chances of being the closest. It’s kinda like the Price is Right strategy of betting one dollar more than the previous person.


158 posted on 09/30/2012 9:27:55 PM PDT by lgwdnbdgr
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If Dems have had the advantage since 84 why have they lost four out of seven presidential elections? Firstly because that’s only an average, but also because party advantage by itself is not predictive. There are various other factors, many if them measurable. Pollsters rely on that one because as you say it is considered more objective and less controversial. Which is why I say they live in an alternate reality.


159 posted on 10/01/2012 2:52:01 PM PDT by Tublecane
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