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To: Puckster
After Nov 6th, Rasmussen will have some splaining to do.

So wait...Rasmussen, the most GOP friendly pollster out there, is also wrong? So every pollster is wrong about Obama leading/winning this race? Oh vey. This is getting downright sad.

Folks on our side are now stuck disputing virtually ALL the polls.....yeah, were losing. We don't even have Rasmussen to hang our hat on now. This is worse than I even imagined.

6 posted on 09/29/2012 8:30:09 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: Longbow1969

Jeez. I’m replying to no one in particular.

Ras jumps around, within a narrow band. Romney was ahead with leaners earlier in the week. When he’s ahead again in a few days do we say `whew,’ now we’re gonna win? If the Dem turnout surpasses the Republican turnout by one two or three, we win. If it’s four, it’s truly a tossup. Five or better, we lose.


12 posted on 09/29/2012 8:35:32 PM PDT by nailspitter
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To: Longbow1969

So wait...Rasmussen, the most GOP friendly pollster out there, is also wrong? So every pollster is wrong about Obama leading/winning this race? Oh vey. This is getting downright sad.

Folks on our side are now stuck disputing virtually ALL the polls.....yeah, were losing. We don’t even have Rasmussen to hang our hat on now. This is worse than I even imagined.


Yup. All of a sudden Rasmussen is a commie polling outfit that can’t be trusted sarc/ A lot of whistling past the graveyard going on.


23 posted on 09/29/2012 8:40:30 PM PDT by chessplayer
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To: Longbow1969

I can't imagine a more unbiased analysis than what Rasmussen said in this article. He even said the incumbent is generally expected to lose some ground in the final weeks. It only makes sense that as the challenger gets more well-known, he will gain some support.

IMO the race hasn't even begun until the first debate. Problem is, Romney's performances were so weak in the primary debates that he suffered big losses after getting hammered by Newt and Santorum in them, and he wanted to stop doing debates by about February because he knew they were likely to go against him. He did manage to do two good "comeback" debates against first Newt and Santorum, but only after suffering huge election losses to them. His natural tendency was not to be tough with his opponents, until they had made him suffer a big loss. So, in a way, the best place for Romney to be going into the first debate, based on his history, is in a losing position in the polls. I just hope it doesn't take losing the first debate for him to decide to make a "comeback" play. And he won't have Ron Paul to play tag-team with like they did against Santorum especially.

25 posted on 09/29/2012 8:41:17 PM PDT by JediJones (KARL ROVE: "And remember, this year, no one is seriously talking about ending abortion.")
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To: Longbow1969

maybe...i understand your point as i remember four years ago all the reports about the hillary voters who were going to vote against obama, which never materialized...that said i think this is different....Romney instills little enthusiasm in people but obama’s incompetence is going to make people vote against obama including the Repubs who did not vote or even voted for obozo four years ago as well as the independents...


40 posted on 09/29/2012 8:50:35 PM PDT by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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To: Longbow1969

No pollster is always accurate. I recall Ras was a darling around here during Bush vs. Gore and he was off by about 5% in that race.


45 posted on 09/29/2012 8:54:51 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Longbow1969
Folks on our side are now stuck disputing virtually ALL the polls.....yeah, were losing. We don't even have Rasmussen to hang our hat on now. This is worse than I even imagined.

That's just silly. Democrats have had an advantage in party ID for some time, as Rasmussen says in the article. That has nothing to do with enthusiasm or the rate at which voters head to the polls; it simply reflects self identification when pollsters ask.

52 posted on 09/29/2012 9:01:01 PM PDT by TonyInOhio (~ It-Is-Later-Than-You-Think ~)
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To: Longbow1969

Republican victories have never been delivered without votes from democrats. It’s just that many of those democrats are now called Independents.

I thought Rasmussen was saying this will break for Romney, if history is any judge, by a few more points.

THAT is all we need.


54 posted on 09/29/2012 9:06:36 PM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY)
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To: Longbow1969

Rant after Nov 6th.

I wear a kilt...not a skirt.


63 posted on 09/29/2012 9:11:46 PM PDT by Puckster
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To: Longbow1969

“So wait...Rasmussen, the most GOP friendly pollster out there, is also wrong?”

College football’s `Bowl Championship Series’ also has scientific credentials using research methodology recognized by political polling organizations.
Not surprisingly the Associated Pimps’ are also involved in both venues, providing their non-biased, impartial input. The BCS is a large pile of bovine excrement.

Saying, “They can’t all be wrong” begs the question. Assuming he isn’t found in bed with a live boy or dead girl, Romney wins hands down, tomorrow and in five weeks.
Don’t buy the BS. They’re all wrong.

When the dust settles we get to kiss fat sister Sue, rather than Aunt Doris with the running lip chancre. Yippee.


70 posted on 09/29/2012 9:27:02 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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To: Longbow1969
“For the last 20 years, between 37 and 39 percent of voters on Election Day have been Democrats,” says the pollster. “Republicans have ranged from 32 to 37 percent. Right now, our sample looks like 36 percent Republican versus 39 percent Democrat.”

How did we win any election in the last 20 years if the Democrats were always outvoting us?

79 posted on 09/29/2012 9:40:56 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: Longbow1969

Look at post # 7 with the detailed Rasmussen internals... Romney is winning independents by 5 points (43% Romney, 38% Obama)... Anyone who wins the independents by this margin on elections day is going to win the elections...


82 posted on 09/29/2012 9:42:50 PM PDT by Conservative12345
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To: Longbow1969

Well Rasmussen’s own Party Affiliation survey for August showed a +4.3% R gap, he never used his own data in his own normalization of the numbers.

In 2006 the dems had a big edge in party affiliation they expanded that gap by ~1.5% in the subsequent election.

In the 2010 midterm the gap in party affiliation was 1.3% R, what has happened to move the needle to the dems by 4%+ ?

Of course he has been getting hammered by Axelrod.

Interesting.


98 posted on 09/29/2012 9:58:12 PM PDT by Leto
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To: Longbow1969

I’ve been making that point for weeks now. It’s just the denial phase. I think next will be anger at Romney. Then acceptance we lost.


142 posted on 09/30/2012 5:15:21 AM PDT by paul544
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To: Longbow1969
Like it or not, there are now more parasites than producers. If the parasites vote, even once, the producers lose. 2010, for one reason or another, most of the parasites stayed home. The RINOs made sure that for the most part, no damage was done to the Socialists programs enacted in 2009 and 2010.

In 2012, look for a re-run of 2008 when the parasites, self hating Whites, American haters, brainwashed and stupid youths joined forces to send an imposter to the White House. Come November 2012, look for the same bunch, along with obama's vote counters to keep him there.

145 posted on 09/30/2012 5:59:46 AM PDT by sport
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To: Longbow1969

Good.

Let Obama/Soetoro have it.

There is NO WAY out of 16 Trillion in only the public debt! That and 150 TRILLION in unfunded mandates too!

Think of the passengers on the Titanic voting for a Captain, only difference is one wants to go full speed ahead and the other wants to drop it to half speed.

Obama/Soetoro will be know as the man who crashed the entire US economy and will probably either be arrested, flee offshore or become dictator and I say BRING IT ON!


149 posted on 09/30/2012 8:21:21 AM PDT by Para-Ord.45
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