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Another big Supreme Court term kicks off Monday
boston.com ^ | 9/29/12 | MARK SHERMAN/Associated Press

Posted on 09/30/2012 2:51:59 AM PDT by Evil Slayer

WASHINGTON (AP) — When last we saw the chief justice of the United States on the bench, John Roberts was joining with the Supreme Court’s liberals in an unlikely lineup that upheld President Barack Obama’s health care overhaul.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: affirmativeaction; gaymarriage; johnroberts; scotus; votingrights
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1 posted on 09/30/2012 2:52:05 AM PDT by Evil Slayer
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To: Evil Slayer
Judas Roberts - a man who changed his vote to betray 4 of the Conservative Justices on the Supreme Court (that is fact by the way, not myth) and also betrayed the Constitution and the American people.

I don't know what is wrong with man's character, but he is clearly a rotten vessel inside his soul.

I can only suspect, but I believe he has some very dark secrets that he was possibly blackmailed about. Probably a homosexual past, or even a homosexual present "lifestyle."

In any case, you cannot simply rebuild your reputation after what he did. He will be a traitor, a Judas, forever.

2 posted on 09/30/2012 3:14:43 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: Evil Slayer
Roberts is not a justice but an opportunist. He is more concerned about his legacy and how liberal portray him in the future. The constitution be damned! He is a ‘Benedict Arnold’ of the worse kind!
3 posted on 09/30/2012 3:20:43 AM PDT by rawhide
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To: Evil Slayer

We need to quit “putting our hopes in princes”. We know who we are and what America is about. A criminal gummint cannot change these things. For every act they take we can be ahead of them if we stick together and use our heads.


4 posted on 09/30/2012 3:29:09 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: SkyPilot

Roberts tried to be a Solomon, except he actually sliced the baby in half. Solomon cost Israel everything in the end because his absolute power corrupted him absolutely.


5 posted on 09/30/2012 3:34:45 AM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills and bo stinks)
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To: Evil Slayer

the new souter...


6 posted on 09/30/2012 3:36:34 AM PDT by JohnLongIsland
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To: Evil Slayer

One thought by libs is that Roberts voted lib on Obamacare because he thought an election could undo it, and now he had “cover” to go hard right on everything else. Just saying that is what they are saying.


7 posted on 09/30/2012 4:11:10 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually (Hendrix))
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To: JohnLongIsland

Yes, GHWB had his Souter, and GWB has his Roberts, and they all lived happily everafter.


8 posted on 09/30/2012 4:33:16 AM PDT by Theodore R. ( Who among us has not erred? Akin's the One!)
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To: LS

Nope, wrong analysis. That is nothing more than keeping up the pressure to make sure he keeps up with the 200% interest payments on his legacy for they will surely break his legacy knee-caps if he goes astray.

He gave them everything they needed to further chain him down on the plantation.


9 posted on 09/30/2012 4:36:58 AM PDT by mazda77 ("Defeating the Totalitarian Lie" By: Hilmar von Campe. Everybody should read it.)
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To: SkyPilot; Covenantor; MestaMachine; little jeremiah; miss marmelstein

Just posting the reminder that the fellow on the right [Lazarus] was Robert's "teaching" companion in Malta.

A little more from Memory Lane.

10 posted on 09/30/2012 4:45:54 AM PDT by Ezekiel (The Obama-nation began with the Inauguration of Desolation.)
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To: Ezekiel

Definitely seems to be some gayness there.


11 posted on 09/30/2012 5:11:53 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: Evil Slayer; All

People need to realize that anyone associated with the Bush Family...whether it is politicians they support or people they select...the choices will more than likely be LIBERALS

Ditto with John Roberts.


12 posted on 09/30/2012 5:58:32 AM PDT by SeminoleCounty (Political maturity is realizing that the "R" next to someone's name does not mean "conservative")
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To: Ezekiel
There's nothing ODD at all about Lazarus speaking on Supreme Court history if you look at his Harvard bio.

Does Mrs. Roberts and the kids have a say as to whether they will be dragged off to Malta or are they 'owned' by the Man of the Family in your world?

The Chief Justice and, his former college roommate, a Harvard professor speak at a legal conference! In Malta! SCANDAL!!

What is this obsession some have with seeing homosexual trysts and conspiracies around every corner? They should take stock of their own lives.

13 posted on 09/30/2012 6:08:22 AM PDT by newzjunkey (Osama's dead... and so is our ambassador - Coulter.)
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To: SkyPilot
I call them SCROTUS, now, not SCOTUS.

Because every ruling is like a kick in the sack.

14 posted on 09/30/2012 6:09:47 AM PDT by Lazamataz (The American news media, the 'Pravda Press', is fully Soviet-ized.)
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To: newzjunkey

I’ll never trust him again.


15 posted on 09/30/2012 6:11:12 AM PDT by flaglady47 (When the gov't fears the people, liberty; When the people fear the gov't, tyranny.)
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To: rawhide

You guys should actually read the ACA decision. I know it upheld the law and that really is a shame, but what he did to the power pf the Commerce Clause was stunning. He revived the Hammer case which struck down child labor laws. That is huge! He totally shrunk that government power to use down the road. That is a very good thing. Just read it.


16 posted on 09/30/2012 6:14:36 AM PDT by rudabaga
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To: newzjunkey
Does Mrs. Roberts and the kids have a say as to whether they will be dragged off to Malta or are they 'owned' by the Man of the Family in your world?

Try decaf. Or professional help.

17 posted on 09/30/2012 6:23:22 AM PDT by Ezekiel (The Obama-nation began with the Inauguration of Desolation.)
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To: SeminoleCounty

“People need to realize that anyone associated with the Bush Family...whether it is politicians they support or people they select...the choices will more than likely be LIBERALS”

IMHO, you are correct. They play super conservative until they are elected/appointed and then the real person comes out. The Bush’s are Oligarchs and care little about the Country. TOBNACOF. The old boy network always comes out first.


18 posted on 09/30/2012 6:45:55 AM PDT by A Strict Constructionist (We're an Oligrachy...Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Evil Slayer
Was Roberts another Ex Governor Sununu “recommended” appointee to Bush?

I'm curious.

19 posted on 09/30/2012 6:47:24 AM PDT by CapnJack
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To: Lazamataz

20 posted on 09/30/2012 7:22:42 AM PDT by Evil Slayer (Onward, Christian soldiers, marching as to war....)
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To: rudabaga
know it upheld the law and that really is a shame, but what he did to the power pf the Commerce Clause was stunning.

Not this garbage again.. Mark Levin and other Constitutional scholars have explained in great detail how this ruling DID absolutely nothing to the Commerce Clause.

He revived the Hammer case which struck down child labor laws. That is huge! He totally shrunk that government power to use down the road.

LOL. Shrink "any" government power???? Thanks for the laugh!!

You really believe any gutless RINO will every go along with rolling back child labor laws, or any law?

The cold reality is that the ONLY way the government will every be rolled back in any meaningful way is through a total economic collapse.

21 posted on 09/30/2012 8:52:10 AM PDT by sand88
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To: SkyPilot

22 posted on 09/30/2012 9:02:52 AM PDT by Flag_This (Real presidents don't bow.)
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To: Ezekiel

Why does the gaydar peg off the gauge?


23 posted on 09/30/2012 9:18:49 AM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: Ezekiel

Wheeee!

As I told Cov, I saw him in Port Clyde, ME in August. He was wearing all white and a little white hat. He also had a big black SUV and a bodyguard.


24 posted on 09/30/2012 10:49:59 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: SkyPilot

Oh good grief everything is a homosexual conspiracy to some folks here.


25 posted on 09/30/2012 11:14:51 AM PDT by chargers fan
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To: Evil Slayer

Wonderful. More “wisdom” from our Chief Justice.


26 posted on 09/30/2012 11:21:30 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Conservatism is not a matter of convenience.)
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To: Evil Slayer

God help us!

Wonder how many times Roberts will screw us this year!


27 posted on 09/30/2012 12:33:51 PM PDT by a real Sheila (RYAN/romney 2012)
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To: LS

I don’t buy that theory at all!
Why would any SANE person take that risk?
If I were a SCJ, I would wield my power and my “legacy” be damned. I would follow the constitution and do what was lawful and correct!


28 posted on 09/30/2012 12:38:05 PM PDT by a real Sheila (RYAN/romney 2012)
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To: LS

I don’t buy that theory at all!
Why would any SANE person take that risk?
If I were a SCJ, I would wield my power and my “legacy” be damned. I would follow the constitution and do what was constitutional and correct!


29 posted on 09/30/2012 12:38:23 PM PDT by a real Sheila (RYAN/romney 2012)
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To: Lazamataz

LOL!
You win!


30 posted on 09/30/2012 12:41:40 PM PDT by a real Sheila (RYAN/romney 2012)
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To: rawhide

Roberts does not deserve a pass in the least.

However, that said...the bill / law never should have existed in the first place to get before him to even have an opportunity to make this kind of a ruling. Pelosi, Reid, and Obama must be removed from power.


31 posted on 09/30/2012 1:16:24 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: chargers fan

Right...that photo just looks old to me...outdated hair styles, mustache, clothes...not seeing anything ‘gay’ about it.


32 posted on 09/30/2012 1:18:02 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: Lazamataz

SCROTUS - that’s a good one.


33 posted on 09/30/2012 1:21:59 PM PDT by Crucial (Tolerance at the expense of equal treatment is the path to tyranny.)
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To: a real Sheila

These are LIBS saying this, not me. Who says they are sane?


34 posted on 09/30/2012 1:24:57 PM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually (Hendrix))
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To: Evil Slayer

What is out there this year for Roberts to screw the American people with?


35 posted on 09/30/2012 2:16:06 PM PDT by RetiredArmy (The Scriptures clearly tell us we are in the last days, the end times. Christ is the only answer!)
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To: Evil Slayer

Great, which fundamental freedoms will be laid waste this term??


36 posted on 09/30/2012 2:28:41 PM PDT by mikrofon (The CONSTITUTION is Supreme, not some black-robed lawyers.)
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To: Evil Slayer

What critical to our rights and freedoms ruling is Felix gonna sell out on this time?


37 posted on 09/30/2012 2:37:06 PM PDT by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: sand88

Did you read it? And why are you putting the word any in quotes as though I said that? I didn’t say “any.” I said “that” power, meaning the Commerce Clause. Mark Levin is no constitutional scholar and he is wrong. It struck down any regulation under THAT power that tries to regulate intrastate commerce when the person/corp to be regulated is not already in the stream of commerce, reviving Hammer. You and Levin are wrong.


38 posted on 09/30/2012 2:45:08 PM PDT by rudabaga
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To: Republican Wildcat
Right...that photo just looks old to me...outdated hair styles, mustache, clothes...not seeing anything ‘gay’ about it.

One of the guys in the photo was identified by the NY Times as a big time gay activist. One of threads shortly after the ACA ruling had the information.

39 posted on 09/30/2012 3:01:23 PM PDT by sand88
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To: SkyPilot

Look, I don’t like it, but it happened. We need more conservatives on that court, and that won’t happen if obama wins. Enough of the Roberts stuff. Get over it.


40 posted on 09/30/2012 4:25:43 PM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: LS

Just read his darn opinion. He basically says so in it....that he did not feel it was his job to fix mistakes caused by voters being stupid.


41 posted on 09/30/2012 4:29:21 PM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: Theodore R.

He has been reliable on other cases. If you read the opinion, the only reason he voted to accept it was basically because he thought the court would have overreached to strike it, not that he thought it was good law.


42 posted on 09/30/2012 4:30:35 PM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: Evil Slayer; a fool in paradise

I’m looking forward to the championship games at the end of the term.


43 posted on 09/30/2012 4:31:03 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong!)
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To: Republican Wildcat
...that photo just looks old to me...

For one thing, it's rotated 180 degrees. Notice the table is set backwards - silverware and glasses on the wrong sides.

44 posted on 09/30/2012 4:48:24 PM PDT by kitchen (Over gunned is better than the alternative.)
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To: rudabaga
Mark Levin is no constitutional scholar and he is wrong.

I don't know you from Adam. Mark is indeed an expert on the Constitution. He and other experts have said this ruling has NO effect on the Commerce Clause. I will trust his word. It struck down any regulation under THAT power that tries to regulate intrastate commerce when the person/corp to be regulated is not already in the stream of commerce, reviving Hammer.

LOL. What a sentence. Spoken like a true academic legal eagle. What the heck does that have to do with any chance of rolling back Obamacare or other aspects of our Federal Imperial government. If you think some legal rulings in the future are going to roll even the tiniest aspect of government back, then I fear you will be disappointed.

Do you truly believe that some future argument based on what you stated or other such in the ruling will result in a flowering of Liberty with government bureaucracies being weakened?

Government at it's core is an instrument of force. The Federal bureaucracy over the decades has grown in power and scope that is far, far outside the bounds of the Constitution. The judiciary has become as corrupt as the other two branches.

The only thing that will realistically roll back government is a painful one -- a total financial collapse. I can't think of a government that has legislated or through court rulings every given up significant amounts of power.

45 posted on 09/30/2012 4:52:24 PM PDT by sand88
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To: sand88

Well said. Marcus Levinicus Magnus is a true Constitutional Scholar. Roberts made a purely political decision as did the other four blackrobed gods. We suffer from far too few judicial impeachments these past 225 years.


46 posted on 09/30/2012 5:36:42 PM PDT by Jacquerie (Exterminate rats.)
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To: sand88

Not sure why you think he is an expert since nothing in his background would suggest such. You are very angry and small minded and clearly not equipped to engage in discussion, only able to point to Levin as your source having done no research for yourself. But thankfully I am correct and you can enjoy sitting on your little perch praying for economic collapse. Good luck with that.


47 posted on 09/30/2012 8:50:57 PM PDT by rudabaga
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This ruling did nothing to reverse the expansion of Commerce Clause power under Wickard and Raich:

"Where necessary to make a regulation of interstate commerce effective, Congress may regulate even those intrastate activities that do not themselves substantially affect interstate commerce."

--Scalia concurring in Raich.

48 posted on 09/30/2012 9:07:45 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: rudabaga
Re Mark Levin...

Beginning in 1981, Levin served as advisor to several members of President Ronald Reagan's cabinet, eventually becoming Associate Director of Presidential Personnel and ultimately Chief of Staff to Attorney General Edwin Meese; Levin also served as Deputy Assistant Secretary for Elementary and Secondary Education at the U.S. Department of Education, and Deputy Solicitor of the U.S. Department of the Interior.

He practiced law in the private sector and is president of Landmark Legal Foundation, a public interest law firm founded in 1976 and based in Leesburg, Virginia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Levin

49 posted on 09/30/2012 10:10:26 PM PDT by Ken H
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Not sure why you think he is an expert since nothing in his background would suggest such.

Apparently we are talking about two different people. Mark Levin is a recognized by many to be an expert. His background has shown him to be an expert.

Most who impugn Mark's reputation are usually: leftists; arrogant, 20 something, Ivy educated elitists who think they know everything yet have accomplished very little life; and and most in the MSM.

You are very angry and small minded and clearly not equipped to engage in discussion, only able to point to Levin as your source having done no research for yourself.

Angry? LOL. I can assure you am not angry. I have a very good life and am personally very happy. Yes I worry very much about my Republic, but I don't let that concern eat at me.

But thankfully I am correct

Again, you stated some seemingly obscure point that will have NO affect on anything that will change the trajectory of the power and scope of government. Now, if you live in the world of intellectual pontification you may believe you are correct and that is fine.

and you can enjoy sitting on your little perch praying for economic collapse. Good luck with that.

Praying for economic collapse?? Wow you need to tune your comprehension skills. Just because I stated that I believe the only true way to significantly roll back government power is through a total collapse does not in any way indicate that I wish for such to occur.

I am an Engineer by training and Economics and History are my other passion. Looking into the future and using history as a guide, it seems that the scenario that presents the greatest probability of effecting the change needed to truly bring our Republic back towards Liberty is a major "reset" event.

Looking forward 10-30 years there is an increasing chance that one of the following will occur: internal revolution, civil war, or economic collapse (Federal government becoming insolvent). The first two are much less likely to happen.

Personally, I think we will continue on the road to increasing government power at all levels. The inertia of bigger and bigger government is almost unstoppable. Those who make the laws and regulations cannot stop what they do -- it is in their nature to desire more and more power over others.

Jefferson seems to be on the money when he stated, The natural progress of things is for liberty to yield and government to gain ground.

I cannot think of a government that has legislated itself to having less and less power.

Have a good night.

50 posted on 09/30/2012 10:52:56 PM PDT by sand88
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