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Another big Supreme Court term kicks off Monday
boston.com ^ | 9/29/12 | MARK SHERMAN/Associated Press

Posted on 09/30/2012 2:51:59 AM PDT by Evil Slayer

WASHINGTON (AP) — When last we saw the chief justice of the United States on the bench, John Roberts was joining with the Supreme Court’s liberals in an unlikely lineup that upheld President Barack Obama’s health care overhaul.

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To: LS

Just read his darn opinion. He basically says so in it....that he did not feel it was his job to fix mistakes caused by voters being stupid.


41 posted on 09/30/2012 4:29:21 PM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: Theodore R.

He has been reliable on other cases. If you read the opinion, the only reason he voted to accept it was basically because he thought the court would have overreached to strike it, not that he thought it was good law.


42 posted on 09/30/2012 4:30:35 PM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: Evil Slayer; a fool in paradise

I’m looking forward to the championship games at the end of the term.


43 posted on 09/30/2012 4:31:03 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong!)
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To: Republican Wildcat
...that photo just looks old to me...

For one thing, it's rotated 180 degrees. Notice the table is set backwards - silverware and glasses on the wrong sides.

44 posted on 09/30/2012 4:48:24 PM PDT by kitchen (Over gunned is better than the alternative.)
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To: rudabaga
Mark Levin is no constitutional scholar and he is wrong.

I don't know you from Adam. Mark is indeed an expert on the Constitution. He and other experts have said this ruling has NO effect on the Commerce Clause. I will trust his word. It struck down any regulation under THAT power that tries to regulate intrastate commerce when the person/corp to be regulated is not already in the stream of commerce, reviving Hammer.

LOL. What a sentence. Spoken like a true academic legal eagle. What the heck does that have to do with any chance of rolling back Obamacare or other aspects of our Federal Imperial government. If you think some legal rulings in the future are going to roll even the tiniest aspect of government back, then I fear you will be disappointed.

Do you truly believe that some future argument based on what you stated or other such in the ruling will result in a flowering of Liberty with government bureaucracies being weakened?

Government at it's core is an instrument of force. The Federal bureaucracy over the decades has grown in power and scope that is far, far outside the bounds of the Constitution. The judiciary has become as corrupt as the other two branches.

The only thing that will realistically roll back government is a painful one -- a total financial collapse. I can't think of a government that has legislated or through court rulings every given up significant amounts of power.

45 posted on 09/30/2012 4:52:24 PM PDT by sand88
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To: sand88

Well said. Marcus Levinicus Magnus is a true Constitutional Scholar. Roberts made a purely political decision as did the other four blackrobed gods. We suffer from far too few judicial impeachments these past 225 years.


46 posted on 09/30/2012 5:36:42 PM PDT by Jacquerie (Exterminate rats.)
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To: sand88

Not sure why you think he is an expert since nothing in his background would suggest such. You are very angry and small minded and clearly not equipped to engage in discussion, only able to point to Levin as your source having done no research for yourself. But thankfully I am correct and you can enjoy sitting on your little perch praying for economic collapse. Good luck with that.


47 posted on 09/30/2012 8:50:57 PM PDT by rudabaga
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To: rudabaga; sand88
This ruling did nothing to reverse the expansion of Commerce Clause power under Wickard and Raich:

"Where necessary to make a regulation of interstate commerce effective, Congress may regulate even those intrastate activities that do not themselves substantially affect interstate commerce."

--Scalia concurring in Raich.

48 posted on 09/30/2012 9:07:45 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: rudabaga
Re Mark Levin...

Beginning in 1981, Levin served as advisor to several members of President Ronald Reagan's cabinet, eventually becoming Associate Director of Presidential Personnel and ultimately Chief of Staff to Attorney General Edwin Meese; Levin also served as Deputy Assistant Secretary for Elementary and Secondary Education at the U.S. Department of Education, and Deputy Solicitor of the U.S. Department of the Interior.

He practiced law in the private sector and is president of Landmark Legal Foundation, a public interest law firm founded in 1976 and based in Leesburg, Virginia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Levin

49 posted on 09/30/2012 10:10:26 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: rudabaga
Not sure why you think he is an expert since nothing in his background would suggest such.

Apparently we are talking about two different people. Mark Levin is a recognized by many to be an expert. His background has shown him to be an expert.

Most who impugn Mark's reputation are usually: leftists; arrogant, 20 something, Ivy educated elitists who think they know everything yet have accomplished very little life; and and most in the MSM.

You are very angry and small minded and clearly not equipped to engage in discussion, only able to point to Levin as your source having done no research for yourself.

Angry? LOL. I can assure you am not angry. I have a very good life and am personally very happy. Yes I worry very much about my Republic, but I don't let that concern eat at me.

But thankfully I am correct

Again, you stated some seemingly obscure point that will have NO affect on anything that will change the trajectory of the power and scope of government. Now, if you live in the world of intellectual pontification you may believe you are correct and that is fine.

and you can enjoy sitting on your little perch praying for economic collapse. Good luck with that.

Praying for economic collapse?? Wow you need to tune your comprehension skills. Just because I stated that I believe the only true way to significantly roll back government power is through a total collapse does not in any way indicate that I wish for such to occur.

I am an Engineer by training and Economics and History are my other passion. Looking into the future and using history as a guide, it seems that the scenario that presents the greatest probability of effecting the change needed to truly bring our Republic back towards Liberty is a major "reset" event.

Looking forward 10-30 years there is an increasing chance that one of the following will occur: internal revolution, civil war, or economic collapse (Federal government becoming insolvent). The first two are much less likely to happen.

Personally, I think we will continue on the road to increasing government power at all levels. The inertia of bigger and bigger government is almost unstoppable. Those who make the laws and regulations cannot stop what they do -- it is in their nature to desire more and more power over others.

Jefferson seems to be on the money when he stated, The natural progress of things is for liberty to yield and government to gain ground.

I cannot think of a government that has legislated itself to having less and less power.

Have a good night.

50 posted on 09/30/2012 10:52:56 PM PDT by sand88
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To: rwfromkansas
He has been reliable on other cases.

Like the Arizona case, right?

He is a traitor.

Get over it.

51 posted on 10/01/2012 3:28:58 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: LS

One thought by libs is that Roberts voted lib on Obamacare because he thought an election could undo it, and now he had “cover” to go hard right on everything else. Just saying that is what they are saying.

If the US Constitution isn’t enough cover for him, he shouldn’t be on the court.


52 posted on 10/01/2012 4:07:18 AM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: freedomfiter2

Totally agree. It IS the Court’s job to save us from ourselves if something unconstitutional comes before it.


53 posted on 10/01/2012 4:11:21 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually (Hendrix))
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To: rawhide
Roberts is not a justice but an opportunist. He is more concerned about his legacy and how liberal portray him in the future. The constitution be damned! He is a ‘Benedict Arnold’ of the worse kind!

No, he's worse than Benedict Arnold; at least Arnold was a legitimate war-hero before his betrayal. What has Roberts done?

54 posted on 10/01/2012 7:15:41 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Lazamataz
I call them SCROTUS, now, not SCOTUS.
Because every ruling is like a kick in the sack.

Ouch; and yet very apt.
Though I was surprised when one of the Obama appointees [Sotomayer, IIRC] correctly dissented a 4th Amendment case for the right reasons. {The case involved police busting down the door [violating 4th Amd] due to the "exigent circumstances" of hearing the toilet flush.}

55 posted on 10/01/2012 7:20:27 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: rudabaga
You guys should actually read the ACA decision. I know it upheld the law and that really is a shame, but what he did to the power pf the Commerce Clause was stunning. He revived the Hammer case which struck down child labor laws. That is huge! He totally shrunk that government power to use down the road. That is a very good thing. Just read it.

I did read the decision, or at least most of it. And no, it did not reduce the Commerce clause; completely apart from the fact that the text of the decision is non-binding and so even if he explicitly said "the commerce clause cannot be used to regulate interstate trade to any degree exceeding that applied to international commerce" there would be nothing from it.

56 posted on 10/01/2012 7:23:54 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Revolting cat!

“USA! USA! USA!”


57 posted on 10/01/2012 7:58:00 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Obama likes to claim credit for getting Osama. Why hasn't he tried Khalid Sheikh Mohammed yet?)
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