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Mass Lawyers Weekly readers want investigation of Elizabeth Warren license problem
Legal Insurrection ^ | 9/28/12 | William A. Jacobson

Posted on 09/30/2012 5:37:25 AM PDT by Libloather

Mass Lawyers Weekly readers want investigation of Elizabeth Warren license problem
Posted by William A. Jacobson
Friday, September 28, 2012 at 7:42pm

Mass Lawyers Weekly ran a reader poll today regarding the following question:

Should U.S. Senate candidate Elizabeth Warren be investigated for possibly practicing law without a license?

I heard about the poll in an email just after 1:30 p.m. today. I did not publicize the poll because while online polls are not scientific, I also didn’t want someone to say that the results were skewed by me publicizing the poll.

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KEYWORDS: boardabdication; brown; dncrico; fraud; legalresumefraud; license; massachusetts; nocodeofethics; nolaw; nolicense; resumefraud; warren
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1 posted on 09/30/2012 5:37:33 AM PDT by Libloather
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To: Libloather

It seems obvious to this Massachusetts observer that there IS a clear issue here, but it will not see the light of day in any substantial form.

If asked, she will say there was no problem, and the media will declare the issue a non-issue, and the lemmings whose votes will count in the election will shrug their shoulders and say “I guess there is no issue there...”


2 posted on 09/30/2012 5:43:15 AM PDT by rlmorel ("It is dangerous to be right in matters where established men are wrong." Voltaire)
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To: rlmorel
Imagine that it was the Republican practicing law without a licence. You would never hear the end of it.

Can we say BIASED!

3 posted on 09/30/2012 5:55:25 AM PDT by sr4402
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To: Libloather
Results as of 7:05 pm, Friday, September 28, 2012:



4 posted on 09/30/2012 5:56:14 AM PDT by upchuck (I miss my dog Snoopy. May 16, 1997-September 24, 2012 -- 15 years, 4 months. Forever in my heart.)
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To: Libloather; 2ndDivisionVet; A knight without armor; Alexander Rubin; all the best; AmericaUnite; ...
Link is in #1. 87% yes as of now.

FREEP THIS POLL ***PING!*** FRmail me if you want to be added or removed from the Fearless Poll-Freeping Freepers Ping list. And be sure to ping me to any polls that need Freepin', if I miss them. (looks like a medium volume list) (gordongekko909, founder of the pinglist, stays on the list until his ghost signs up for the list)

5 posted on 09/30/2012 5:58:09 AM PDT by dynachrome ("Our forefathers didn't bury their guns. They buried those that tried to take them.")
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To: sr4402

Biased MEDIA?

You mean co-conspirators, criminals, traitors just like the leadership in the Demo Party.

Warren is a felon. You or I would likely loose our law license if we made that “mistake.”


6 posted on 09/30/2012 5:58:46 AM PDT by politicianslie (Obama: Our first Muslim PRESIDENT,destroying America $1 Trillion at a time! And America sleeps)
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To: Libloather
The Senior Senator from Chappaquiddick was reelected something like six times after having killed one of his young pieces of strumpet.Practicing law without a license? In most places,big problem.In the Gay State,piece of...cake.
7 posted on 09/30/2012 6:09:24 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Ambassador Stevens Is Dead And The Chevy Volt Is Alive!)
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To: politicianslie

Remember: Coakley is prosecuting Cahill for misusing the Lottery advertisements to promote his candidacy for governor. Warren, otoh, will get a pass, at least through November.

Lawyers are Democrats (bit “D”) because they like big government which means more work for lawyers.


8 posted on 09/30/2012 6:10:49 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Kafka in the throes of a demonic possession could not have come up with the "tuck rule".)
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To: Gay State Conservative

No kidding !
After what Ted got away with, this charge is a laugher.


9 posted on 09/30/2012 6:11:28 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (In the game of life, there are no betting limits)
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To: rlmorel
...the lemmings whose votes will count in the election will shrug their shoulders and say “I guess there is no issue there...”

Most lemmings don't know what an "issue" is.

10 posted on 09/30/2012 6:13:22 AM PDT by immadashell
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To: Libloather

The saddest part is that despite Warren’s lies, she is leading Brown by 5% according to a Boston Globe poll released today. I wish the message about her dishonesty could be spread more and faster. Voters are uneducated. http://www.boston.com/news/politics/2012/09/29/elizabeth-warren-appears-inch-ahead-scott-brown-new-globe-poll/4u10XRyC5PmIPCkKsutsnN/story.html


11 posted on 09/30/2012 6:30:06 AM PDT by Ernestwashington
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To: upchuck

the reason this is not being investigated is because it is STUPID. No I do not like Warren or her false claims of being aborigine but clearly she had a law license somewhere. The deal with the various state bars requiring licenses is similar to requiring different driver’s licenses state to state—oh no, you ain’t driving in Mass with a New Jersey license, you need a Mass license—dumb, stupid, that is why lawyers aren’t really that concerned, only the ones that think like New York cab drivers-—eh, you ain’t got a cab driving medallion, you ain’t driving a cab.


12 posted on 09/30/2012 6:55:34 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Gay State Conservative

nope nope


13 posted on 09/30/2012 6:56:29 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: rlmorel

Don’t talk about it... DO It!!!


14 posted on 09/30/2012 7:02:00 AM PDT by CPT Clay (Follow me on Twitter @Clay N TX)
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To: Libloather

Well, if Warren gets away with it, it just means that you don’t need a license to practice law in Massachusetts. It’s not like lawyers are prudish about it, as long as you can stand in front of a judge and say things in Latin. /sarc

Just get a law degree over the Internet at the same time you get your Medical and Bartending degrees from the University of Aruba, then get admitted to Harvard Law by claiming in writing to be a handicapped, half Zimbabwean and half Poohawk Indian, albino lesbian Maoist communist Wahhabi Muslim. Which is why you can never been seen in public, because of all the assassins from INTERPOL, UNICEF, and Greenpeace.

Anyway, despite their desperate pleas, drop out after a week because they are “Colonialist Zionist Capitalist Oppressors”. They will mail your graduation diploma to your P.O. Box, with an offer of a full professorship, and list you as a faculty member no matter what you do.


15 posted on 09/30/2012 7:04:48 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (DIY Bumper Sticker: "THREE TIMES,/ DEMOCRATS/ REJECTED GOD")
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To: sr4402

LOL, just amazing we even still frame things that way, even pointing out bias...it is almost the same as saying “humans die if deprived of oxygen” or “the sky is blue”.


16 posted on 09/30/2012 7:08:22 AM PDT by rlmorel ("It is dangerous to be right in matters where established men are wrong." Voltaire)
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To: Libloather

Isn’t practicing law without a license a crime?


17 posted on 09/30/2012 7:15:14 AM PDT by The Great RJ
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
"...It’s not like lawyers are prudish about it, as long as you can stand in front of a judge and say things in Latin..."

Hahahahahahaha!

Planto vestri own licentia, meditor lex per impunity.

See? We can all do it now!

18 posted on 09/30/2012 7:16:23 AM PDT by rlmorel ("It is dangerous to be right in matters where established men are wrong." Voltaire)
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To: Libloather
She doesn't need no stinking license. She just a working class American Indian trying to catch a break in a rigged system with all the odds against her.
19 posted on 09/30/2012 7:17:04 AM PDT by JIM O
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To: yldstrk
Go try to carry concealed in MA in if you have a concealed license from any other state. When you are telling them how stupid the law is they will be sending you to jail.

Don't get me wrong, I agree with your characterization of the licensing practice as pure BS (for concealed carry and law licenses) but it is the law.

20 posted on 09/30/2012 7:18:41 AM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

This is indicative of a far, far deeper issue, and is more representative of the exact type of corrosion liberalism poses to the fabric of this country, especially what we have seen in the last four years.

What happened when the bailouts took place, legal contracts were just tossed aside, especially for the prime investors of GM and Chrysler. The message to anyone who signs a contract was: Your signature on a contract means nothing, unless the government decides in that particular instance that it does.

Here, if everyone looks the other way (as it appears will happen) the message is “You cannot practice law without a license in a given environment unless the situation, which can change at the whim of the government at any time, allows it.”


21 posted on 09/30/2012 7:22:45 AM PDT by rlmorel ("It is dangerous to be right in matters where established men are wrong." Voltaire)
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To: Libloather

I went fishing in Massachusetts. A game warden asked to see my fishing license. It was from Texas. He gave me a $100 fine for not having a Massachusetts license. Fish are more important then lawyers in Massachusetts.


22 posted on 09/30/2012 7:22:49 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: blueunicorn6
"...Fish are more important then lawyers in Massachusetts..."

Come now. Being from Texas, I would expect you to understand that there are many places where fish are FAR more important than Lawyers, and that is as it should be...:)

(With my humble apologies to any Freepers practicing honest law out there!)

23 posted on 09/30/2012 7:25:53 AM PDT by rlmorel ("It is dangerous to be right in matters where established men are wrong." Voltaire)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

This does kinda open up the front door and ask the question if anyone really needs a license to practice law. We might as well call it the “Warren door”. We could get rid of law school and all the rest of these fancy school shops, and just let regular people shuffle through the court system.


24 posted on 09/30/2012 7:28:46 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: Durus

It isn’t just Massachusetts, though, that has that approach to conceal carry.

THAT is a travesty, though. They make conceal carry so damn difficult that many people who are licensed to do so, don’t. (As they obviously intend)

Sure I can carry. But I can’t go here with it. I can’t go there with it. It is almost as if there should be an iPhone app tied into a huge, constantly changing database to warn you based on your satellite location or something.

Or something. People should be able to carry openly, everywhere, in every state, period.


25 posted on 09/30/2012 7:29:59 AM PDT by rlmorel ("It is dangerous to be right in matters where established men are wrong." Voltaire)
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To: Gay State Conservative
How did Mass come to be called the “gay state”?

I always refer to folks from Mass as Massholes, to their faces, all except you of course. :)

26 posted on 09/30/2012 7:30:27 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: JIM O

Bigot! Racist!


27 posted on 09/30/2012 7:32:46 AM PDT by rlmorel ("It is dangerous to be right in matters where established men are wrong." Voltaire)
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To: yldstrk

The reason why this is so important is because the Bar of a State does not have jurisdiction over a non-member like they do over a member. When a lawyer has a law license in another State and that person wants to talk to a judge in a State in which they are not licensed, they must have a Lawyer in their State vouch for them and, in fact, be responsibile for them. Its called pro hoc viche:

(http://www.mass.gov/courts/sjc/pro-hac-vice.html).

Further, the Massachussetts Legislature has codified its rule on this:

http://www.malegislature.gov/Laws/GeneralLaws/PartIII/TitleI/Chapter221/Section46a


28 posted on 09/30/2012 7:33:51 AM PDT by svxdave (Life is too short to wear a fake Rolex.)
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To: Ditter

Probably had something to do with the state’s refusal to allow a ballot amendment against homosexual marriage to be on the ballot, even though it had the requisite number of signatures and was in on time.

This they did on technicality and political hatchet work.


29 posted on 09/30/2012 7:39:40 AM PDT by rlmorel ("It is dangerous to be right in matters where established men are wrong." Voltaire)
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To: Libloather

Not all of us in Massachusetts are lemmings, if you please.

Too many are, but many are not.


30 posted on 09/30/2012 8:12:17 AM PDT by DNME (Something wicked this way comes ... before the election. Finish your preps.)
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To: rlmorel

I believe the old saying in Texas is.....

“Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day.
Teach a man to fish, and his lawn will never get mowed because he’s out fishing all the time.”


31 posted on 09/30/2012 8:18:45 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: sr4402

She don’t need no stinkin license. She’s one of the liberal, democrat, elites and can do what she wants. Licenses,rules, laws and regulations are for the common folk and Conservatives.


32 posted on 09/30/2012 9:01:49 AM PDT by duffee (Romney 2012, NEWT 2016)
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To: yldstrk

No. There is a reason why you need a license from the state you are practicing in. Each of the states has their own laws. Thus, the Attorney needs to prove competent knowledge of the laws specific to the state they are practicing in via passing that state’s bar exam.

There are two parts to passing a states bar exam. One part is general law that covers the legal concepts common to all states. The second part is an exam devoted to the specific state an Attorney wishes to practice in.


33 posted on 09/30/2012 9:19:00 AM PDT by FMBass ("Now that I'm sober I watch a lot of news"- Garofalo from Coulter's "Treason")
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To: rlmorel

Te audire no possum. Musa sapientum fixa est in aure.


34 posted on 09/30/2012 10:52:57 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (DIY Bumper Sticker: "THREE TIMES,/ DEMOCRATS/ REJECTED GOD")
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To: Ditter
How did Mass come to be called the “gay state”?

Check my profile for a brief explanation.I lifted the term from Howie Carr,a local Boston talk host and columnist who's outstanding...and very funny.

35 posted on 09/30/2012 11:12:23 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Ambassador Stevens Is Dead And The Chevy Volt Is Alive!)
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To: yldstrk
nope nope

I assume by that you mean that there's no way Liawatha can win.The only way I can respond is to ask: have you ever been to Massachusetts?

36 posted on 09/30/2012 11:17:43 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Ambassador Stevens Is Dead And The Chevy Volt Is Alive!)
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To: FMBass

The Massachusetts Bar sometimes “waives in” lawyers licensed in other states. Harvard faculty might be extended that courtesy. Let’s avoid “Fire, Ready, Aim.”


37 posted on 09/30/2012 11:28:12 AM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: Ernestwashington

Boston Globe poll? .......Please.


38 posted on 09/30/2012 11:32:35 AM PDT by Radix ("..Democrats are holding a meeting today to decide whether to overturn the results of the election.")
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To: Ernestwashington

Boston Globe poll? .......Please.


39 posted on 09/30/2012 11:32:44 AM PDT by Radix ("..Democrats are holding a meeting today to decide whether to overturn the results of the election.")
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To: FMBass

“No. There is a reason why you need a license from the state you are practicing in. Each of the states has their own laws. Thus, the Attorney needs to prove competent knowledge of the laws specific to the state they are practicing in via passing that state’s bar exam.”

nope. nope. Attorney needs to show s/he can remember 1500 stupid little rules at the same time on one particular day. After that, the laws change constantly and have to be looked at every time.

“There are two parts to passing a states bar exam. One part is general law that covers the legal concepts common to all states. The second part is an exam devoted to the specific state an Attorney wishes to practice in.”

Yep true, at the moment, but did you know there is a move afoot to have a universal bar exam???????????


40 posted on 09/30/2012 11:36:16 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: svxdave

yeah that is a fair point. It is being admitted to the bar pro hac vice and generally you do it only when you will be in court and also you have to associate with local counsel


41 posted on 09/30/2012 11:38:51 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: mvpel

If she was waived in, she does have a license in Mass


42 posted on 09/30/2012 11:40:27 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Radix

Remember the Glob had Marsha winning.


43 posted on 09/30/2012 11:43:41 AM PDT by Little Bill
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Hey! We write in American around here! I don’t care about your possum’s septum, so save that fancy French talk for the restaurant!


44 posted on 09/30/2012 11:46:22 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: yldstrk

If you get waived in, do you get issued a MA license rather than just practicing under your existing license?


45 posted on 09/30/2012 12:54:01 PM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: mvpel

yes, here anyway, you get “waived in” after you apply by completing an 80 page application and signing it in blood, sweat and tears, then you get issued a license IN ADDITION to your current state license and then you get the privilege of paying through the nose to get “waived in” like 12 to 15 hundred, and TO TOP IT ALL OFF, you get to comply with the new state’s continuing legal education requirements which also cost money and paperwork annually. It’s a joy.


46 posted on 09/30/2012 1:25:21 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: mvpel

My comment was answering the question of why there was a need to pass the bar for a particular state, nothing else.

Therefore, your “Fire, Ready, Aim.” comment was not unnecessary.


47 posted on 09/30/2012 1:32:28 PM PDT by FMBass ("Now that I'm sober I watch a lot of news"- Garofalo from Coulter's "Treason")
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To: yldstrk

“nope. nope. Attorney needs to show s/he can remember 1500 stupid little rules at the same time on one particular day. After that, the laws change constantly and have to be looked at every time.”

Yep, yep, yep, an “Attorney needs to show s/he can remember 1500 stupid little rules at the same time on one particular day.” FOR THAT STATE. And once admitted to the bar to keep abreast of changing laws.

“Yep true, at the moment, but did you know there is a move afoot to have a universal bar exam???????????”

Yes, but that “move afoot”, is not the current law of the land, NOW, is it?


48 posted on 09/30/2012 1:35:22 PM PDT by FMBass ("Now that I'm sober I watch a lot of news"- Garofalo from Coulter's "Treason")
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To: Libloather

It’s not hard to prove who you are are or what you are allowed to do by law. We seem to have a number of Democrats with that problem.


49 posted on 09/30/2012 1:38:19 PM PDT by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/?)
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To: FMBass

ok bro have it your way
I suppose attorneys can’t read the law of the other state? well guess what, they do, each and every day. With corporations having multiple presences in multiple states, but hey, I really don’t care if you see it my way. Nonethless, various state licenses to practice law have a whole lot more to do with “protecting one’s job” just like a union than a lawyer’s fitness to practice in the state.

So, if you want me to say “why yes, I have seen the light and you are so right and I am wrong” there, I said it, but I don’t mean it. Are you happy now?


50 posted on 09/30/2012 1:43:29 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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