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US and Afghan forces clash, leaving 5 dead
AP ^ | September 30,2012 | HEIDI VOGT and RAHIM FAIEZ

Posted on 09/30/2012 9:30:35 AM PDT by yoe

KABUL, Afghanistan (AP) -- A firefight broke out between U.S. forces and their Afghan army allies in eastern Afghanistan Sunday, killing two Americans and three Afghan soldiers and pushing the number of U.S. troops killed in the long-running war 2,000.

The fighting started Saturday when what is believed to have been a mortar fired by insurgents struck a checkpoint set up by U.S. forces in Wardak province, said Shahidullah Shahid, a provincial government spokesman. He said the Americans thought they were under attack from a nearby Afghan army checkpoint and fired on it, prompting the Afghan soldiers to return fire.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: afghanwar
Obama's war without any anti-war protesters.....where are those voices who turned Vietnam upside down in the media and under President Bush...where are they?

This is what happens when you have traitors in your midst - at home and abroad.

1 posted on 09/30/2012 9:30:37 AM PDT by yoe
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To: yoe

This Afgan war reminds me of Vietnam! Corrupt “friendly” governments, friendly troops who won’t fight, our guys getting shot by friendlies.

GET OUT DOWN! Our soldiers shouldn’t have paid the price they did in ‘Nam, nor should they in ‘Gan!


2 posted on 09/30/2012 9:34:34 AM PDT by jayrunner
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To: yoe

These savages aren’t worth a single additional drop of American blood or nickel of American treasure. It’s time to pull out and turn that 7th century **** hole into glass from border to border.


3 posted on 09/30/2012 9:35:12 AM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: yoe
Four Trillion dollars peed away in muslim countries over the last 45 years and this is the height of the improvement we get:

And our arrogant politicians are still giving muslims billions and billions of borrowed dollars!


4 posted on 09/30/2012 9:44:15 AM PDT by Iron Munro (US Embassies Come and Go But An Obama Apology Lasts Forever)
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To: jayrunner

What the heck does “GET OUT DOWN” mean?


5 posted on 09/30/2012 9:44:44 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: yoe
This is what happens when you have traitors in your midst - at home and abroad.

And traitors running the MSM media.

6 posted on 09/30/2012 9:47:11 AM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: piasa

good question...


7 posted on 09/30/2012 9:47:19 AM PDT by brivette
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To: yoe

And to what end have so many Americans died in that land?


8 posted on 09/30/2012 9:53:11 AM PDT by Ed Story
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To: Iron Munro

That is a joke. There is no RepublicanRevolution that I can see.

This seems more like it, The nationwide Stockholm Syndrome:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2938287/posts

Nothing will happen, nothing will change. We have come to know that we are each alone. There is no revolution. We are paralyzed. We are ignored but left and right both.

How does one start a revolution? It does not look like we have found a way that is successful.


9 posted on 09/30/2012 10:02:49 AM PDT by Sequoyah101
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To: Sequoyah101
How does one start a revolution?

Take American Idol off the air ?

10 posted on 09/30/2012 10:12:26 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 ( If you think I'm crazy, just wait until you talk to my invisible friend.)
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To: All

Drop pamphlets! Tell Women and children 72 hrs to leave!
Through check points! No weapons! All males detained!
After 72 hrs B-2’s will carpet bomb until they cry Please Stop!
At the same time Troop withdrawal will begin, All Financial
Aid withdrawn! No travel from Afghanistan or Pok e stan To US!
You cannot give Freedom to a Nation that does not want it!


11 posted on 09/30/2012 10:17:46 AM PDT by Conserev1
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To: UCANSEE2

“How does one start a revolution?”

Stop issuing Obamaphones.


12 posted on 09/30/2012 10:24:03 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Record high turnout is our hope for sending 0bama home. Pray hard!!!)
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To: yoe
Things are going good there. We're finally coming around to realizing that everyone there is the enemy! /s

Now where's that drone strike on Karzai?

13 posted on 09/30/2012 10:37:10 AM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: Sequoyah101
Republican revolution? Ha. Here is an excerpt from Rush Limbaugh's interview with Mia Love:

" In May of 2011, I was at a little dinner party in Washington. I don't want to mention any names, but a prominent republican freshman of the 2010 class, a fired-up tea party guy, had just come from a vote....He said he had just been read the riot act by Pete Sessions, who said " I know you guys came here thinking you're going to change the way things work, but if you don't vote the way Boehner and the leadership want you to vote, you're a one termer here. We're not going to help you get re-elected."

The "bipartisan" Ruling Class remains firmly in control.

14 posted on 09/30/2012 10:48:05 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: yoe

100% OBAMA APPROVED


15 posted on 09/30/2012 11:27:20 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: UCANSEE2

Well, removing mind altering drugs from the sheeple might be a good start. Good luck on that one as well. The lame stream media is like crack to the proletariat.


16 posted on 09/30/2012 12:49:04 PM PDT by Sequoyah101
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To: hinckley buzzard

Washington is like the board room of many corporations... you either go along to get along or you don’t get in or you don’t stay in. The deal is too good to pass up for most people who get in that are not already corrupted and they don’t want anyone to stay in who may queer the deal.

Mr. Smith got smashed when he went to Washington. The ending is a true fairy tale though because nothing good ever happens in the end in Washington or anywhere else in politics for that matter. There is money for the greedy, power for the evil and approbation for the insecure in politics. The scene has not changed since this classic movie was made in 1939, only the players have changed and the technology. We still have the same corrupt and corruptible small minded evil people dominating politics. Real, useful, wholesome people do not generally seek such a foul path unless, in a weak moment of idealism think they can change things for the good. Politics is largely populated by those of our society who are of the lowest character but too cowardly to be honest crooks.

If politicians were properly schooled in the use of firearms they might be able to do the right thing as Senator Paine, a villain in the movie, tried to do and failed. Frankly though I doubt any politicians still have the honor and integrity left to feel shame as Senator Paine did in the movie.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mr._Smith_Goes_to_Washington

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HX8aFpnWxPA&feature=related

There was an element of political correctness then as well. You must not say anything unflattering about he politicians. We continue to allow people we have selected from our own ranks to live as elites, as minor gods who are set upon pedestals and can’t be attacked for their weaknesses, mistakes and outright corruption. Who sets them up to that... they don’t discourage it do they?

In January 1938, both Paramount Pictures and MGM had submitted Foster’s story to the censors at the Hays Office, probably indicating that both studios had interest in the project before Columbia purchased it. Joseph Breen, the head of that office, warned the studios: “[W]e would urge most earnestly that you take serious counsel before embarking on the production of any motion picture based on this story. It looks to us like one that might well be loaded with dynamite, both for the motion picture industry, and for the country at large.” Breen specifically objected to “the generally unflattering portrayal of our system of Government, which might well lead to such a picture being considered, both here, and more particularly abroad, as a covert attack on the Democratic form of government.” and warned that the film should make clear that”the Senate is made up of a group of fine, upstanding citizens, who labor long and tirelessly for the best interests of the nation...”


17 posted on 09/30/2012 1:15:26 PM PDT by Sequoyah101
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To: Conserev1

Muslims need to be controlled. That’s why muslim countries need dictators. Freedom does not work for muslims.


18 posted on 09/30/2012 1:46:40 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: Sequoyah101
That is very interesting (about the movie). I guess it is true that there is nothing new under the sun...
19 posted on 09/30/2012 3:25:36 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Sequoyah101
That is very interesting (about the movie). I guess it is true that there is nothing new under the sun...
20 posted on 09/30/2012 3:25:54 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: hinckley buzzard
"That is very interesting (about the movie). I guess it is true that there is nothing new under the sun..."

Earlier today, I was thumbing through some GK Chesterton quotes from the early 20th century. Most of them were remarkably appropriate for today...

21 posted on 09/30/2012 3:38:02 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks yoe.


22 posted on 09/30/2012 4:54:11 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: yoe

The real number of dead is 2126 over in Afghanistan.

Plus the 22 SEALs.

And an unknown number of contractors.

For the 1st time in a long time, in thinking of our guys, I got a bit choked up reading that.

0bama and the DoD could unleash hell on that place. Why no one will I will never know.

THis aches to the bones.


23 posted on 09/30/2012 5:03:08 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: jayrunner

I’d take many of the ARVN troops in Nam and match them up against our best. They fought a superior NVA force to a standstill in 1972 without much American help, and many died in “no surrender” defenses of their positions. My friends who were US advisors at that time had nothing but praise for those ARVN who fought the NVA in the Easter Offensive and decimated whole divisions which greatly outnumbered them.

Afghanistan is much more open to Taliban infiltration because we really lack an good internal security intelligence system to weed out the bad guys. As the VC Infrastructure collapsed in much of SVN after the Tet 68 and Spring 69 offensives, ARVN counterintelligence (and the US equivalent, usually CIA), began to destroy most remaining VC bases and command centers.

The NVN spies who had embedded themselves deeply in the Govt from early on, however, did a great deal of damage to the South.

I had to trust my life to both ARVN and Foreign Ministry personnel when I was there, and I never ran into any trouble.

Not all wars are the same.


24 posted on 09/30/2012 6:32:10 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: jayrunner

There were trustworthy Vietnamese, some of whom cme to this country. My dad hired some of them. Salt of the Earth people.


25 posted on 09/30/2012 7:11:57 PM PDT by PghBaldy (I am sick of Obama's and Hillary's apologies to muslims, especially after 11 September 2012.)
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To: yoe

“He said the Americans thought they were under attack from a nearby Afghan army checkpoint and fired on it, prompting the Afghan soldiers to return fire.”

Yeah, the checkpoint was probably just spotting for them.


26 posted on 09/30/2012 7:24:52 PM PDT by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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To: hinckley buzzard

So where do they get the money to “help” you get re-elected? Stop donating to the RNC or any of it’s affiliates. We donate directly to conservative candidates.

Take the money away and they lose the power to “not help you get reelected.”


27 posted on 10/01/2012 2:53:00 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

What’s happened in Afghanistan are a series of self-imposed handicaps that just benefit the enemy. Not the least of which is Obama’s public declarations of our eventual withdrawal. This, to an area that is landlocked and surrounded by potential adversaries, not to mention that “Afghanistan” as a nation is a foreign notion to its own people, is the equivalent of declaring a free fire zone. You better get your power in position before your major ally flees.


28 posted on 10/01/2012 2:58:31 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: ilovesarah2012
Muslims need to be controlled. That’s why muslim countries need dictators. Freedom does not work for muslims.

Yes, indeed. Clearly stated. The more orthodox the population, the more control it requires.

29 posted on 10/01/2012 11:04:29 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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