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Bx. pizza boy 'raped' woman after delivering pie
New York Post ^ | September 30, 2012 | JAMIE SCHRAM, CANDACE AMOS and SABRINA FORD

Posted on 09/30/2012 10:20:41 AM PDT by ConservativeStatement

A baby-faced pizza-delivery boy savagely raped a woman in her Upper West Side apartment yesterday while her young daughter slept next to her in bed, police and the victim said.

“I want him put away. I want the world to know he raped me while my 7-year-old was asleep next to me,” the distraught woman said tearfully during an interview in her apartment. “He violated us, it’s disgusting — roaming around apartments looking to hurt people while you’re working.”

Suspect Cesar Lucas, 16, of The Bronx, allegedly prowled the 35-year-old victim’s West 61st Street building after delivering a pie to another person on her floor at about 12:30 a.m., police said.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption
KEYWORDS: newyork; pizza; rape
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“These a--holes are going to say he’s a good kid? I want that pizzeria to pay,” she fumed.

Hopefully, he pays.

1 posted on 09/30/2012 10:20:43 AM PDT by ConservativeStatement
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I want that pizzeria to pay,” she fumed.

Hopefully, he pays.

Forget him. She's no fool. She's going to sue the deep pocket.

2 posted on 09/30/2012 10:25:49 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: ConservativeStatement

The kid’s 16, won’t even get to trial until he’s 17, will be released when he turns 18.


3 posted on 09/30/2012 10:28:11 AM PDT by null and void (Day 1349 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Obama, a queer and present danger)
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To: ConservativeStatement

In this case, I have no problem if this woman sues the business....it is the businesses responsibility to properly screen their workers. You have to be really extreme Business Socialist to side with this business.


4 posted on 09/30/2012 10:29:38 AM PDT by SeminoleCounty (Political maturity is realizing that the "R" next to someone's name does not mean "conservative")
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To: null and void
The kid’s 16, won’t even get to trial until he’s 17, will be released when he turns 18.

If I was in charge, the kid wouldn't reach 17.

5 posted on 09/30/2012 10:30:05 AM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: ConservativeStatement
If the headline writer puts "raped" in quotes, does that make it a legitimate rape? Or more of a rape-rape? Am I supposed to be outraged like with Todd Akin's usage? Or supportive like in Roman Polanski's case? Or dismissive like in Bill Clinton's case?

I just don't know what's expected of me any more.

6 posted on 09/30/2012 10:30:18 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (ua)
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To: ConservativeStatement

In a sane world, the woman would have been allowed to own a handgun next to her bed....but this is NYC where the Constitution goes to die.

Bloomburg should be sued after the rapist kid.


7 posted on 09/30/2012 10:30:57 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Read SCOTUS Castle Rock vs Gonzales before dialing 911!)
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To: SeminoleCounty
No doubt but as an earlier post referenced, he shouldn't be walking the streets when he hits 18.
8 posted on 09/30/2012 10:31:02 AM PDT by ConservativeStatement (Obama "acted stupidly.")
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To: ConservativeStatement

According to the article, the woman’s apartment door was unlocked. Maybe her daughter forgot to lock it and went to bed. It happens. May this be a lesson to both - always lock your front and back doors.

The perp’s dad owns the pizzeria. Too bad the young man has ruined his life, and this wasn’t the first time he violated the law. He had been charged with burglary in the past.


9 posted on 09/30/2012 10:32:15 AM PDT by SatinDoll (NATURAL BORN CITZEN: BORN IN THE USA OF CITIZEN PARENTS.)
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To: Talisker

I’d vote for you.


10 posted on 09/30/2012 10:33:12 AM PDT by null and void (Day 1349 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Obama, a queer and present danger)
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To: ConservativeStatement
Last month, cops found Lucas with a 39-year-old woman’s credit cards and driver’s license after they cuffed him for jumping a turnstile.

And he was working for his dad's business when he attacked the woman in her apartment. I'd say the "good kid" defense is going to be a little difficult.

I wonder how he got the other woman's credit cards? Probably also during a pizza delivery, one way or the other.

11 posted on 09/30/2012 10:33:38 AM PDT by livius
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To: SeminoleCounty

His father owns the pizzeria where he was working.


12 posted on 09/30/2012 10:33:44 AM PDT by KansasGirl ("If you have a business, you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen."--B. Hussein Obama)
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To: SatinDoll
Too bad the young man has ruined his life

You're kidding, right?

He'll be released on his 18th birthday and his record expunged.

13 posted on 09/30/2012 10:35:20 AM PDT by null and void (Day 1349 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Obama, a queer and present danger)
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To: ConservativeStatement
Rape prevention kit.



Oh wait. She lives in NYC. Bloomie would put her away.
14 posted on 09/30/2012 10:37:20 AM PDT by caveat emptor (Zippity Do Dah)
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To: hinckley buzzard

Same pocket. The rapist is the son of the pizza shop owner.


16 posted on 09/30/2012 10:38:36 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Hopey changey Low emission unicorns and a crap sandwich)
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To: ConservativeStatement
'Law-enforcement sources said he tried a few doorknobs until he found the victim’s door unlocked — and went inside.'
17 posted on 09/30/2012 10:43:00 AM PDT by Theoria (Romney is a Pyrrhic victory.)
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To: ConservativeStatement

She goes after the pizza place?

Seriously?

BTW, how savage can it be and not wake the kid up?


18 posted on 09/30/2012 10:46:16 AM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: ConservativeStatement
Diversity is our strength.TM

Is the rapist's -- err, alleged rapist's -- family here legally?

19 posted on 09/30/2012 10:49:30 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: ConservativeStatement

20 posted on 09/30/2012 10:54:57 AM PDT by Bratch
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To: GeronL

You’re making excuses for rape?


21 posted on 09/30/2012 10:55:09 AM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: TigersEye

No.

If he is guilty he should be shot in the face.

I just think something else is happening here. How is that excusing it?


22 posted on 09/30/2012 11:13:45 AM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: ConservativeStatement
Never happen, thanks to the U.S. Supreme Court which ruled that it is unConstitutional to sentence a juvenile to life imprisonment, or for that matter,a number of years designed to keep him/her imprisoned until they die.

The best thing for lawabiding people to do now is adopt a mental attitude that I must protect myself and life because no one else is going to. While it is true that at one point in time long ago that the law and police were on the side of the law abiding individual, that no longer is the case.

23 posted on 09/30/2012 11:16:48 AM PDT by sport
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To: GeronL
BTW, how savage can it be and not wake the kid up?

I just think something else is happening here.

So you think she is lying about being raped. OK.

24 posted on 09/30/2012 11:23:23 AM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: SeminoleCounty

Actually a business could be a corporation which could go bankrupt..In this case the kid’s liability extends to the father who OWNS the business. Better go after the father since you get both his personal assets and his business = dual bankruptcy...

Cops arrested Lucas after finding him at work at New York Sal’s Pizza on Tenth Avenue between 48th and 49th streets — which is owned by his father, authorities said.


25 posted on 09/30/2012 11:46:01 AM PDT by GreaterSwiss
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To: sport
Never happen, thanks to the U.S. Supreme Court which ruled that it is unConstitutional to sentence a juvenile to life imprisonment, or for that matter,a number of years designed to keep him/her imprisoned until they die.

No they did NOT.

SCOTUS ruled that in the case of a juvenile criminal the lower courts were not FORCED to issue the minimum punishment or life in prison guidelines mandated by state/federal laws. They still have the option to keep the little punks behind bars for life.

The requirement is youth must be taken into consideration and that individualized sentences are handed down...ie it give the judge/jury latitude in determining whether or not the life sentence without parole is warranted. The offender does not receive the sentence because it is mandated but rather because it is warranted.

Here is the ruling

26 posted on 09/30/2012 11:46:55 AM PDT by Repeat Offender (Official Romney/GOP-E Platform - We suck less)
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To: GreaterSwiss

7 people in a 2 bedroom?

Lucas has lived in a two-bedroom apartment with his parents, two brothers and three sisters for about five years


27 posted on 09/30/2012 11:47:35 AM PDT by GreaterSwiss
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To: Repeat Offender

After re-reading my post, I am going to clarify, the courts CANNOT give mandated life sentences to minors, but must give individual sentences. The courts CAN give individual life sentences where warranted.


28 posted on 09/30/2012 11:55:20 AM PDT by Repeat Offender (Official Romney/GOP-E Platform - We suck less)
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To: ConservativeStatement

Why did the Post say ‘raped’? They aren’t sure it is “legitimate rape”?


29 posted on 09/30/2012 11:56:20 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Obama likes to claim credit for getting Osama. Why hasn't he tried Khalid Sheikh Mohammed yet?)
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If the headline writer puts "raped" in quotes, does that make it a legitimate rape?

It's VERY poorly written, but what I think the headline writer was trying to do was quote the woman who claims she was raped. A quote, not "square quotes."

I also find it extremely odd that someone in the same bed could sleep through a savage rape.

30 posted on 09/30/2012 12:06:04 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (Perception wins all the battles. Reality wins all the wars.)
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To: ConservativeStatement

Mayor Bloomberg’s office had no comment as the young boy was not delivering 16oz sodas with the pie.


31 posted on 09/30/2012 12:16:23 PM PDT by paddles ("The more corrupt the state, the more it legislates." Tacitus)
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BTW, how savage can it be and not wake the kid up?

We don't know the facts. Maybe he gagged her, or more likely she controlled herself as to not wake the child, to protect the child, trying to remain as still and quiet as possible. She likely wanted her child to remain asleep and as unnoticed as possible, so as not to draw the attention of the brutal rapist to the child, and also to spare the child the horrible memory of her mother being terribly raped. Maybe she is a very smart and sacrificial mother.

If they had a dog, he likely wouldn't have picked her apartment. Dogs can be wonderful at keeping the riffraff away.

32 posted on 09/30/2012 12:35:39 PM PDT by Bellflower (The LORD is Holy, separated from all sin, perfect, righteous, high and lifted up.)
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a dog is a good idea

Investigators will hopefully find the evidence to put this guy away

My problem is why is she suing the pizza company?


33 posted on 09/30/2012 12:39:35 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: ConservativeStatement
that 7 year old must be one hell of a sound sleeper...
34 posted on 09/30/2012 12:41:14 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Talisker
The kid’s 16, won’t even get to trial until he’s 17, will be released when he turns 18. If I was in charge, the kid wouldn't reach 17.

Although I do not practice in NY, the normal procedure elsewhere is to obscure the identity of a juvenile defendant by referring to him as "C.L." instead of giving his full name and all of this identifying information about his father, etc. So, since we are privy to this, either the police have been extremely sloppy or the decision to try him as an adult has been made. I'd say it is the latter and this guy won't be seeing anything but Sing-Sing, until he is about twice 18.

35 posted on 09/30/2012 12:47:38 PM PDT by Wally_Kalbacken
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If the headline writer puts "raped" in quotes, does that make it a legitimate rape?

The quotes are the same thing as saying "accused" or "alleged". It's CYA against defense attorneys that use the argument that a report saying that a suspect actually did the crime taints the jury pool, and violates the "innocent until proven guilty" protection of the Constitution. It's also protection against lawsuits in case the suspect is acquitted or never actually charged.

36 posted on 09/30/2012 1:04:48 PM PDT by Fresh Wind ('People have got to know whether or not their president is a crook.' Richard M. Nixon)
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I’m going to keep the door locked,

Why would you not keep the door locked? That's what the lock is for.
37 posted on 09/30/2012 1:04:53 PM PDT by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: muir_redwoods
That right? Well now...
38 posted on 09/30/2012 1:09:09 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: null and void

No, I’m not kidding. He will not change his ways no matter how old.


39 posted on 09/30/2012 1:13:47 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NATURAL BORN CITZEN: BORN IN THE USA OF CITIZEN PARENTS.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Looking to see of anyone had made a comment about the quotes. You made it better than I would have.


40 posted on 09/30/2012 1:45:11 PM PDT by Tanniker Smith (Rome didn't fall in a day, either.)
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To: ConservativeStatement

I’m also surprised that a 16 year old is legally allowed to work at 12:30 in the morning in NYC.

Maybe she was “raped” in quotes, because her kicking him prevented penetration.

Finally in the last paragraph we find that the kid was a punk, with an arrest record for stealing and bag snatching.

Wonder if he had any skittles on him and gold grilles on his teeth??


41 posted on 09/30/2012 1:50:28 PM PDT by Noob1999 (Loose Lips, Sink Ships)
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To: GeronL

So... are you implying that rape itself is not savage? Or is there a particular threshold that must be crossed before it is considered savage? Perhaps you could supply some examples to enlighten me so i know when to be truly outraged versus just upset.


42 posted on 09/30/2012 2:04:12 PM PDT by Mastador1
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To: ConservativeStatement

jus’ trayvonin’ around. Checking doors. To see what he can do...... Doesn’t have to be one of O’s sons either. Keep those doors locked!


43 posted on 09/30/2012 2:18:11 PM PDT by procrustes (You make Free Republic look bad!)
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To: GeronL

Any rape is savage, you twit!


44 posted on 09/30/2012 2:22:52 PM PDT by IslamE (epiphany)
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To: IslamE

we are all Todd Akin now!

I mis-typed


45 posted on 09/30/2012 2:27:40 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Talisker

“Last month, cops found Lucas with a 39-year-old woman’s credit cards and driver’s license after they cuffed him for jumping a turnstile.

He was charged with burglary, criminal possession of stolen credit cards and theft of service.”

Sounds like a great kid.


46 posted on 09/30/2012 2:35:31 PM PDT by funfan
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To: GeronL

Ah, good comeback, I like it, now I know how Akin felt!


47 posted on 09/30/2012 3:39:59 PM PDT by IslamE (epiphany)
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To: GeronL

Proud of yourself now?

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/shock_fess_of_pizza_kid_in_rape_q4N60pKxm9oiTzY4eI3inN

The savage confessed.


48 posted on 10/01/2012 8:08:32 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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good. They should lock him up forever. IMO.


49 posted on 10/01/2012 8:17:41 AM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: GeronL

Nice reply, thanks.


50 posted on 10/01/2012 8:21:16 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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