Skip to comments.Bx. pizza boy 'raped' woman after delivering pie
Posted on 09/30/2012 10:20:41 AM PDT by ConservativeStatement
A baby-faced pizza-delivery boy savagely raped a woman in her Upper West Side apartment yesterday while her young daughter slept next to her in bed, police and the victim said.
I want him put away. I want the world to know he raped me while my 7-year-old was asleep next to me, the distraught woman said tearfully during an interview in her apartment. He violated us, its disgusting roaming around apartments looking to hurt people while youre working.
Suspect Cesar Lucas, 16, of The Bronx, allegedly prowled the 35-year-old victims West 61st Street building after delivering a pie to another person on her floor at about 12:30 a.m., police said.
(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...
Hopefully, he pays.
Hopefully, he pays.
Forget him. She's no fool. She's going to sue the deep pocket.
The kid’s 16, won’t even get to trial until he’s 17, will be released when he turns 18.
In this case, I have no problem if this woman sues the business....it is the businesses responsibility to properly screen their workers. You have to be really extreme Business Socialist to side with this business.
If I was in charge, the kid wouldn't reach 17.
I just don't know what's expected of me any more.
In a sane world, the woman would have been allowed to own a handgun next to her bed....but this is NYC where the Constitution goes to die.
Bloomburg should be sued after the rapist kid.
According to the article, the woman’s apartment door was unlocked. Maybe her daughter forgot to lock it and went to bed. It happens. May this be a lesson to both - always lock your front and back doors.
The perp’s dad owns the pizzeria. Too bad the young man has ruined his life, and this wasn’t the first time he violated the law. He had been charged with burglary in the past.
I’d vote for you.
And he was working for his dad's business when he attacked the woman in her apartment. I'd say the "good kid" defense is going to be a little difficult.
I wonder how he got the other woman's credit cards? Probably also during a pizza delivery, one way or the other.
His father owns the pizzeria where he was working.
You're kidding, right?
He'll be released on his 18th birthday and his record expunged.
Same pocket. The rapist is the son of the pizza shop owner.
She goes after the pizza place?
BTW, how savage can it be and not wake the kid up?
Is the rapist's -- err, alleged rapist's -- family here legally?
You’re making excuses for rape?
If he is guilty he should be shot in the face.
I just think something else is happening here. How is that excusing it?
The best thing for lawabiding people to do now is adopt a mental attitude that I must protect myself and life because no one else is going to. While it is true that at one point in time long ago that the law and police were on the side of the law abiding individual, that no longer is the case.
I just think something else is happening here.
So you think she is lying about being raped. OK.
Actually a business could be a corporation which could go bankrupt..In this case the kid’s liability extends to the father who OWNS the business. Better go after the father since you get both his personal assets and his business = dual bankruptcy...
Cops arrested Lucas after finding him at work at New York Sals Pizza on Tenth Avenue between 48th and 49th streets which is owned by his father, authorities said.
No they did NOT.
SCOTUS ruled that in the case of a juvenile criminal the lower courts were not FORCED to issue the minimum punishment or life in prison guidelines mandated by state/federal laws. They still have the option to keep the little punks behind bars for life.
The requirement is youth must be taken into consideration and that individualized sentences are handed down...ie it give the judge/jury latitude in determining whether or not the life sentence without parole is warranted. The offender does not receive the sentence because it is mandated but rather because it is warranted.
7 people in a 2 bedroom?
Lucas has lived in a two-bedroom apartment with his parents, two brothers and three sisters for about five years
After re-reading my post, I am going to clarify, the courts CANNOT give mandated life sentences to minors, but must give individual sentences. The courts CAN give individual life sentences where warranted.
Why did the Post say ‘raped’? They aren’t sure it is “legitimate rape”?
It's VERY poorly written, but what I think the headline writer was trying to do was quote the woman who claims she was raped. A quote, not "square quotes."
I also find it extremely odd that someone in the same bed could sleep through a savage rape.
Mayor Bloomberg’s office had no comment as the young boy was not delivering 16oz sodas with the pie.
We don't know the facts. Maybe he gagged her, or more likely she controlled herself as to not wake the child, to protect the child, trying to remain as still and quiet as possible. She likely wanted her child to remain asleep and as unnoticed as possible, so as not to draw the attention of the brutal rapist to the child, and also to spare the child the horrible memory of her mother being terribly raped. Maybe she is a very smart and sacrificial mother.
If they had a dog, he likely wouldn't have picked her apartment. Dogs can be wonderful at keeping the riffraff away.
a dog is a good idea
Investigators will hopefully find the evidence to put this guy away
My problem is why is she suing the pizza company?
Although I do not practice in NY, the normal procedure elsewhere is to obscure the identity of a juvenile defendant by referring to him as "C.L." instead of giving his full name and all of this identifying information about his father, etc. So, since we are privy to this, either the police have been extremely sloppy or the decision to try him as an adult has been made. I'd say it is the latter and this guy won't be seeing anything but Sing-Sing, until he is about twice 18.
The quotes are the same thing as saying "accused" or "alleged". It's CYA against defense attorneys that use the argument that a report saying that a suspect actually did the crime taints the jury pool, and violates the "innocent until proven guilty" protection of the Constitution. It's also protection against lawsuits in case the suspect is acquitted or never actually charged.
No, I’m not kidding. He will not change his ways no matter how old.
Looking to see of anyone had made a comment about the quotes. You made it better than I would have.
I’m also surprised that a 16 year old is legally allowed to work at 12:30 in the morning in NYC.
Maybe she was “raped” in quotes, because her kicking him prevented penetration.
Finally in the last paragraph we find that the kid was a punk, with an arrest record for stealing and bag snatching.
Wonder if he had any skittles on him and gold grilles on his teeth??
So... are you implying that rape itself is not savage? Or is there a particular threshold that must be crossed before it is considered savage? Perhaps you could supply some examples to enlighten me so i know when to be truly outraged versus just upset.
jus’ trayvonin’ around. Checking doors. To see what he can do...... Doesn’t have to be one of O’s sons either. Keep those doors locked!
Any rape is savage, you twit!
we are all Todd Akin now!
“Last month, cops found Lucas with a 39-year-old womans credit cards and drivers license after they cuffed him for jumping a turnstile.
He was charged with burglary, criminal possession of stolen credit cards and theft of service.”
Sounds like a great kid.
Ah, good comeback, I like it, now I know how Akin felt!
Proud of yourself now?
The savage confessed.
good. They should lock him up forever. IMO.
Nice reply, thanks.