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Why the polls are all wrong. To set up the claim, "You cheated!"
30 September 2012 | Mene Mene Tekel Upharsin

Posted on 09/30/2012 10:36:09 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Story after story has come out showing the populace somewhat evenly divided between the two Presidential candidates. However, on the street where the "real" people live, we all know the story is VERY different from the polls.

The ONLY people I hear advocating for the Democrat Party are the individuals like the "Obama gave us a cellphone" woman and they do not make up a significant part of the population. Very few cars now sport Obama stickers anymore. They've all been peeled off. The invective used by people when discussing the Democrat Party and Obama is severe.

The only conclusion that comes to mind, then, is that the polls are deliberately being biased to set up a foundation to claim that the election was stolen. It will be claimed that there is no way the vote could have been that much in favor of the Republican Party unless someone cheated. The truth, however, is that the only individuals supporting the Democrat Party or any of their candidates are individuals who want to see this nation destroyed or don't care if it is because of their own selfishness.


TOPICS: Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: cheating; elections; polls; stolen; vanity
A subject worthy of debate. No matter what happens with this election, neither side is going to accept the outcome.
1 posted on 09/30/2012 10:36:16 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

It does no good to be in denial. Even Rasmussen’s polls are awful this morning. And no wonder. Romney is playing to lose. His pathetic ads obsess over the “debt” which NO ONE cares about, or his “economic plan” when the Dems have successfully poisoned him with the “47%” video. He needs to attack Obama mercilessly. But he won’t. Because he doesn’t want to be called a racist. Sound familiar?


2 posted on 09/30/2012 10:41:42 AM PDT by montag813
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

It’s also to set up the “illigitimate presidency” canard all over again, so Romney’s legislation can be blocked and his judicial appointments can be blocked. We’ve seen it all before.


3 posted on 09/30/2012 10:41:55 AM PDT by cotton1706
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
Agree 100%.

If they know they are going to lose, then a simple loss is embarrassing and nothing more than that. BUT if they become convinced that they will easily win a huge victory -- if the result turns out to be a loss, then -- obviously! -- they were stabbed in the back! There was cheating! Riots are fully justified. Maybe Obama should just stay on past January!

Selling their followers on the idea that they already have everything all wrapped up is a last ditch effort to turn defeat into victory.

4 posted on 09/30/2012 10:42:23 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (ua)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

I have been saying the same thing, when Obama loses, the press and his sycophants will scream that the election was stolen from him by racism and touch voting machines! They will demand all types of investigation by Congress and the Press with no real evidence,


5 posted on 09/30/2012 10:43:21 AM PDT by Trueblackman (I would rather lose on Conservative principles than vote for a RINO candidate.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
I said earlier today that we face a big problem:

Because of the constant pumping of the "Obama is ahead in all the polls" meme, if it does go down the other way, there is a certain contingent that is ripe for turmoil, riots, etc. claiming that the election was stolen.

"All the polls were the other way", they'll say.

6 posted on 09/30/2012 10:44:52 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

You really think your neighborhood in Texas is indicative of the country as a whole?


7 posted on 09/30/2012 10:45:08 AM PDT by Delhi Rebels (There was a row in Silver Street - the regiments was out.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Or to prop up the believability of them stealing it!


8 posted on 09/30/2012 10:45:29 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: Delhi Rebels
You really think your neighborhood in Texas is indicative of the country as a whole?

Well, pretty much yes. Everywhere except your neighborhood.

9 posted on 09/30/2012 10:51:36 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

BINGO, Thisis what I said a month ago. zero’s supporters will say, “How could he lose? He led in all the polls! Republicans cheated”.


10 posted on 09/30/2012 10:53:25 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually (Hendrix))
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To: montag813
He needs to attack [politically] Obama mercilessly

I agree, Obama needs to be hammered mercilessly on increasing taxes on the working poor, on ObamaCare taxes, on his "You didn't build that" comment, on his screwing jobs from the XL Pipeline, on telling the Catholic Church it has to pay for Abortifacients and Sterilizations (Surgery), on telling Black Churches they must support Gay rights, on telling Hispanics applying for citizenship they must go to the back of the line so that LGBT and Criminal aliens can go ahead of them.

It needs to be from different angles over and over so he and his sycophantic press can't get their balance back.

The Democrats are very vulnerable right now. They are so far left they Have to paint the Republicans as extreme so folks won't look at how far left they've traveled in only a few months.

11 posted on 09/30/2012 11:00:21 AM PDT by sr4402
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To: montag813

It is his turn after all. Why would he fight?


12 posted on 09/30/2012 11:05:41 AM PDT by pennyfarmer (Romney is a cresent wrench when you need a hammer. Sure it might work, but do you want to chance it?)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

It has been my observation that the polls swing wildly until a few weeks before the election when they tighten up to the real numbers. Every pollster wants to be the one that predicts the election the closest, whether it’s his guy or not. It gives them bragging rights and plenty of free marketing by the press afterward, but it’s only their final prediction that counts, which is typically the day before. Before that they can (and do) play fast and free with their numbers, blaming the wild swings on a “fickle and uncertain populace”.


13 posted on 09/30/2012 11:13:49 AM PDT by randog (Tap into America!)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
Why the polls are all wrong. To set up the claim, "You cheated!"

I expect there's a lot of liberals who will meet their satanic father the same day this play at this again.

14 posted on 09/30/2012 11:22:48 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: sr4402

I’m starting to believe that all of Romney’s advisors are Democrats!


15 posted on 09/30/2012 11:30:46 AM PDT by a real Sheila (RYAN/romney 2012)
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To: Delhi Rebels

In 2008 the Obama stickers outnumbered the McCain stickers in my area by about 10 to 1. Today the Romney stickers an anti-Obama stickers outnumber the Obama stickers by 20 to 1.


16 posted on 09/30/2012 11:32:01 AM PDT by RightWingConspirator (Obamanation--the most corrupt regime since Robert Mugabe's Zimbabwe)
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To: a real Sheila

Romney’s top advisors are primarily from McCain’s 2008 team. We all know how well that worked out. Those pusillanimous ba$tard$ advised McCain not to attack Obama, and that was so stupid because there was so much Obama-provided material to attack him with.


17 posted on 09/30/2012 11:36:45 AM PDT by RightWingConspirator (Obamanation--the most corrupt regime since Robert Mugabe's Zimbabwe)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Who accepts what doesn’t matter. The result is the only thing that matters. Who cheated is food for the talking heads and the losing side.


18 posted on 09/30/2012 11:37:12 AM PDT by snoringbear (Government is the Pimp,)
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To: LS

If Romney wins by a nearly 2-to-1 margin as Reagan did against Carter, accusations of fraud will fall on deaf ears.


19 posted on 09/30/2012 11:41:20 AM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Then maybe the Dems will all support Voter ID..


20 posted on 09/30/2012 11:52:42 AM PDT by ken5050
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To: Delhi Rebels
You really think your neighborhood in Texas is indicative of the country as a whole?

This county primary democrat undervote is very representative of eight swing states:



Click on the map for the post link. Sure looks like many neighborhoods feel the same way. Oh. Welcome to FreeRepublic.
21 posted on 09/30/2012 11:55:20 AM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: Delhi Rebels
You really think your neighborhood in Texas is indicative of the country as a whole?

I live in Oregon and have seen the same thing. Very little love for Obama being publicly displayed, O will still win Oregon but it's definately not like 2008.
22 posted on 09/30/2012 12:08:06 PM PDT by Tailback
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To: Delhi Rebels

My neighborhood in Indiana is the same as Mene’s. The Obama goons are in helmet defilade while his detractors are loud and numerous. And welcome to FR.


23 posted on 09/30/2012 12:13:02 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
Well, pretty much yes. Everywhere except your neighborhood.

That makes about as much sense as your original post does.

24 posted on 09/30/2012 12:22:57 PM PDT by Delhi Rebels (There was a row in Silver Street - the regiments was out.)
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To: RightWingConspirator
In 2008 the Obama stickers outnumbered the McCain stickers in my area by about 10 to 1. Today the Romney stickers an anti-Obama stickers outnumber the Obama stickers by 20 to 1.

So what do you conclude from that? That Romney should take 95% of the vote in the election?

25 posted on 09/30/2012 12:25:30 PM PDT by Delhi Rebels (There was a row in Silver Street - the regiments was out.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

You must not live in Virginia. Here the Obama stickers are everywhere, not just in the liberal DC suburbs. There are Obama signs in formerly conservative rural areas. Fortunately the Romney signs outnumber them and the ratio is a bit higher than 2008. But it’s not much higher.


26 posted on 09/30/2012 12:33:03 PM PDT by palmer (Jim, please bill me 50 cents for this completely useless post)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

it’s true even here in true blue MD... very few cars with New Obama stickers. Reliably every car sporting the equally laughable “Coexist” sticker usually has an Obama 12 sticker as well.


27 posted on 09/30/2012 12:33:10 PM PDT by Katya (Homo Nosce Te Ipsum)
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To: Delhi Rebels

Not at all. Just that Obama is not nearly as popular in my area as he was in 2008. I haven’t seen any Obama yard signs up around town, but when I was down at the local Republican campaign office last week maybe a dozen people came in asking for Romney/Ryan yard signs and they were already out of them


28 posted on 09/30/2012 1:54:27 PM PDT by RightWingConspirator (Obamanation--the most corrupt regime since Robert Mugabe's Zimbabwe)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
A couple of cues as to why we should be skeptical of these pollsters. 1) If Obama has such a huge lead in these crucial swing states, than why is he continuing to pour so much resources here. Wouldn't he be better served putting those resources in states that were closer? 2) Why don't we see the same increase in other states rather than these swing states? You would expect to see the same trend among other states but this is not the case.
29 posted on 09/30/2012 2:09:25 PM PDT by hoosierary
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

They have set Voter ID up as racist.

When they lose, it will be the catalyst for violence.


30 posted on 09/30/2012 2:56:10 PM PDT by Erik Latranyi (When religions have to beg the gov't for a waiver, we are already under socialism.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Hopefully this election will not go to the supreme court as expect John (the traitor) Roberts will vote with the RATS to protect his “reputation”


31 posted on 09/30/2012 5:43:25 PM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (We won't stand for biased umps fixing a ball game but we allow a biased media to fix elections.)
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To: Delhi Rebels
That makes about as much sense as your original post does.

Here's my prediction. You're going to eat those words this year.

32 posted on 09/30/2012 6:53:25 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: Delhi Rebels
I guess many other Americans are not as ignorant as you think they are either. Wonder what the outcome of this is going to be? Do you think we're all going to roll over and let folks like you deceive us? We'll see....

Click here.

33 posted on 10/03/2012 4:07:30 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
I guess many other Americans are not as ignorant as you think they are either. Wonder what the outcome of this is going to be? Do you think we're all going to roll over and let folks like you deceive us? We'll see....

I guess we'll know one way or the other five weeks from today.

34 posted on 10/03/2012 4:12:51 AM PDT by Delhi Rebels (There was a row in Silver Street - the regiments was out.)
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To: Delhi Rebels

My, you’re up early. Very interesting.


35 posted on 10/03/2012 4:17:26 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
My, you’re up early.

As are you. Working on your polling excuses?

And just out of curiosity, which side do you think are setting up the polls for use as excuses to explain vote fraud? Obama or Romney?

36 posted on 10/03/2012 4:22:05 AM PDT by Delhi Rebels (There was a row in Silver Street - the regiments was out.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Where do I get my free phone??


37 posted on 10/03/2012 6:08:32 AM PDT by citizen (America is at an awkward stage...Too late to work within the system, too early to shoot the bastards)
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To: Delhi Rebels
2 Chronicles 7:14

"If My people who are called by My name will humble themselves, and pray and seek My face, and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and I will forgive their sin and heal their land."

All that is left now are the consequences.

38 posted on 10/03/2012 7:06:12 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Amazing all the things that God gets blamed for.


39 posted on 10/03/2012 7:16:28 AM PDT by Delhi Rebels (There was a row in Silver Street - the regiments was out.)
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To: All

this morning

MSNBC did a bit about algore abandoning Ohio and Mika Brezinsky snarked that Algore won the election against GWBush.

CNN had a romney spokewoman and an newreader woman get into a cat fight over media bias. (if anyone finds the video please share)

CNBC had the NBC pollster saying how wonderful and perfect his polling is.

seems the MSM is blaming everyone.


40 posted on 10/03/2012 7:23:58 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Delhi Rebels
You'll eat those words too. Keep digging.

I guess this is YOUR neighborhood:

Click here.

You just keep providing ammunition. No fear of God, eh? You'll be easy.

41 posted on 10/04/2012 1:31:09 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
You'll eat those words too. Keep digging.

And just imagine how much fun you're going to have feeding those words to me? Or eating all that crow. One way or the other we'll know in about a month.

I guess this is YOUR neighborhood...

What makes you say that?

You just keep providing ammunition. No fear of God, eh? You'll be easy.

You've got it all wrong. It's you I'm not afraid of.

42 posted on 10/04/2012 3:23:19 PM PDT by Delhi Rebels (There was a row in Silver Street - the regiments was out.)
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To: Delhi Rebels
You've got it all wrong. It's you I'm not afraid of.

I like that.

43 posted on 10/05/2012 5:08:51 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: Delhi Rebels
And just imagine how much fun you're going to have feeding those words to me?

If your words are false, God will feed your words to you one day.

44 posted on 10/05/2012 5:10:48 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
If your words are false, God will feed your words to you one day.

And if your words are?

45 posted on 10/05/2012 5:18:39 AM PDT by Delhi Rebels (There was a row in Silver Street - the regiments was out.)
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To: Delhi Rebels

If my words are false, I’ll take full responsibility.


46 posted on 10/05/2012 4:25:26 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: Delhi Rebels
Looks like the day is getting closer. Good article to read:

Click here for threatened riots if Obama loses.

Looks like it is going to get interesting.

47 posted on 10/15/2012 7:03:56 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
Looks like the day is getting closer.

Three weeks from today.

48 posted on 10/16/2012 3:55:31 AM PDT by Delhi Rebels (There was a row in Silver Street - the regiments was out.)
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