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Youths serving life without parole get second chance in California
Reuters ^ | Sept. 30, 2012 | Mary Slosson

Posted on 09/30/2012 2:57:16 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY

(Reuters) - California Governor Jerry Brown signed into law on Sunday a measure that grants juvenile offenders sentenced to life in prison without parole the chance to petition for their release after serving 25 years.

Roughly 300 inmates in California's prison system have been sentenced to a lifetime behind bars for offenses committed as teenagers, according to the bill's sponsor, state Senator Leland Yee, a Democrat from San Francisco.

Those inmates will now be eligible for parole after serving at least 25 years in prison.

The courts can review their cases after 15 years in prison and lower their sentence to 25 years to life if the juvenile offenders demonstrate remorse and work towards rehabilitation.

"The governor's signature ... is emotional for both the supporters and the opposition, but I am proud that today California said we believe all kids, even those we had given up on in the past, are deserving of a second chance," Yee said in a statement.

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: juvenilejustice; lelandyee; lwop; moonbeam

1 posted on 09/30/2012 2:57:23 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I am sure their victims will rise and be alive and well again because the dead deserve a second chance at life, right? (The only reason I know of for juvenile LWOP is murder)

Hey, Bownie, let one of those little predators kill YOUR wife and then talk to us about “second chances.”


2 posted on 09/30/2012 3:09:25 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (We can’t just leave it (food choice) up to the parents. -- moochele obozo 2/12/2012 (cnsnews))
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Jurors should know this going in when they set the punishment phase. Double life and convicted of ALL charges not just the easiest to try.


3 posted on 09/30/2012 3:10:33 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Obama likes to claim credit for getting Osama. Why hasn't he tried Khalid Sheikh Mohammed yet?)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

This makes sense because after 25yrs the murder vics come back to life too no?


4 posted on 09/30/2012 3:11:06 PM PDT by italianquaker (The 47 pct need to pay their fair share)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

As the article says, these are near adults who have committed first degree murder of a particularly heinous kind. Not little toddlers who made innocent mistakes.

I think that, if this law goes through, Jerry Brown should be compelled to have a tent city in his back yard to house these released criminals.

In fact, I’ve always thought that those who release violent criminals of this kind should put their money where their mouths are by taking in the criminals they release on society. Let them take the risks.


5 posted on 09/30/2012 3:11:16 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Will their victims get a second chance?

Will they be better citizens as a result of getting their freedom, or just go out an practice new skills learned from fellow inmates?

And of course, vote democrat.


6 posted on 09/30/2012 3:12:21 PM PDT by redfreedom (Just a simpleton enjoying the freedoms a fly-over/red state has to offer.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Second chance for what? Having spent 25 or more years in prison then what are they qualified to do on the outside?


7 posted on 09/30/2012 3:16:03 PM PDT by Delhi Rebels (There was a row in Silver Street - the regiments was out.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
A youth offender after 25 years will be in his early 40's, in the prime of his strength (after 25 years of nothing to do but work out and practice martial arts), will have little or no work skills, and difficulty in adjusting to outside life.

They will be career criminals as soon as they hit the streets, and will kill again.

8 posted on 09/30/2012 3:17:46 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Charlie Daniels - Payback Time http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWwTJj_nosI)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Even though SCOTUS disagrees, this is another good reason for the death penalty.


9 posted on 09/30/2012 3:18:35 PM PDT by umgud (No Rats, No Rino's)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I hope someone keeps track of who the governor is robbing, raping and murdering with this gesture of “good will” towards imprisioned gang members. Maybe he’s beefing up his homies for the “revolution.”

The lefties want an American arab spring in a bad way. This is their only hope in bullying over the Tea Party blockade in the House and on the Internet. They had such high hopes dashed by the REAL domestic terorists (according to DHS and DOD) - the Tea Party.


10 posted on 09/30/2012 3:31:17 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Libs are always looking for ways to rationalize the release of murderers.

Two more reasons why the death penalty should be applied for murder:

"inmates will now be eligible for parole after serving at least 25 years in prison."

The courts can review their cases after 15 years in prison and lower their sentence


11 posted on 09/30/2012 3:35:47 PM PDT by Iron Munro (US Embassies Come and Go But An Obama Apology Lasts Forever)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Always a way out. Dam enablers. The knowledge of what is right and wrong is perceived as early as 4 years old. Fry the stupid bas-tards.


12 posted on 09/30/2012 3:38:18 PM PDT by SgtHooper (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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To: Iron Munro

They need to make it like the review of plays in the NFL, something these jagoffs would understand. You choose review, and lose, you get penalized another 10 years.


13 posted on 09/30/2012 3:40:57 PM PDT by SgtHooper (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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To: Iron Munro

The great virtue of the death penalty, even when it’s not actually executed, is that it keeps the subjects in prison appealing their sentences, preventing this kind of nonsense.


14 posted on 09/30/2012 3:41:21 PM PDT by libstripper
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Will someone not rid us of this meddlesome Governor Moonbeam — with apologies to T.S. Eliot.
15 posted on 09/30/2012 3:47:12 PM PDT by MasterGunner01
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To: Free ThinkerNY
My son, of excellent conservative credentials otherwise, insists that LWOP is a better alternative to the death penalty, and for years I've been warning him that LWOP will never really mean no parole: we'll be asked to show pity on juvenile offenders because they deserve a "second chance," and we'll be asked to show pity on septuagenarians because "they're old men now, who can't harm anyone."

Near adult juvenile offenders are already being used as contract murderers by Mexican gangs because they're immune to the death penalty. Imagine what happens when they discover that LWOP really means 15-20 years and a get-out-of-jail-free card.

Thanks Kali leftists, for winning a family argument for me that's been running nearly 20 years. Is there anything so stupid that it won't become law in this incredibly depraved, decaying and dim-witted State?

16 posted on 09/30/2012 3:49:23 PM PDT by FredZarguna (When a first-rate intellectual like Samuel L. Jackson makes this kind of a video ... well ...)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

“the bill’s sponsor, state Senator Leland Yee, a Democrat from San Francisco.”

Oh, *goody*. This is the twit who got his panties in a wad about Sarah Palin getting paid to speak at some school in California.

I don’t suppose it’s too much to ask Senator Lee if he realizes that by the time 25 years has passed, said juvenile isn’t a juvenile anymore? As in, there’s no longer a kid to give a ‘second chance’ to? Or point out to the esteemed Senator that crimes that warrant a life sentence are pretty the most heinous, vicious, and violent actions imaginable? You don’t get life for underage drinking or shoplifting, dude.


17 posted on 09/30/2012 3:55:15 PM PDT by DemforBush (100% Ex-Democrat.)
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To: Cicero

The article said it all-the supporters of this bill are “emotional” that it passed-the emotion they’re feeling is their own smug sense of moral superiority and self “esteem” for being such good people.

Some poor schlub will have to be the one who bears the real consequences of this. As you say, no one, especially California, puts juveniles away with life without parole for vandalism or even carjacking. Whatever they’re there for had to be an especially heinous murder. Monsters like that will do it again, they have no empathy for others.


18 posted on 09/30/2012 3:57:25 PM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: FredZarguna

My son, of excellent conservative credentials otherwise, insists that LWOP is a better alternative to the death penalty, and for years I’ve been warning him that LWOP will never really mean no parole: we’ll be asked to show pity on juvenile offenders because they deserve a “second chance,” and we’ll be asked to show pity on septuagenarians because “they’re old men now, who can’t harm anyone.”
Near adult juvenile offenders are already being used as contract murderers by Mexican gangs because they’re immune to the death penalty. Imagine what happens when they discover that LWOP really means 15-20 years and a get-out-of-jail-free card.
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No it is not a better alternative. it turns citiens into slaves supporting these death penalty candidates.


19 posted on 09/30/2012 4:02:32 PM PDT by Chickensoup (STOP The Great O-ppression)
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To: PapaBear3625

The first duty of local government is to protect law abiding citizens from feral humans. Everything else is secondary. Prison is not for rehab, it is to remove a violent threat from civil society. A barbarian went into prison and if released before death, a barbarian will likely leave. No thanks. Let ‘em bunk with the governor.


20 posted on 09/30/2012 4:05:18 PM PDT by Jacquerie (Exterminate rats.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

That’s fine with me, so long as the governor and the parole board are willing to finish his prison term if he should offend again.


21 posted on 09/30/2012 4:09:08 PM PDT by Dogbert41 ("...The people of Jerusalem are strong, because the Lord Almighty is their God" Zech. 12:5)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Who is going to keep a head count of the post release victims and use that as a condition of the viability for this program.

If there is but one new victim, then this so called sympathy fiails.

Who is going to hold them accountable?


22 posted on 09/30/2012 4:15:27 PM PDT by cicero2k
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Wouldn’t it be a nice bit of irony if ‘Moonbeam’ was the one that originally pushed for Life Without Parole for Juvenile Offenders, now in his ‘2nd chance’ he reduces it to 25 yr and possibility of parole.

These Libs are really ‘great’ but, then again, you must blame the IDIOTS who keep voting for them......


23 posted on 09/30/2012 4:23:41 PM PDT by xrmusn (6/98 "It is virtually impossible to clean the pond as long as the pigs are still crapping in it")
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To: Free ThinkerNY; All
A Gingrich penned op-ed IN SUPPORT of the bill from Sept 20th
24 posted on 09/30/2012 4:23:53 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Osama's dead... and so is our ambassador - Coulter.)
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To: FredZarguna

You’re listed as being in PA, assuming your son is/was as well, PA has only executed 3 inmates in over 35 years. All three were in the mid-late ‘90s under Tom Ridge.


25 posted on 09/30/2012 4:31:14 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Osama's dead... and so is our ambassador - Coulter.)
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To: FredZarguna; newzjunkey
All three waived appeals and asked for their sentences to be carried out.

What's that say about the appeals process in PA?

26 posted on 09/30/2012 4:34:42 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Osama's dead... and so is our ambassador - Coulter.)
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To: newzjunkey
Yeah, so ... ?

We could not take a legitimate interest in events outside of our borders?

Kali is not in an advanced state of degeneration because PA doesn't execute murderers?

Tom Ridge isn't a liberal moron because the last three people executed in PA were executed on his watch? [Actually, all three waived their rights to appeal at various stages. Had they not done so, there is very little doubt in my mind that they would still be alive. The last contested execution in PA was FIFTY YEARS AGO.]

Not really sure what conclusion to infer from your observation; but PA still has capital punishment on its books. We aren't talking about freeing capital murderers for the sake of giving them a "second chance" (read: a second chance to kill more people.) As long as a person who is on death row stays there, that is a REAL LWOP sentence, not a fake one, as now appears to be the case in your thoroughly debased State.

27 posted on 09/30/2012 4:42:21 PM PDT by FredZarguna (When a first-rate intellectual like Samuel L. Jackson makes this kind of a video ... well ...)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Oh how nice of him........so he kills your child, your mother your wife and he’s set free to enjoy his life thanks to these demented rat bastards who should be in a cell next to them. And they wonder why we love guns so much


28 posted on 09/30/2012 5:00:44 PM PDT by ronnie raygun (bb)
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To: MasterGunner01

I’ve heard it said that you get the type of government you deserve. Appears it’s true in CA.


29 posted on 09/30/2012 5:04:36 PM PDT by Longtooth
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To: Delhi Rebels
Second chance for what? Having spent 25 or more years in prison then what are they qualified to do on the outside?

25 years? Good. By the time 25 years are up, maybe they will have killed themselves off.

FMCDH(BITS)

30 posted on 09/30/2012 5:12:31 PM PDT by nothingnew (I fear for my Republic due to marxist influence in our government. Open eyes/see)
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To: Longtooth

Once the productive flee (individuals and businesses), the parasites will turn on each other because that’s all that are left. California will become another Detroit written large as the scum fight over turf.


31 posted on 09/30/2012 5:43:14 PM PDT by MasterGunner01
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To: DemforBush

Yeah, but this moron Leland Yee also had to stick his big nose into the LPGA’s business when they tried to make the Koreans on the tour learn English.

http://connection.ebscohost.com/c/articles/39770574/lpga-language-flap-spurs-california-bill


32 posted on 09/30/2012 6:27:24 PM PDT by bjorn14 (Woe to those who call good evil and evil good. Isaiah 5:20)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

So Manson’s followers that are still breathing will be turned out, and I guess the Menendez brothers will be walking the street again soon?


33 posted on 09/30/2012 6:56:56 PM PDT by Harley (Those that don't engage in politics are destined to be governed by inferiors. -Plato)
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To: Cicero

“..if this law goes through, Jerry Brown should be compelled to have a tent city in his back yard to house these released criminals.”

The gov’s signature indicates it has become law, having reached his desk after passing the state legislature.

I like your thinking. It really frosts me that big hearted pols will introduce/pass/sign legislation that never affects them or those they care about in their own lives, only Joe Schmo out there. And, where are these released perps going to live? In the inner cities, wreaking even more havoc.


34 posted on 09/30/2012 7:26:56 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: bjorn14

How about posting Yee’s home address, phone number, car license number, office number etc. in the prisons so that LWOP-freed felons can come over and stay with him and his family?

Gov. Moonbeam has lots of room in his mansion.

This is gonna be fun!


35 posted on 09/30/2012 7:55:52 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: Harley
So Manson’s followers that are still breathing will be turned out, and I guess the Menendez brothers will be walking the street again soon?

I don't believe any of them were juveniles.

36 posted on 10/01/2012 4:30:12 PM PDT by SuziQ
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