Today’s ‘palliative care’ disrespects the natural law

Celebrate Life Magazine ^ | September-October 2012 | Elizabeth D. Wickham, PhD

[lastchance]

The proper title for a Podiatrist is “Doctor” so what are you yammering about?

[little jeremiah]

That is exactly what happened.

A vital topic, great article, with important comments by several people with their own experiences.

And derailed, defiled, and now hidden from view, all because of one person.

Disgusting.

[little jeremiah]

Thank goodness, it’s back in the News Forum with the objectionable comments pulled.

[Brian Kopp DPM]

There is a difference between hospice and palliative care. The original article specifically deals with palliative care. There are many wonderful hospices and many angels of mercy working within both hospice and palliative care but there are also ethical lapses in both fields.

[verga]

I am increasingly of the mind that medical people in the US are losing the trust of their patients, because of the dilution in some cases complete disregard of their Hippocratic oath.

Fixed it for you

[AKA Elena]

I believed that the increasing doses of morphine were the REAL cause of death of my best friend in 1985, after a long and tragic fight against cancer.

The nurses at the hospital told us before we left for the night (which I did not want to do) the precise time her death would occur.

I have been sickened by this realization which I did not catch on to for a very long time, because of my frantic sorrow at that time, just as I have been bereft that I had to leave her there with noone ... because I was in a strange city in a different state, having been called by her husband as she had wanted me with her, and in the fog of that city, I was with people who never knew her as I had and they chose to go and wait in some kind of vigil at her house.

I could not join them and chose being alone. Besides the sudden death of my husband, nothing has affected me as deeply as that knowledge, that she was "palliatively" KILLED!

[Brian Kopp DPM]

Many med schools do not administer the Hippocratic Oath. Of those that do many use a modernistic version bereft of any traditional medical ethics references.

[trisham]

bump!

[verga]

Many med schools do not administer the Hippocratic Oath. Of those that do many use a modernistic version bereft of any traditional medical ethics references.

Okay that is just completely disturbing

[little jeremiah]

Sincere thanks to all of you for sharing your very personal accounts of the passing away of loved ones. Each person’s experiences add to the knowledge of how to support those who are close to death, and care for the ones doing the support.

[little jeremiah]

I love your tagline.

[Brian Kopp DPM]

Modern society in four words ;-)

[ladyjane]

go through a Catholic hospice and you will be sure that their palliative care is in alignment with the Catholic church’s guidance.

That was not my experience. Not at all.

[Madame Dufarge]

sfl

[Chickensoup]

I have had a number of people tell me that their family member was put to sleep with morphine in the same sort of scenerio and the family member feels terribly guilty and bad. Nurses tend to like to put patients to sleep. I would never leave an older person alone with a nurse. Always have family or private care nurse there.

There is no reason to put an unconscious person on morphine except to hasten death.

[little jeremiah]

That happened to my mother, under hospice care while at home. I was only one family member out of many, and could not influence anything. I did not realize at the time 100% what was happening, but knew somethings was Terribly Wrong.

[Vermont Lt]

I am sorry to hear that. My wife works at a catholic hospital and we’ve used their hospice services for elderly relatives. They were in nursing homes, so that might make a difference.

The care we received for our loved ones was superb. They allowed them to pass without pain, and adhering to their wishes regarding their final days.

I wish everyone that has to go through this, had the experience we had.