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Berlin 'abandons one million electric cars goal'
thelocal.de ^ | 30 Sep 12 07:30 CET

Posted on 09/30/2012 5:41:43 PM PDT by Olog-hai

The German government has abandoned its goal of having one million electric cars on the streets of the country by 2020.

"The hype is over," the Frankfurter Allgemeine Sonntagszeitung wrote, citing information from the Ministry of Education and Research. The high expectations for electric cars, which have no carbon dioxide emissions, has been replaced by huge disappointment, the paper wrote. …

(Excerpt) Read more at thelocal.de ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Germany; Government
KEYWORDS: greenenergy

1 posted on 09/30/2012 5:41:46 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

>>which have no carbon dioxide emissions<<

Right, because they’re powered by unicorn farts, which contain no greenhouse gasses.


2 posted on 09/30/2012 5:46:12 PM PDT by Tea Party Terrorist (Your tattoo looks stupid.)
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To: Red Badger; steelyourfaith; GeronL

Ping.


3 posted on 09/30/2012 5:47:27 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Olog-hai
The high expectations for electric cars, which have no carbon dioxide emissions

...which have the same carbon dioxide emissions as the power plant used to generate the electricity...

4 posted on 09/30/2012 5:47:34 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: Vince Ferrer

now that they have shuttered their nukes


5 posted on 09/30/2012 5:49:14 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (Obama gives us the gift of downward mobility)
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To: NonValueAdded

And replacing them with coal fire electric plants.


6 posted on 09/30/2012 5:57:44 PM PDT by palmer (Jim, please bill me 50 cents for this completely useless post)
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To: Olog-hai

I looked up the fuel price in Germany, “only” about $5.50 usd/gal with diesel even less.

At those prices, electric doesn’t make sense, especially with the widespread availability of very economical diesels, something the EPA has kept away from us in the US.


7 posted on 09/30/2012 5:59:02 PM PDT by nascarnation (Defeat Baraq 2012. Deport Baraq 2013)
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To: nascarnation

“something the EPA has kept away from us in the US”

Yes...and No, my wife had a 2001 Beetle TDI that got about 52 mpg during the summer on non-blended fuel.

Diesel is a beautiful thing.


8 posted on 09/30/2012 6:02:44 PM PDT by Puckster
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To: nascarnation

Where did you look that up? That’d have to be one rapid drop in fuel prices, from €1.70 per liter ($8.27/US gallon) back in August down to €1.13 per liter.


9 posted on 09/30/2012 6:09:19 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Army Air Corps

Because it makes no sense to stop and recharge every 35 minutes. It is not economically feasible.


10 posted on 09/30/2012 6:12:39 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Olog-hai

They were pushing electric cars in Barcelona a couple of weeks ago. Huge dsplay outside nesr the marina. Hardly any interest, none on the streets driven.

We rented a “Leon” for a drive to SW France. The cost of gas was a negligable portion of that excursion.


11 posted on 09/30/2012 6:19:06 PM PDT by cicero2k
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To: Vince Ferrer
..which have the same carbon dioxide emissions as the power plant used to generate the electricity...

Even more, since the energy that reaches the outlet the car plugs into is only about 45% of the fossil energy put into the electric plant.

12 posted on 09/30/2012 6:23:43 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: cicero2k

There was a news item on network tv this weekend about how the Nissan Leaf has a severely reduced range in the desert heat of Arizona, according to an owner who settled with Nissan. The reality of electric cars is slowly seeping to the surface as sales fail to develop, even from Sierra Club members and Obama’s supporters.


13 posted on 09/30/2012 6:28:22 PM PDT by Avid Coug
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To: Avid Coug
There was a news item on network tv this weekend about how the Nissan Leaf has a severely reduced range in the desert heat of Arizona

Yeah, but at least you'll get hugged by a polar bear.


14 posted on 09/30/2012 6:29:46 PM PDT by dfwgator (I'm voting for Ryan and that other guy.)
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To: Olog-hai

Vot? Joo kahnt bild dem so goot? Dot iss to bod! No vun weel buy dem? Ha, ha! You silly Chermans.

OUR mahn obama vill choe you how to do it, no? He iss a jean-yoos in bilding dem! Joo know nah ting uff vot he noase!

Joo vait und zee!


15 posted on 09/30/2012 6:29:51 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: Olog-hai

http://money.cnn.com/pf/features/lists/global_gasprices/

(realizing it’s a flawed source)


16 posted on 09/30/2012 6:31:41 PM PDT by nascarnation (Defeat Baraq 2012. Deport Baraq 2013)
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To: Olog-hai

If there were affordable, reliable and efficient alternatives to oil WE’D BE USING THEM.

But there aren’t, and wishing doesn’t make it so.


17 posted on 09/30/2012 6:32:42 PM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: Olog-hai

Hilarious comments at the end of the article at the site. At least the ones at the end have a brain. They are probably FReepers. Ha, ha!

So why does the so called auto industry need government subsidies? Electric cars should be cheaper to produce but somehow cost more! Greedy bastards!
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10:46 September 30, 2012 by smart2012
Until German car makers lobby will keep giving electric cars the last priority and will keep launching super powerful diesel cars, forget in Germany they can talk about electric cars. I was on vacation in italy and i was amazed how many more hybrid cars there are than in Germany..
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12:13 September 30, 2012 by The-ex-pat
Electric cars = low or no tax = loss of tax revenue = bad news for the government.

Internal combustion engine = fuel tax, engine size tax and emission tax = government dream.

Green technology = lets make it expensive as possible for the buyer = licence to print money = a very, very greedy green industry that is only in it for the money = no real morals as far as the environment is concerned = pulled the wool over everyone eyes and now laying in the sun by the pool on the profits.
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16:31 September 30, 2012 by IchBinKönig
hahaha. yeah, the problem with electric cars is greed! hahahaha
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19:48 September 30, 2012 by tercel
Now that Germany is shutting down it’s nuclear power plants just where is all that electricity to recharge the batteries in all those electric cars going to come from?

Solar and wind can not support the current electrical needs of the public, now you are going to siphon off much needed electricity to recharge car batteries. Can you say rolling brown outs and black outs and extremely high electric bills?
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00:52 October 1, 2012 by Eric1
My neighbors across the street have the Nissan Leaf. What an energy hog that thing is, their electric bill has gone way up and they can go that far without having to plug in again.

No thanks, I keep using my energy efficient gasoline car.


18 posted on 09/30/2012 6:34:36 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: nascarnation

They must have omitted some of the taxes. That would really distort things, especially since pump prices there and here usually include all taxes.


19 posted on 09/30/2012 6:35:50 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

I apologize for quoting CNN, LOL


20 posted on 09/30/2012 6:44:40 PM PDT by nascarnation (Defeat Baraq 2012. Deport Baraq 2013)
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To: Olog-hai

The Germans shouldn’t have caved into common sense so soon. Government Motors will be having a fire sale (pun intended) of Volts to clear up the backlog very soon. Since the union contract calls for the volt production workers to be paid regardless if they are selling cars, they will need to find a place to unload them on the QT. Since Germany and Europe are far from the US they would seem to be ideal. Chevy Volts for 1,000 Euros.


21 posted on 09/30/2012 7:22:58 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (God is a victim of identity theft by anointed progressive academics and intellectuals)
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“Since Germany and Europe are far from the US they would seem to be ideal. Chevy Volts for 1,000 Euros.”

Actually, I think Iran would be a great market for the excess Volts. Ahmanutjob assures us he just wants nukes to make electricity. There is your gov’t. subsidized source of fuel for the Volts. Unless he wastes all that nuke fuel on a couple bombs.


22 posted on 09/30/2012 8:43:57 PM PDT by Avid Coug
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