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Calif. woman fatally shot after allegedly driving into border patrol agent
Yahoo ^ | 09-30-2012 | By REENA NINAN

Posted on 09/30/2012 6:19:19 PM PDT by Carbonsteel

Authorities are investigating the fatal shooting of a 32-year-old woman in the suburban San Diego area after she allegedly hit a Border Patrol agent with her car.

Investigators said Valeria Alvarado ran down the agent with her car as border patrol agents were in a Chula Vista neighborhood to serve a felony warrant on Friday.

The agent said he had no choice but to defend himself and fired at Alvarado get her to stop the car.

Alvarado was hit by five bullets.

According to eye witnesses, the shooting left the mother of five with bullet holes in her face, arms, and chest.

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"Alvarado's husband, Gilbert Alvarado said he wants the shooting investigated.

"I want justice. Yes. Whoever shot my wife, that guy whoever that is, that guy needs to get shot," he said."

Typical, turn the victim into the criminal and the criminal into the victim. This women ran this officer down and then failed to stop even with the guy still on her hood!

What kind of woman does this?

1 posted on 09/30/2012 6:19:25 PM PDT by Carbonsteel
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To: Carbonsteel

“”Where’s the evidence that my wife threatened a trained officer? You know? He’s a trained officer to use lethal force, shoot my wife like that and just not even call an ambulance?” said Gilbert Alvarado. “

* Where’s the evidence? Oh..how about using a Fing’ car to kill a border patrol agent, you (expletive). Never had any sympathy for lawbreakers, especially dead ones.


2 posted on 09/30/2012 6:30:19 PM PDT by max americana (Make the world a better place by punching a liberal in the face)
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To: Carbonsteel

“What kind of woman does this? “

An illegal alien!!!

There are thousands of them in the ares!


3 posted on 09/30/2012 6:35:29 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: Liz; La Lydia; AuntB

One-less-illegal-alien PING


4 posted on 09/30/2012 6:35:35 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Carbonsteel

Tip #1 to living a long life:

“Don’t try to run down Law Enforcement Officers with your car.”

(She failed the test)


5 posted on 09/30/2012 6:36:33 PM PDT by canuck_conservative
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To: Carbonsteel
The shooting occurred about five miles north of the Mexican border as plainclothes agents were looking to serve a felony warrant in the area to someone other than Alvarado, Border Patrol Deputy Chief Rodney Scott told U-T San Diego.

I wonder how they identified themselves? I would panic if I saw armed men that were not in uniform trying to stop me

6 posted on 09/30/2012 6:40:19 PM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: Carbonsteel
She drove several hundred yards down the street with the agent on the hood before he shot her. I'm fairly certain this will reach the threshold for lethal force in the CBP use of force policy.

It isn't being reported, but the southern border is heating up significantly. There's going to be a lot more shooting.

7 posted on 09/30/2012 6:42:20 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: Carbonsteel

I know a guy who was walking with his girlfriend years ago. A van suddenly accelerated and headed straight for them. They jumped out of the way and the van crashed into something. The guy grabbed the guy in the van and started yelling at him. It turned out that the guy had a seizure.

So things are not always as they appear.


8 posted on 09/30/2012 6:44:07 PM PDT by Revel
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To: USNBandit

Good thing he didn’t have Janet’s beanbags instead of bullets. HE would have been the one in the bodybag.


9 posted on 09/30/2012 6:44:29 PM PDT by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: Carbonsteel

Gilbert needs to go to prison for advocating the death of a Federal agent doing his job properly. Now.


10 posted on 09/30/2012 6:57:49 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: Revel

I wouldn’t be surprised if this wasn’t just a case of woman hits pedestrian and was decided to hit and run. That seems fairly common these days. Unfortunately, for her she hit a guy that was armed and didn’t want to get flung off the hood at speed.


11 posted on 09/30/2012 6:58:32 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: Tennessee Nana

Yeah, but she left 5 (probably) american children behind. They just are multiplying like crazy! And this is how we will lose our country!


12 posted on 09/30/2012 7:05:04 PM PDT by jcsjcm (This country was built on exceptionalism and individualism. In God we Trust - Laus Deo)
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To: Irenic
I wonder how they identified themselves? I would panic if I saw armed men that were not in uniform trying to stop me .

Facts not in evidence.
I see nothing in the (poorly written) report that the 'armed' men were focused on her, or even that the men were displaying drawn weapons.

I have seen heavily armed men crossing a street, and the only gesture I saw was to stop.
I stopped.
They crossed the street towards their intended target.

The end.

13 posted on 09/30/2012 7:05:58 PM PDT by publius911 (Formerly Publius 6961, formerly jennsdad)
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To: Carbonsteel

Yes, because border agents regularly run up to cars driven by females and shoot them for nothing. (snicker) Of course, that’s the story that the media and the racist pressure groups will try to spread. I didn’t catch the name of the agent involved. From what I see on the reality shows, a great many agents appear to be of Mexican or Hispanic descent. No agent is going to walk up to a vehicle and start shooting for no reason.


14 posted on 09/30/2012 7:12:35 PM PDT by driftless2
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To: Carbonsteel
If a PLAIN-CLOTHES Hispanic police officer in a high-crime border area jumps on the hood of your car and points a gun at you, would you be more likely to think that you were being kidnapped, or that there was a PLAIN-CLOTHES police officer on your hood?
15 posted on 09/30/2012 7:20:07 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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To: jcsjcm

Not knowing the citizenship of mother and father one must keep in mind that the American children will someday be able to seek revenge/retribution by running for POTUSA - according to only the birth place deciding eligibility.


16 posted on 09/30/2012 8:04:58 PM PDT by noinfringers2
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To: Carbonsteel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pvp5dugGnkk&feature=player_embedded


17 posted on 09/30/2012 8:21:36 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: USNBandit

” - - - She drove several hundred yards down the street with the agent on the hood before he shot her.”

Since she was in such a hurry to get home, one has to ask: “What was she hiding in her house?”


18 posted on 09/30/2012 8:38:05 PM PDT by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: Carbonsteel

When officers are in the right, I side with them. I’d have done the same thing, officer, or not. Someone is trying to run me down with a car, I am in mortal danger.


19 posted on 09/30/2012 8:49:21 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Carbonsteel

“He’s a trained officer to use lethal force, shoot my wife like that and just not even call an ambulance?” said Gilbert Alvarado. “

Well, in these parts, we generally don’t call for an ambulance for the DEAD.


20 posted on 09/30/2012 9:47:21 PM PDT by Gator113 (I would have voted for NEWT, now it's Ryan and the other guy.~Just livin' life, my way~)
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To: Carbonsteel
Think I'll withhold judgement until a reliable report of the incident is available.

At this stage all we have is the official approved version.

Flashback

According to Virginia State Police, at approximately 10 a.m. Thursday, Culpeper Police got a call about a suspicious women sitting in a Jeep Wrangler in a church parking lot in the 300 block of North East Street. The officer started talking to Patricia A. Cook, 54, of Culpeper. State police say that for some reason, while the officer was trying to get her identification, Cook “suddenly closed her driver’s side window trapping the officer’s arm and started driving away dragging the officer alongside.”

Police say the officer repeatedly asked her to stop but the car kept going. Then shots were fired, and the Jeep wrecked in the 200 block of North East Street.

Culpeper officer indicted for murder in woman’s shooting


21 posted on 09/30/2012 10:24:57 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Monarchy is the one system of government where power is exercised for the good of all - Aristotle)
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To: Oztrich Boy

Thanks, I remember that one.

And there was a similar shooting of a father that would run at the school track early in the morning. Tried to search for it but no luck (a year ago?).


22 posted on 09/30/2012 10:38:00 PM PDT by 21twelve (So I [God] gave them over to their stubborn hearts to follow their own devices. Psalm 81:12)
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To: Carbonsteel

Look at the windshield. That tells you what you need to know. She hit him hard enough for the impact of his body to crush in the windshield.


23 posted on 09/30/2012 10:58:05 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: driftless2
Agent Hood Ornament apparently. A good ending with a bad taste.
24 posted on 09/30/2012 11:06:35 PM PDT by Domangart
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
If a PLAIN-CLOTHES Hispanic police officer in a high-crime border area jumps on the hood of your car and points a gun at you, would you be more likely to think that you were being kidnapped, or that there was a PLAIN-CLOTHES police officer on your hood?

I would KNOW I'm being jacked by a moron because a cop would NEVER jump on the hood of a running car, lol!

It will be interesting to see what further information comes out about this shooting. Clearly, this woman screwed up, fatally. She did SOMETHING wrong, because a cop doesn't walk up to an arbitrary person in a car and murder them in cold blood for no reason, in front of witnesses. This looks to me - - with the limited info available - - like an attempted hit-and-run.

25 posted on 09/30/2012 11:29:38 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Tennessee Nana; AuntB; La Lydia; TADSLOS; Grampa Dave; Condor51
Alvarado's husband said he wants the shooting investigated. "I want justice," he said."

Translated into Third World Spanglish, that means, "Finally, I win da 'border lottery.' An' if I get enough "justice," I kin stop stealing and selling drugs."

26 posted on 10/01/2012 3:40:06 AM PDT by Liz ("Come quickly, I'm tasting the stars." Dom Perignon)
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To: Liz
*** "Finally, I win da 'border lottery.' An' if I get enough "justice," I kin stop stealing and selling drugs." ***

Hubby better watch his step or he'll start drawing attention from the cops. And whatever cartel he's working for won't like that and will whack him like a rabid mutt.

27 posted on 10/01/2012 4:09:55 AM PDT by Condor51 (Si vis pacem, para bellum.)
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To: Condor51

Yeah, true——them drug lords’ trigger fingers get sap-happy when they think they’re being cheated.


28 posted on 10/01/2012 4:18:36 AM PDT by Liz ("Come quickly, I'm tasting the stars." Dom Perignon)
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To: Irenic
I wonder how they identified themselves? I would panic if I saw armed men that were not in uniform trying to stop me

Ditto. This over-use of "plainclothes" agents needs to stop. If I see a guy in scuzzy clothes waving a gun at me, I'm going to assume I'm under attack by a criminal and that I need to use deadly force.

29 posted on 10/01/2012 4:43:25 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Charlie Daniels - Payback Time http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWwTJj_nosI)
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To: Irenic
Another article disputes the official version:
Witnesses in the area at the time of the shooting told NBC 7 San Diego they saw Alvarado slowly driving in reverse as the agent opened fire on her at least six times.

"As the car was backing up the officer was in the street walking toward the car, and discharging,” recalled witness Prince Watson.

“I heard it, ‘Pow, pow,’ and just told my family to get down,” said witness Ayanna Evans.

Witnesses believe Alvarado may have accidentally struck the agent and panicked when he told her to stop and pulled out his gun.

They said the agent was in plain clothes and was not displaying a badge.

In this version, the (plainclothes) officer was not on the hood. It should be easy to determine the correct version. If the officer shot from the hood of the car, there should be powder residue on the windshield.
30 posted on 10/01/2012 4:54:32 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Charlie Daniels - Payback Time http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWwTJj_nosI)
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To: Carbonsteel

"She chose...poorly"


31 posted on 10/01/2012 4:57:18 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (I'm not voting for Obama, so therefore I must be helping Romney!)
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To: Carbonsteel
On my Latest Posts page at about 8AM EST, the thread just before this one was titled "California allows driver's licenses for young undocumented immigrants."

Well, the next time an illegal runs down a BP agent or any other citizen, perhaps they will be legally licensed to operate a motor vehicle.

32 posted on 10/01/2012 5:08:55 AM PDT by citizen (America is at an awkward stage...Too late to work within the system, too early to shoot the bastards)
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To: Irenic

Every operation I went on with my federal colleagues, there was an operations order written, of which I have written a few myself.

In that operations order are checklists. One of those checklists specifically delineates what the officers/agents are to be wearing during the operation. During search/arrest warrants they are MANDATED to have outer garments that prominently display whatever law enforcement agency they represent but the most common is just “POLICE” on both front and back, as well as a badge.

Even when we were on plain clothes surveillance we had to have those garments within reach in case the op went bad.


33 posted on 10/01/2012 5:46:45 AM PDT by Molon Labbie (Prep. Now. Live Healthy, take your Shooting Iron daily.)
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To: Molon Labbie

Hopefully they were wearing such. Because honestly, I would panic and not likely follow directions of a man in plain clothes. Especially that close to the border.


34 posted on 10/01/2012 6:08:57 AM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: Carbonsteel

“”I want justice. Yes. Whoever shot my wife, that guy whoever that is, that guy needs to get shot,” he said.”

Typical, turn the victim into the criminal and the criminal into the victim. This women ran this officer down and then failed to stop even with the guy still on her hood!

What kind of woman does this? “

What kind? The kind that makes excuses for all their criminal deeds. The kind that jumps the border with total disregard for our laws.

That’s what kind!


35 posted on 10/01/2012 7:58:13 AM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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