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Innocence of Muslims Film was Made by Terrorists
Walid Shoebat ^ | September 27, 2012 | Walid Shoebat

Posted on 09/30/2012 6:50:06 PM PDT by Former Proud Canadian

When it comes to the film Innocence of Muslims, our government and the media uses a narrative mired in contradictions and false statements provided by the filmmaker, who himself is an untrustworthy source.

If we stick to what can be proven we might obtain the possibility that terror supporters produced the film. Muhammad Al Dura and Pallywood are two cases in point showing the type of stunts used by Palestinian terrorists.

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Court documents reveal that Nakoula Bacile Nakoula, producer of the movie Innocence of Muslims, partnered in a scheme with Eiad Salameh, my first cousin.

Eiad is a Muslim terror supporter and is not an Egyptian Copt.

(Excerpt) Read more at shoebat.com ...


TOPICS: Israel; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: libya; movie; shoebat; terrorism; walidshoebat
Long article, but very interesting and introduces some important information. Shoebat knows the perps of this film. They are Palestinian "activists". Nakoula could be a double agent, a US government employee. Worth reading.
1 posted on 09/30/2012 6:50:12 PM PDT by Former Proud Canadian
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To: Former Proud Canadian

bkmk


2 posted on 09/30/2012 6:57:00 PM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

3 posted on 09/30/2012 7:10:49 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

I would bet Nakoula made the film for the current administration who have secretly partnered with the Muslim Brotherhood to bring about the downfall of America which stands in the way of a one world government due to the fact it has always been a Christian nation (the only one) that has stood by Israel’s side. These two nations have always (until of late) stood together against much of the evil of the world. With them out of the way the ascension of the Islamic new world order can take place which is headed by the false god, Allah (Satan). The false prophet spoken of in the bible (Revelation) could well be Mohammad.


4 posted on 09/30/2012 7:13:10 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: Travis McGee

Damn that is GOOD. That should be on every refrigerator in the USA...lol


5 posted on 09/30/2012 7:15:12 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: jsanders2001

That’s my goal. Good wallpaper/screensaver too. Share it around if it pleases you.


6 posted on 09/30/2012 7:17:44 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Former Proud Canadian
Palestinian propaganda technique is generally amateurish and clumsily overstated.

A classic example is the photograph of an elderly Palestinian lady, on the ground, sobbing, her arms wrapped around the base of an olive tree that has been "wrecked". An Israeli patrol is sitting in a jeep, looking on. Actually, the olive tree has been severely pruned -- which is a common (and necessary) practice to enhance production.

The claim was that the IDF had destroyed the olive orchard as punishment for the Palestinian peasants. It was a complete fake -- but the western media outlets swallowed it hook, line and sinker, being too stupid to recognize the difference between pruning and "destroying". Or, if they knew better, knowingly spun the story so that it would be positive for the Palestinians.

Palestinian propaganda is directed toward the western (liberal) media -- openly exploiting the media's ignorance and liberal pre-dispositions.

The Innocence of Muslims has the same odor about it -- amateurish, clumsy, overblown. It's very conceivable that Shoebat's theory is correct -- produced by Palestinians masquerading as Copts (or Jews) solely for the purpose of creating a pro-Arab cause celebre using the liberal media (and the Obama administration) as willing handmaidens.

One might even wonder if the Obama administration was in on the ruse from the start. Or, perhaps, even conceived the scheme as a means of advancing its own agenda. There has been a lot more attention paid to the production than it actually warrants...

7 posted on 09/30/2012 7:21:56 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA; Ignorance on parade.)
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To: okie01

Interesting thoughts and I agree your theory is quite possible and makes more sense than believing that was a serious film.

However, I would disagree with you about the Obama administration being part of it. This administration is so inept, I don’t even believe they could make a movie. They were caught with their pants around their ankles during campaign season.


8 posted on 09/30/2012 7:43:46 PM PDT by volunbeer (We must embrace austerity or austerity will embrace us)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

This is looking so like Fast and Furious, it is not funny. In fact nothing about 0bama is funny any more.


9 posted on 09/30/2012 7:45:44 PM PDT by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR!)
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To: Travis McGee
Absolutely outstanding, Travis! I snagged it, of course. Just from my personal point of view, I will also never surrender Yeats, Tennyson, or Milton.

I will never surrender Patrick Henry, Tom Paine, or Charles Carroll of Carrollton.

I will never surrender Churchill, Chesterton or C.S. Lewis.

I will never surrender my brave ancestors, many of whom came to this country in coffin ships as refugees from An Gorta Mor, one of whom, a refugee of the Highland Clearances, served in the Revolution, two of whom served in the War Between the States, a cadre of whom served in WWII, several of whom served in Korea, my father, a three war veteran of the U.S. Navy, numerous cousins who served in 'Nam, and I certainly won't surrender myself and my children to these evil cultists!



Genuflectimus non ad principem sed ad Principem Pacis!

Listen, O isles, unto me; and hearken, ye people, from far; The LORD hath called me from the womb; from the bowels of my mother hath he made mention of my name. (Isaiah 49:1 KJV)

10 posted on 09/30/2012 7:46:29 PM PDT by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines RVN 1969 - St. Michael the Archangel defend us in Battle!)
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To: Travis McGee
Share it around if it pleases you.

Thanks, done.

11 posted on 09/30/2012 7:48:47 PM PDT by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: jsanders2001
Well, yeah. The inference is that Nakoula was a Palestinian terrorist? fixer? wiseguy? Maybe an agent of US government intel or dhs. Would you put anything past these guys?

I don't know where this goes. You are a little ahead of things, I think.

12 posted on 09/30/2012 8:01:51 PM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (Obamanomics-We don't need your stinking tar sands oil, we'll just grow algae.)
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To: Travis McGee

Tell it.


13 posted on 09/30/2012 8:02:42 PM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (Obamanomics-We don't need your stinking tar sands oil, we'll just grow algae.)
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To: Travis McGee

>> I will never submit to a barbaric death cult masquerading as a religion

Islam is a war plan.


14 posted on 09/30/2012 8:07:20 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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bump to other pc


15 posted on 09/30/2012 8:08:17 PM PDT by Tunehead54 (Nothing funny here ;-)
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To: volunbeer
However, I would disagree with you about the Obama administration being part of it. This administration is so inept, I don’t even believe they could make a movie. They were caught with their pants around their ankles during campaign season.

I wouldn't call the administration inept. Rather, I'd call it deceitful, antagonistic and corrupt -- and very sophisticated politically. I'm not speaking of Obama, but of the network behind him.

There is, withhout a doubt, back-channel contact with the Muslim Brotherhood. William Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn, plus SEIU representatives, were in Cairo prior to the Arab Spring uprising -- schooling MB leadership in the use of social media to motivate and organize their rabble.

The administration's insistence on citing the video trailer suggests some kind of investment (not necessarily financial) in the project. I suspect they intended to utilize Innocence of Muslims in some manner, relative to the embassy protests across the Middle East. But they were surpised by the concurrent al-Qaeda attack on the Libyan consulate and the resultant deaths. That wasn't part of the plan.

Given that Fast & Furious was obviously part of a plot to curb the Second Amendment, would it surprise you if Innocence of Muslims was part of a complicated plot to erode the First Amendment?

16 posted on 09/30/2012 8:09:51 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA; Ignorance on parade.)
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To: ConorMacNessa

I juggled the lists around for a while. I didn’t want any religious figures, political figures, or anybody before Mad Mo, since they could be distractions for various reasons.

I just wanted to focus on Western Civ, basically, that would all be erased by “Allahu Akbar, and” fill in the barbarism.

Very hard to narrow down the artists, so the three in each group are just stand-ins for all of them.

Imagine, no more images of living things....burn all the Rembrandts! No more music....no more Mozart!

That is the future under the caliphate. Our cowardly leaders are always going to appease and accomodate, so it’s up to US to say HELL NO!


17 posted on 09/30/2012 8:10:18 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: okie01
The Innocence of Muslims has the same odor about it -- amateurish, clumsy, overblown. It's very conceivable that Shoebat's theory is correct -- produced by Palestinians masquerading as Copts (or Jews) solely for the purpose of creating a pro-Arab cause celebre using the liberal media (and the Obama administration) as willing handmaidens.

Well, yes.

One might even wonder if the Obama administration was in on the ruse from the start. Or, perhaps, even conceived the scheme as a means of advancing its own agenda. There has been a lot more attention paid to the production than it actually warrants...

Yes. False flag, the whole thing. This trailer has been sitting on the internet for months, waiting for the right time to use it. Obama et. al. instituted the "big lie". Tell it loud enough, long enough and people will believe anything.

18 posted on 09/30/2012 8:12:24 PM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (Obamanomics-We don't need your stinking tar sands oil, we'll just grow algae.)
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To: Travis McGee
Amen, FRiend!



Genuflectimus non ad principem sed ad Principem Pacis!

Listen, O isles, unto me; and hearken, ye people, from far; The LORD hath called me from the womb; from the bowels of my mother hath he made mention of my name. (Isaiah 49:1 KJV)

19 posted on 09/30/2012 8:14:06 PM PDT by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines RVN 1969 - St. Michael the Archangel defend us in Battle!)
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To: SubMareener

No, it’s starting to look like Watergate times 1,000.


20 posted on 09/30/2012 8:15:16 PM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (Obamanomics-We don't need your stinking tar sands oil, we'll just grow algae.)
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To: okie01

I’m coming to realize that the muslim brotherhood reaches to the top of the Obama administration. How about Houma at State? Do you think she knows some mb boys?


21 posted on 09/30/2012 8:20:07 PM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (Obamanomics-We don't need your stinking tar sands oil, we'll just grow algae.)
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To: okie01
The administration's insistence on citing the video trailer suggests some kind of investment (not necessarily financial) in the project. I suspect they intended to utilize Innocence of Muslims in some manner, relative to the embassy protests across the Middle East. But they were surpised by the concurrent al-Qaeda attack on the Libyan consulate and the resultant deaths. That wasn't part of the plan.

I think you are right.

Given that Fast & Furious was obviously part of a plot to curb the Second Amendment, would it surprise you if Innocence of Muslims was part of a complicated plot to erode the First Amendment?

No, but I think there is more to it than that. On another note, Romney should be able to knock this one out of the park.

22 posted on 09/30/2012 8:25:10 PM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (Obamanomics-We don't need your stinking tar sands oil, we'll just grow algae.)
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To: Former Proud Canadian
How about Houma at State? Do you think she knows some mb boys?

Huma's entire family has been active in the Muslim Brotherhood -- father, mother and brother.

23 posted on 09/30/2012 8:28:31 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA; Ignorance on parade.)
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To: okie01

The fact that Obama’s people immediately and adamantly blamed the attack on an obscure, amateurish film, and then held onto that strategy too long, would certainly suggest the Obamunists were in on the exploitation of the film ahead of time. Its like they showed up with a “can’t lose” game plan, and kept running it according to script when it was obvious to everyone in the stands that it wasn’t going to work.


24 posted on 09/30/2012 8:30:16 PM PDT by Avid Coug
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To: Former Proud Canadian
Well if this Nakoula Bacile Nakoula or whatever is truly anti-Islam or some kind of trouble maker that whoever does not like.. well all I can think of is..

Did someone say Irv Rubin? Rubin of course was nothing like this Nakoula scoundrel, his crime was being a Zionist. He too was jailed in Los Angeles county.

". . . while imprisoned at the Metropolitan Detention Center in Los Angeles . . . Rubin allegedly cut his own throat with a jail-issued safety razor and tumbled off an 18- to 20-foot balcony. The injuries from the fall resulted in his death at Los Angeles County Hospital several days later."

As I recall he had been permitted out of his cell to join the usual line of prisoners for breakfast.. there among the prisoners he suddenly slit his throat, climbed over the railing and dived off the tier.

You should read how Eric Holder and the fed boys described Salt Lake City attorney Jesse Trentadue's brother's suicide. Their description must have been inspired by a Looney Tune movie cartoon they way they had him ricocheting around his cell leaving patches of blood on the walls before succeeding in hanging himself.

25 posted on 09/30/2012 8:35:35 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: okie01

I agree. The administration is in this up to it’s eyeballs. Note how the Egyptian embassy had a message prepared about the trailer when no one had even heard of the thing and that it hadn’t gone viral until later after the riots started.


26 posted on 09/30/2012 8:41:28 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (God is a victim of identity theft by anointed progressive academics and intellectuals)
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To: Travis McGee

Bravo


27 posted on 09/30/2012 8:47:26 PM PDT by FlyingEagle
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To: Former Proud Canadian
" Shoebat knows the perps of this film. They are Palestinian "activists". Nakoula could be a double agent, a US government/Obama campaign PAID employee. " ......

There now, fixed, perhaps more to the truth...
28 posted on 09/30/2012 8:48:05 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: okie01

I think so too. AQ found out about the ruse (maybe by word of mouth or maybe tipped off by the MB) and used it to their advantage to attack the consulate. The ruse was needed to change the subject from the economy to foreign affairs where Romney would be at a disadvantage. Muslims would be screaming in the streets and obama would come to the rescue of this manufactured crisis. This sounds just like obama. Well, the ruse went terribly wrong.


29 posted on 09/30/2012 8:55:06 PM PDT by virgil
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To: Travis McGee

wow ..... I’m ready to stand up and cheer after reading that!


30 posted on 09/30/2012 9:04:10 PM PDT by Scotswife
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To: Former Proud Canadian
If the press and media had more journalistic integrity there would be less of people going wild in speculation.
And just think ? this was suppose to be the most transparent Administration in history.


Barrack Obama " ‘The only people who don’t want to disclose the truth are those with something to hide.”’ .....


31 posted on 09/30/2012 9:07:00 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: okie01

We’ve seen this ruse many times in our own country - how many stories have we seen of someone “finding” a noose. A big hoopla breaks out.
And then a few months later there is small article on the 10th page that the person was arrested for planting the noose themselves.

Hmmmm.....it’s almost like - the muzzies are taking cues from american racemongers.


32 posted on 09/30/2012 9:09:58 PM PDT by Scotswife
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To: Former Proud Canadian
" One might even wonder if the Obama administration was in on the ruse from the start. Or, perhaps, even conceived the scheme as a means of advancing its own agenda. There has been a lot more attention paid to the production than it actually warrants... "


Sounds like the people on Saturday Night Live have material for a new skit.

Disclaimer:

( Under the fair use act of using not so satire, satire, and under the fair use act of using my 1st Amendment right of Free Speech ).....

Conspiracy theory satire tin foil hat on.

( Innocence of Muslims Film ) .... and I Barrack Obama approve this message... Innocents of Muslims Film Paid for by Re-election Obama 2012....
33 posted on 09/30/2012 9:10:56 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: Travis McGee
Our cowardly leaders are always going to appease and accomodate, so it’s up to US to say HELL NO!

HELL NO! I'd rather die on my feet than be beheaded by those *bleeps*. And with my mouth, that's what's coming.

34 posted on 09/30/2012 9:15:15 PM PDT by SCalGal (Friends don't let friends donate to H$U$, A$PCA, or PETA.)
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To: Former Proud Canadian
Didn't you hear about the news ? that is ? if the news reports are reliable, that Chinese hackers managed to hack into the White Hut office into the military office for Nuclear Commands....

Here is a Excerpt : ( Hackers linked to China’s government broke into one of the U.S. government’s most sensitive computer networks, breaching a system used by the White House Military Office for nuclear commands, according to defense and intelligence officials familiar with the incident. )Excerpt.

Free Republic Link:Hackers linked to China’s government broke into one of the U.S. government’s most sensitive computer networks

If this proves to be true ( that is ? if the press and media did their jobs ) then ? what name would be named of this scandal ?

Fumble the FootballGate ?
Open the gate for Chinese hackers gate ?
StupidGate ?
35 posted on 09/30/2012 9:19:13 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: Avid Coug
" The fact that Obama’s people immediately and adamantly blamed the attack on an obscure, amateurish film, and then held onto that strategy too long " .... and don't forget, he proclaimed to the whole world at the UN, and condemned this so called " FILM " in front of the whole world, so they can't use the excuse that it was some little mistake.
He went on and used this so called " FILM " to proclaim to the world that slandering the prophet Mohammed will not be tolerated, that the future does not belong to those who slander Islam.
36 posted on 09/30/2012 9:25:00 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: Former Proud Canadian

I was wondering why the filmmaker would try to hide what the movie was about from his actors, and just dub in the anti-Muhammed stuff later. Why treat the project as a “secret plan” like that? And if the guy was truly an enthusiastic member of the Arab Christian community, would it have been that hard to find likeminded people willing to openly participate in the film? Especially since he wasn’t exactly using top-flight actors to begin with.


37 posted on 09/30/2012 9:29:06 PM PDT by JediJones (KARL ROVE: "And remember, this year, no one is seriously talking about ending abortion.")
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To: jsanders2001

It’s even more important that congresscritters put that on their refrigerators but I very much doubt that they understand what it means.


38 posted on 09/30/2012 9:30:13 PM PDT by 353FMG (The US Constitution is only as effective as those who enforce it.)
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To: Travis McGee
"Still, if you will not fight for the right when you can easily win without bloodshed; if you will not fight when your victory will be sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than live as slaves."

Winston Churchill

39 posted on 09/30/2012 10:03:05 PM PDT by Eagles6 (DNC 2012 Convention: Celebrating infanticide and sodomy. Denying God.What could possibly go wrong?)
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To: Former Proud Canadian
الحرائق (Reichstag hariq)--"Reichstag Fire" in Arabic
40 posted on 09/30/2012 10:27:46 PM PDT by Fiji Hill (Io Triumphe!)
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To: Former Proud Canadian


41 posted on 10/01/2012 1:36:27 AM PDT by Bon mots (Abu Ghraib: 47 Times on the front page of the NY Times | Benghazi: 2 Times)
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To: JediJones

I was wondering why the filmmaker would try to hide what the movie was about from his actors, and just dub in the anti-Muhammed stuff later. Why treat the project as a “secret plan” like that? And if the guy was truly an enthusiastic member of the Arab Christian community, would it have been that hard to find likeminded people willing to openly participate in the film? Especially since he wasn’t exactly using top-flight actors to begin with.

This is the reason I thought it sounded like a propaganda film especially when I learned about his criminal background and his ties to terrorist networks and his forging of false identification on a professional level. It smacks of someone acting in a covert / operative capacity.


42 posted on 10/01/2012 3:08:13 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: JediJones
This film was never intended to be released for commercial purposes. No one would pay to see it.

It was made for propaganda purposes only. This is a "false flag" operation. A classic.

So, the question of who these guys are, and who they are working for is of utmost importance. Find out who they are working for and you will discover who is using this film.

Obviously AQ is behind this operation. But why is Obama still sticking to the "big lie" that this film had anything to do with the riots? Very strange, and somewhat damning.

43 posted on 10/01/2012 4:54:52 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (Obamanomics-We don't need your stinking tar sands oil, we'll just grow algae.)
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44 posted on 10/01/2012 5:24:04 AM PDT by SJackson (none of this suggests there are hostile feelings for the US in Egypt, Victoria Nuland, State Dept)
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To: Former Proud Canadian; yorkie; kingattax

This is what we were discussing!


45 posted on 10/01/2012 5:41:27 AM PDT by left that other site (Worry is the Darkroom that Develops Negatives.)
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To: Travis McGee

Pure Western chauvenism and imperialism./sarc


46 posted on 10/01/2012 10:19:45 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: okie01
There is, withhout a doubt, back-channel contact with the Muslim Brotherhood. William Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn, plus SEIU representatives, were in Cairo prior to the Arab Spring uprising -- schooling MB leadership in the use of social media to motivate and organize their rabble.

I watched those riots and remarked to my wife that those riots remarkably resemble a 1967 anti-vietnam protest right down to the flag/effigy burning and throwing back the gas canisters. Later, I read Code Pink was there and instruction booklets printed in english and kindergarten arabic were litter on the ground--"how to protest".

47 posted on 10/01/2012 8:08:55 PM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: BerryDingle
I watched those riots and remarked to my wife that those riots remarkably resemble a 1967 anti-vietnam protest right down to the flag/effigy burning and throwing back the gas canisters. Later, I read Code Pink was there and instruction booklets printed in english and kindergarten arabic were litter on the ground--"how to protest".

So, what do we have here? Clear evidence that elements of the same radical network that is running Obama are deeply involved with organizing "Arab Spring". And they are working in harness with the Muslim Brotherhood.

We can assume that they are not altruistically promoting democracy for its own sake. So, how does the Arab Spring and the Muslim Brotherhood fit into their particular agenda? What's in it for them...and their thrall, Obama?

For one thing, their actions appear designed to isolate Israel -- a target of their "foreign policy".

For another, I suspect there is a lot of Arab money involved in funding the network's activities. Certainly, the Soviet Union money that initially funded their operation in the Viet Nam days would've steadily dried-up and finally disappeared in 1989. There is some evidence that money started flowing from Saudi radicals as early as 1979. Accordingly, the Arab Spring operation may be a kind of payback.

I suspect they also view the MB as an ally in their ongoing efforts to subvert and eventually control the US of A. To which end, I wonder if the lamentable Innocence of Muslims trailer and the 9/11 embassy protests weren't the beginning of a plot to erode the First Amendment. The al-Qaeda attack and casualties in Libya, however, serving as an unexpected complication, derailing the whole operation.

I'd welcome what you can add to these ruminations -- What exactly does the radical network in Chicago expect to gain from Arab Spring and a relationship with the Muslim? Brotherhood?

48 posted on 10/01/2012 9:01:44 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA; Ignorance on parade.)
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To: okie01
The al-Qaeda attack and casualties in Libya, however, serving as an unexpected complication, derailing the whole operation.

Exactly. Obama can only speak as fast as Valerie Jarrett can think. That caught them completely off guard.

Your whole reply is spot on, but your last question What exactly does the radical network in Chicago expect to gain from Arab Spring and a relationship with the Muslim? Brotherhood?If I could answer that, then I could tell you why liberal socialists want to destroy America.

49 posted on 10/02/2012 11:19:09 AM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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