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Toxic State Syndrome: As California Declines, Texas Rises
Daily Beast ^ | 09/30/2012 | Tom Gray

Posted on 09/30/2012 6:51:58 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

After World War II, California was where Americans went in search of a better life—the state with more jobs, more space, more sunlight, and more opportunity. But since 1990, Californians have gone elsewhere for opportunity, with the state losing a net of more than 3.7 million people to other states.

n the national recovery or slow slog since the economy bottomed out roughly three years ago, even California has regained some ground. As of this August, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, it has added more than a half million jobs since its payroll totals hit bottom around the end of 2009.

It seems natural these days to assume that the Golden State is the sick man of the U.S.—so if even California is coming back, however weakly, perhaps the recovery is real.

As recently as the 1980s, California still had the aura of an unstoppable growth machine, and such a view would have been unthinkable. Now, Texas is the object of economic envy and California is the object lesson, the toxic state.

It's a partisan narrative to be sure, with Republican-run Texas as a low-tax, right-to-work mecca for business. But propaganda aside, though, there is statistical reality to the idea that Texas is rising and California is falling back. In 2000, California’s jobless rate was 4.9%, while the Texas rate was 4.4%. Ten years later, that half-percentage-point gap had widened to more than four points: 12.4% to 8.2%. Texas is also adding more jobs than California, which has 50% more people.

These figures help explain the findings of a new study I conducted along with demographer Robert Scardamalia for the Manhattan Institute’s Center for State and Local Leadership, The Great California Exodus: A Closer Look. During the first decade of the 2000s, according to IRS data on the movement of income-tax filers, California saw a net loss of 635,000 people and aggregate income of $14.7 billion to just three states—Texas, Arizona and Nevada. Texas was the leading destination, with about 225,000 Californians relocating there.

At the beginning of the decade, when California and Texas were fairly close in job production, movement between the states was close to even. About 35,000 Texans moved to California between the 2000 and 2001 tax years, and slightly fewer than 42,000 Californians moved to Texas. Five years later, Texas had gained a lopsided advantage, gaining about 72,400 Californians while losing about 31,200 Texans to the Golden State. At the decade’s end, the recession had dampened migration in all directions—people are less prone to move when fewer jobs are available to attract them. But Texas remained the far more popular draw, attracting 48,900 Californians while losing just 33,900.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: California; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: california; texas

1 posted on 09/30/2012 6:52:04 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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2 posted on 09/30/2012 6:53:12 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (bOTRT)
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To: SeekAndFind

In a novel that takes place in 2020, an earthquake hits California but the US cannot afford to bail them out.


3 posted on 09/30/2012 6:54:16 PM PDT by Perdogg
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To: SeekAndFind

No —Texas is bad for CA health. Proven.


4 posted on 09/30/2012 6:54:37 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (0bama's agenda¬óDivide and conquer. FREEDOM OR FREE STUFF- YOU GET ONE CHOICE, CHOOSE WISELY)
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To: SeekAndFind

CA voters sadly bring their failed leftist politics with them.


5 posted on 09/30/2012 6:55:37 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: SeekAndFind
As recently as the 1980s

LOL! All my kids and grandkids happened between then and now.

Someone is pinin for the fjords.

/johnny

6 posted on 09/30/2012 7:01:27 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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In 20 years, Texas will be a basket case as it becomes California.


7 posted on 09/30/2012 7:02:06 PM PDT by dsrtsage (One half of all people have below average IQ. In the US the number is 54%)
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To: dsrtsage
In 20 years, Texas will be a basket case as it becomes California.

By that time California will be empty, and we'll start all over.

8 posted on 09/30/2012 7:05:09 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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9 posted on 09/30/2012 7:06:49 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (bOTRT)
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To: Vince Ferrer

10 posted on 09/30/2012 7:07:38 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (bOTRT)
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To: dsrtsage

I hope your wrong, because there is no route to a Republican presidential victory that doesn’t go through Texas.

If Texas falls to the Democrats... it’s over.


11 posted on 09/30/2012 7:08:29 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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12 posted on 09/30/2012 7:08:46 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (bOTRT)
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13 posted on 09/30/2012 7:09:47 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (bOTRT)
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To: dsrtsage
Texas will be a basket case as it becomes California.

You might want to bring a lunch.... I 'spect that might not be so easy as you would think.

/johnny

14 posted on 09/30/2012 7:10:00 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Vince Ferrer
By that time California will be empty, and we'll start all over.

Not with the millions of ILLEGALS coming in for all the freebies. It'll look like Tijuana in 5 years.

15 posted on 09/30/2012 7:11:13 PM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: Vince Ferrer

Relatively affluent retirees (or owners of vacation homes) move from California to Oregon and Nevada, while Texas gets more young families looking for economic opportunity.

Arizona has a mix of both types of ex-California migrant. Another type of IRS data, exemptions per return, supports this explanation. Returns of Californians bound for Texas average 2.21 exemptions, compared with 1.89 for those who went to Oregon, 1.98 for Nevada, and 2.07 for Arizona.

The ratios for returns of those moving to California were uniformly lower, ranging from 1.75 for those coming from Oregon to 1.88 for people leaving Texas. Those heading to the Golden State, in other words, tend to have fewer children than those who are leaving, or no children at all, or are singles.
16 posted on 09/30/2012 7:12:11 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (bOTRT)
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To: SeekAndFind
Kaleephornya is a zombie state. It has already died but still has a toxic effect on the remaining living souls.

It is toxic in every way and contagious beyond contemplation.

There is no cure.

There is no God to intervene and staunch the spread.

You the reader are doomed. It is coming for you.

17 posted on 09/30/2012 7:15:32 PM PDT by stboz
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CA has gone past the point of no return (tipping point). You are right, there is no cure. Just a matter of watching it on its freefall to imlplosion. When it lands, it will be a 3rd world pit.


18 posted on 09/30/2012 7:20:28 PM PDT by umgud (No Rats, No Rino's)
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To: JRandomFreeper

I doubt Texas will go as bad as quick as California did. Texas isn’t too far behind in the immigration-driven demographic transformation going on in California, but balancing that is the fact that whites in Texas are (as of now at least) a conservative group and they vote that way. Republicans routinely win over 70% of the white vote in Texas, and that is the reason why the GOP dominates Texas.

The problem of course is that on immigration the GOP has proven itself to be the stupid party; not for their alleged ‘harsh’ rhetoric or ‘anti-immigrant’ positions (afterall the GOP in Texas isn’t even all that conservative on immigration yet they still can’t win the latino vote there) that alienate Hispanics, but rather for allowing a policy of mass immigration that was always going to and always will favor the Democrats. Thanks to this stupidity, there will soon come a time in Texas where winning a vast majority of the white vote isn’t enough to carry the state.

When that happens Texas becomes a battleground state. I just don’t see a Calif-style collapse for the GOP in Texas anytime soon, but Texas becoming purple will be plenty enough a disaster for Republicans, and the country.

But again, what did we expect? A largely accidental, and mostly unwanted policy of unending mass immigration from non-white nations was always going to favor the Democrats.


19 posted on 09/30/2012 7:23:14 PM PDT by Aetius
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20 posted on 09/30/2012 7:27:53 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (bOTRT)
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To: TigerClaws

And their earthquakes. Texas just had two!


21 posted on 09/30/2012 7:27:55 PM PDT by Dogbert41 ("...The people of Jerusalem are strong, because the Lord Almighty is their God" Zech. 12:5)
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22 posted on 09/30/2012 7:29:31 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (bOTRT)
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To: dsrtsage

Texas and California have always been different and Texas has something that California never had, right wing Evangelicals.

Texas and California already have the same EXACT percentage of Hispanics today, and look at the difference.

Texans will fight to preserve Texas as a conservative, Christian state, Californians never much cared about such things, and were easy to push aside.


23 posted on 09/30/2012 7:30:32 PM PDT by ansel12 (exact)
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To: TigerClaws

There are exceptions.....
I’m a Goldwater Republican, moved from California to Texas two years ago to keep my job.
Never going back, no matter how good the weather.
That’s all Cali has going for it now.... the rest of it stinks.... no work... no sense....no responsibility.


24 posted on 09/30/2012 7:42:01 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: dsrtsage

See post #9, more went to Florida....


25 posted on 09/30/2012 7:44:58 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: TexasFreeper2009

“I hope your wrong, because there is no route to a Republican presidential victory that doesn’t go through Texas.
If Texas falls to the Democrats... it’s over.”

I’ve posted about this before, but it’s inevitable. Not something “that’s there right now”, of course not. But take a long look down the road, and....

It was several months ago an article was posted here on FR, containing the demographics of who IS BEING BORN in Texas hospitals.

Something like 70+% of the babies born are to non-white mothers, mostly Hispanic, many of them (if not most?) illegals. The white population of Texas isn’t having many babies, but the Hispanics are flooding the place with muchachos and muchachas.

Even if the parents are illegal, and can’t vote, EVERY one of the births in Texas to an illegal Hispanic mother produces AN AMERICAN CITIZEN (shouting intentional). No, they can’t vote today — but wait 20 years, and everything changes.

Demographically, in twenty years Hispanics are going to represent a much larger portion of Texas’ population than it does now — if not a majority, close to it. And we know how they’re going to vote.

Unless all these Hispanic kids move OUT of Texas, the mathematics of this is a certainty.

Look at New Mexico next door. It has now become the second state (California was first) in which Euros are now a minority. How have NM’s politics changed in the last decade? It may have once been more conservative, but now it’s a “leans blue” state, getting bluer....

I’m no happier about the reality of what’s happening than you are — it’s happened right here in the Connecticut city in which I live. Twenty years ago, this was a quiet, in-town neighborhood. It’s now been taken over by illegals, and it won’t be changing back. The house next to me was once just like mine, but has been converted into an “illegal hotel” and has 8 cars parked there.

Texas is the last “big state” that (for now) is reliably Republican, but what happens when those 55 electoral votes “go blue”? How will the Republicans win again?

That day is coming...


26 posted on 09/30/2012 7:49:19 PM PDT by Road Glide
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everything you said is completely true.

I have lived here my whole life and I barely recognize the place from what it was in my youth.

all the schools in my area are already nearly 70% hispanics. We’ve already lost.


27 posted on 09/30/2012 8:52:42 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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28 posted on 09/30/2012 9:17:16 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: SeekAndFind

This isn’t a winner for TX. Consider the people who left California out of disgust; they went to coastal Oregon and turned it into another Commie hellhole, then they went to coastal Washington State and turned IT into another Commie hellhole, Colorado is changing, others are changing.

I hope and pray that Texans successfully resist the Commufornians who move to the Lone Star state.


29 posted on 09/30/2012 9:20:14 PM PDT by Rembrandt (Part of the 51% who pay Federal taxes)
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To: SeekAndFind

God Bless Texas...


30 posted on 09/30/2012 9:24:33 PM PDT by Gator113 (I would have voted for NEWT, now it's Ryan and the other guy.~Just livin' life, my way~)
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To: SeekAndFind

Please, no more Liberal Californians, Illinoisans, New Yorkers, or Yankees of any kind to TEXAS... They get here because they love what Freedom has to offer, then try to change Us to be more like where they had to leave..

PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, stay where you are and change your own home to be more like US..


31 posted on 09/30/2012 9:31:54 PM PDT by carlo3b (Less Government, more Fiber..)
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To: Rembrandt
I hope and pray that Texans successfully resist the Commufornians who move to the Lone Star state.

Don't forget that lots of conservatives are moving from California to Texas. I'm one of that number, as are a host of other Freepers. We're just the tip of the iceberg.

32 posted on 09/30/2012 9:35:31 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

you’re lucky that they are only 70% ....give it 4 years and you’ll be at 90%.....

West Texas is gone ....it’s like a third world country in many of the small towns ....it’s as you say unrecognizable ....there are no words to express it to people haven’t lived through the transformation we are going through


33 posted on 09/30/2012 9:49:07 PM PDT by thestob (Vote or P. Diddy will kill you)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
I have lived here my whole life and I barely recognize the place from what it was in my youth.

I've lived here only 25 years and can see an enormous difference. The only thing keeping me here now are my grandkids. And I told my daughter and son-in-law they they need to move to Montana.

34 posted on 09/30/2012 10:27:42 PM PDT by TexasKamaAina
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