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Poll finds most think Obama will win first debate
Washington Times ^ | 9-30-2012 | By Stephen Dinan and Ben Wolfgang

Posted on 09/30/2012 7:55:46 PM PDT by smoothsailing

September 30, 2012

Poll finds most think Obama will win first debate

By Stephen Dinan and Ben Wolfgang

DENVER — Mitt Romney has one thing going for him headed into this week’s first presidential debate with President Obama: Voters don’t expect him to do very well.

The newest Washington Times/Zogby Poll, released Sunday, found twice as many voters think Mr. Obama will win Wednesday’s kickoff affair as think Mr. Romney will win it — and among self-identified independents, it’s even more pronounced.

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KEYWORDS: 2012polls; 212debates; debate; debates; obama; poll; polling; polls; romney; zogby
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UPDATE

New York Post September 30, 2012

Democratic National Committee predicts Romney will win first debate vs. Obama

Democratic National Committee spokesman Brad Woodhouse tells Fox News he thinks Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney will win.

Full story

1 posted on 09/30/2012 7:55:50 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing

Zogby?? lmao


2 posted on 09/30/2012 7:57:33 PM PDT by tatown ( FUMD, FUAC, and FUGB)
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To: smoothsailing

DFid they call in on their ObamaPhones?


3 posted on 09/30/2012 7:57:58 PM PDT by EggsAckley ("There's an Ethiopian in the fuel supply!")
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To: EggsAckley

“DFid” = Did. My bad.


4 posted on 09/30/2012 7:59:26 PM PDT by EggsAckley ("There's an Ethiopian in the fuel supply!")
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To: smoothsailing

Safe bet.

all of the bylines were written weeks ago about Obamas victory at the Debates.

They’re just waiting to fill in the blanks withe e heavily editted soundbites.


5 posted on 09/30/2012 7:59:33 PM PDT by digger48
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To: smoothsailing

There is a contest going on as to how many times Obama says “I”, “MY”, “ME”, and “UHHH”

My bet is 50,40,45,and 200


6 posted on 09/30/2012 8:05:29 PM PDT by LtKerst
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To: smoothsailing

No matter how resoundingly Mitt b-slaps hussein the msm will declare hussein the winner.


7 posted on 09/30/2012 8:06:16 PM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obama now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: smoothsailing

Liberal media spins everything for Obama.


8 posted on 09/30/2012 8:07:39 PM PDT by granada
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To: tatown
Actually, that is a good thing. The lower expectations for Romney, the better. He may surprise a few people since people incorrectly think Obama is so stunning as a speaker. I have always found Obama very average as a speaker. I have never understood why people think he is a good speaker.
9 posted on 09/30/2012 8:07:39 PM PDT by Dave W
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To: smoothsailing
Some lessons:

1) We have really dumb set of "most voters" who do not consider the respective histories of the candidates, and apparently are unaware of Willard's prodigious debating skills;

2) The Democrat brainwashing complex must take some time to become effectual with "most voters": "most voters" expect a poor performance from Willard as they have not yet heard their thought marching orders from the DNC. It needs to be repeated several times before "most voters" get it.

` The internals of this poll identifying "most voters" would intrigue me.
10 posted on 09/30/2012 8:08:50 PM PDT by Lexinom
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To: smoothsailing

I think Obama is going to get schooled.


11 posted on 09/30/2012 8:11:48 PM PDT by Ohiobelle
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To: digger48

I agree with this 100%!

This is probably the most useless poll to date.

I’m new here, but I was motivated to register a few days ago when someone declared that we would see headlines the day after the first debate such as “Romney Swings and Misses” and “President Obama Keeps His Cool As Romney Continues to Struggle”... Yes, probably already written and set aside.

Fortunately, I saw something today that made me realize that Obama probably cannot win this election without using every dirty, rotten trick in the book. Enthusiam for Mitt Romney at a major non-partisan event in Hudson County here in New Jersey. Romney probably will not win here, but if the enthusiasm is this big for him here he should be able to coast to a big win in many other parts of the county. Nothing anyone says to me at this point will change my mind about this.


12 posted on 09/30/2012 8:19:29 PM PDT by NewJerseyGOP
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To: smoothsailing

According to the media, it seems 800 poll participants in Ohio will decide the entire election, starting with their prediction of the first debate.


13 posted on 09/30/2012 8:21:36 PM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.......)
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To: LtKerst
There is a contest going on as to how many times Obama says “I”, “MY”, “ME”, and “UHHH”,

That could be one dangerous drinking game.

14 posted on 09/30/2012 8:22:01 PM PDT by lightman (Settling for the "lesser of two..." is still choosing Evil)
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To: LtKerst
Obama stuttering song :o)
15 posted on 09/30/2012 8:22:01 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing

Well, duh. obama will be given all the questions in advance, so how can he lose the debate?


16 posted on 09/30/2012 8:23:31 PM PDT by chessplayer
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To: EggsAckley
Did they call in on their ObamaPhones?



"Yeah, they call me on my Obama Phone. I said, keep Obama in President, you know?"
17 posted on 09/30/2012 8:24:09 PM PDT by LostInBayport (When there are more people riding in the cart than there are pulling it, the cart stops moving...)
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To: smoothsailing

Zogby...the registered Dem who tries so hard to tell us he’s not.


18 posted on 09/30/2012 8:24:24 PM PDT by max americana (Make the world a better place by punching a liberal in the face)
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To: smoothsailing

Know why I won’t be watching? Because Obama makes me violently sick. Whenever I see an advertisement of his interrupt a football game, I change the channel immediately. I can’t stand this pathetic, marxist, sham of a human being masquerading as President, undermining our individual liberties and pissing on our Constitution every chance he gets. I know who I’m voting for and it’s called anyone that can beat this loser and send him packing in November. So, I will find something else to do rather than listen to this anti-American ass spew lies from his piehole for two hours. The mere site of his face disgusts me beyond belief.


19 posted on 09/30/2012 8:26:33 PM PDT by NoobRep
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To: LostInBayport

20 posted on 09/30/2012 8:28:37 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing

Obama cannot win anything...unless the media gives him a script AND the answers along with it.


21 posted on 09/30/2012 8:30:12 PM PDT by madison10
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To: lightman

Kathleen SeBelius should issue a warning about that.


22 posted on 09/30/2012 8:30:30 PM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (Ignorance is bliss- I'm stoked)
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To: smoothsailing

The man has talked us into a coma over the past four ear drum inflaming years. He is in my TV, he is on my computer, he us constantly addressing the nation about stuff I already know about.

The end result is that we figure that he’s got the whole “talking us into unconsciousness” thing down.


23 posted on 09/30/2012 8:45:07 PM PDT by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: NoobRep

Same here. I’ll probably check in on the live thread here and there for any highlights, but I can’t bear to hear/watch the smarmy sycophant media lie for Hussein, pitch softballs to Hussein, and generally kiss Hussein’s crusty azz. I certainly can’t bear to listen to him dither as he tries to remember what his coach told him to say, or rambles off on tangents using vague high-flown rhetoric. I just really don’t put it past the media to have given him the questions in advance.


24 posted on 09/30/2012 8:46:59 PM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: mrsmel

Will Bath-House Barry have a teleprompter?

If not, he’ll be toast.


25 posted on 09/30/2012 8:48:36 PM PDT by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: madison10

Considering Journo-list and all the other little tidbits about the media’s relation to Hussein that have come to light, don’t believe for a second that they wouldn’t do that.


26 posted on 09/30/2012 8:48:39 PM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: smoothsailing

AFTER the debate I cannot wait for the media to tell me what I saw and who won. Life is simplified when I can rely on my betters to keep me misinformed.


27 posted on 09/30/2012 8:49:53 PM PDT by nonsporting
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To: Mortrey

He may remember to actually answer a few of the questions, if he can remember the answers, considering that the media will likely as not give him the questions in advance. But he still has to remember a few answers even then. I wonder if he’ll wear a hat, or have his hair fluffed out?


28 posted on 09/30/2012 8:51:10 PM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: NoobRep

LOL, I hear you. I’m not watching it either, FR will provide the rundown when it’s over.


29 posted on 09/30/2012 8:51:46 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing
Hey, if that's true, then Mitt will likely beat expectations.

I find that heartening. Mitt can come across as plastic, but he's become a whole lot better than I thought he'd ever be this past year. If he comes across as a plausible alternative, a plausibly smart guy with some decent answers, it will push things his way.

I remember when Bush stood up to Gore (the so called smartest debater ever), it dawned on people that the preconceptions about the two were wrong.

30 posted on 09/30/2012 8:52:03 PM PDT by Lakeshark (I don't care for Mitt; the alternative is unthinkable)
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To: nonsporting

You don’t have to wait for them to tell you the winner, they already have articles written up. Guess who?


31 posted on 09/30/2012 8:52:18 PM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: smoothsailing
"...Washington Times/Zogby Poll..."

I used to think the Washington Times was a somewhat respectable right-of-center rag. Now they're throwing in with Zogby? Man, have they sunk to the gutter.

Zogby's got about as much credibility as Baghdad Bob.

32 posted on 09/30/2012 8:53:42 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Dave W
I have always found Obama very average as a speaker. I have never understood why people think he is a good speaker.

It's rare to find a Democrat who can actually speak the language coherently. Every word he utters may be utter bs, but he does sound good while he's doing it. For the most part.

This is why the left thinks he's a brilliant orator.

33 posted on 09/30/2012 8:57:06 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: smoothsailing
I don't really want to watch it, listening to Bambi is an insufferable chore, but I'm going to see for myself how they stand up against each other, how they measure up for real in this age of TV and talking points.

I'd rather get an impression for myself, and then see what FR and other conservative sites are saying.

34 posted on 09/30/2012 8:57:06 PM PDT by Lakeshark (I don't care for Mitt; the alternative is unthinkable)
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To: Windflier

I wonder if the Washington Times is gaming Zogby. The DNC and Obama campaign are doing their best to say Romney is a great debater and he will win.

Then Zogby shows up with his goofy poll screaming Obama wins! LOL!


35 posted on 09/30/2012 8:59:43 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: Lakeshark

I agree, the poll helps Romney. The DNC and the Obama camp can’t be happy at all with Zogby and his poll. HA!


36 posted on 09/30/2012 9:03:12 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: Windflier

“This is why the left thinks he’s a brilliant orator.”

Yes, but the intellect-challenged left don’t know Bath-House Barry needed his teleprompters to speak to a sixth grade classroom of kids.


37 posted on 09/30/2012 9:05:27 PM PDT by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: smoothsailing
From what I hear Obama hasn't done much in the way of preparing for these debates. He's too focused on doing "fun" things. I expect his laziness will be evident at the debate.
38 posted on 09/30/2012 9:07:27 PM PDT by yellowhammer
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To: LostInBayport

ROFL

that was classic!


39 posted on 09/30/2012 9:13:05 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: yellowhammer
From what I hear Obama hasn't done much in the way of preparing for these debates. He's too focused on doing "fun" things. I expect his laziness will be evident at the debate.

Why bother when your handlers have all of the questions and will be feeding you the answers through a hidden ear piece?

40 posted on 09/30/2012 9:14:32 PM PDT by mollynme (cogito, ergo freepum)
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To: yellowhammer
I expect his laziness will be evident at the debate.

I'm sure you're right, it's his pattern.

41 posted on 09/30/2012 9:17:20 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: lightman

I would like to enter but I don’t own a TV!


42 posted on 09/30/2012 9:20:06 PM PDT by Fungi
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To: chessplayer
Well, duh. obama will be given all the questions in advance, so how can he lose the debate?

This.

43 posted on 09/30/2012 9:27:42 PM PDT by Dogbert41 ("...The people of Jerusalem are strong, because the Lord Almighty is their God" Zech. 12:5)
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To: ThunderSleeps
"No matter how resoundingly Mitt b-slaps hussein the msm will declare hussein the winner."

...even as a no-show and his chair is empty
44 posted on 09/30/2012 9:36:25 PM PDT by clearcarbon
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To: smoothsailing

The Media stories praising Obama’s “UNEXPECTEDLY BRILLIANT!” Debate performance have already been written, and submitted to MediaMatters for approval.


45 posted on 09/30/2012 9:48:16 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Election 2012: THE RAPTURE OF THE DEMOCRATS)
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To: tcrlaf

Unless the SOB has a teleprompter or knows the question beforehand so he can memorize an answer, yes he will sound like your typical 6th grade drop-out gangbanger. Obummer reads good, nothing else.


46 posted on 09/30/2012 9:54:01 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: smoothsailing

Romney needs to win with the voters, not MSM in this rigged game, the rest of the traitors or the pollsters.....


47 posted on 09/30/2012 10:05:15 PM PDT by Gator113 (I would have voted for NEWT, now it's Ryan and the other guy.~Just livin' life, my way~)
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To: smoothsailing

Without a teleprompter?


48 posted on 09/30/2012 10:10:14 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: smoothsailing
Question #1: Has zero been fed the questions by pravda-ussa?

Question #2: Will zero have a teleprompter to keep him from veering off into redistribution, reeducation camps or what happens to those who don't pass reeducation camp?

49 posted on 09/30/2012 10:23:08 PM PDT by MtnClimber (I did not vote for Zero. Someone else did that.)
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To: smoothsailing
I wonder if the Washington Times is gaming Zogby.

It's a theory, and if true, would be devilishly devious. Zogby is now one of the worst rated pollsters out there, so you know he's hurting for work.

The folks at The WT, knowing this, and knowing his penchant for skewing things madly in the Dem's direction, could have hired him knowing that he'd pump up expectations for Dem voters, when by all indications, Mitt's gonna whup Obie's behind.

That's one way of looking at it, but I can't for the life of me, see what's in it for the Washington Times.

50 posted on 09/30/2012 10:31:57 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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