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Did Lockheed Martin Just Win Virginia for Obama?
The Atlantic Wire ^ | October 01, 2012 | John Hudson

Posted on 10/01/2012 10:27:39 PM PDT by george76

It's difficult to understate the importance of Lockheed Martin's latest announcement on the race for the White House: the defense contractor said on Monday it will not be issuing employee layoff notices to 123,000 workers on Nov. 2—just four days before the presidential election.

Amidst all of the super PACs and campaign ads, the threat of telling a sizable chunk of voters in key areas of the country that they could lose their jobs if the election didn't go Lockheed's way was one of the most potent examples of corporate electioneering. But the layoff threat was largely unreported outside of Beltway trade publications.

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Overall, it goes without saying that the president dodged a major bullet with today's announcement, and the Romney campaign missed out an a huge opportunity to win over jittery Virginia voters.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia; US: Maryland; US: Pennsylvania; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: defense; employment; layoff; lockheed; lockheedmartin; martin; sequestration; warn; warnact
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To: null and void

I bring it up only to demonstrate how crappy was the writing.


21 posted on 10/01/2012 11:55:56 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: george76

Illegal. Lockheed should know better.


22 posted on 10/02/2012 12:09:44 AM PDT by Viennacon
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To: fso301
I would imagine the Lockhheed employees know what's going on.

Right. I realize a lot of American voters are dumb as bags of rocks, but how stupid does anyone think people really are?

Lockheed Martin Worker #1: "Hey, did you hear the news that our company is going to lay off 123,000 people?"

Lockheed Martin Worker #2: "Yeah, but they're not announcing it until after the election so for now we have to act as if it's not going to happen."

Lockheed Martin Worker #1: "Wow -- that's good news. That means I don't have to spend any time updating my resume or anything like that."

WTF? LOL.

23 posted on 10/02/2012 1:32:38 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: Alberta's Child

How can the employees know what’s going on? There is apparently no need to have a plan until after the election. There is no way to know what programs or who will be cut. The employees’ voting decisions are back to politics, not job-based, which is what obamma wanted.

Now is when the House could start hearings and raise media attention about this illegal and immoral act. The media will spin it that the House is politiking, but if the House had a spine, they’d do it for moral reasons.


24 posted on 10/02/2012 2:14:24 AM PDT by ReaganGeneration2
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To: george76

Lock-Mart will wait until just before Christmas to announce the layoffs. I’m sure Sheik Obomba will be fine with that.


25 posted on 10/02/2012 2:21:44 AM PDT by Fresh Wind ('People have got to know whether or not their president is a crook.' Richard M. Nixon)
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To: george76
There are a lot of people who are under the misguided impression that Defense / Aerospace industry is automatically going to be conservative. Nothing of the sort could be more untrue.

From FEC records (compiled by Open Secrets):

These folks go with where they think they'll be able to get the most contracting money. Regardless of party.

26 posted on 10/02/2012 2:36:27 AM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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To: markomalley
These folks go with where they think they'll be able to get the most contracting money. Regardless of party.

Yet they donate to Ron Paul?

27 posted on 10/02/2012 2:43:06 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: Future Snake Eater
Yet they donate to Ron Paul?

Look at the amount of difference in amounts.

These numbers are compiled from PAC donations and from individual donations by people who are employed by the company in question. It's fairly obvious that the heavy hitters are donating to both Øbozo and Willard (&Oshas;bozo with a slight lead). I would wager if I was to do a more in-depth search, I'd find a whole bunch of smaller donations to RuPaul...chances are from lower level employees.

(Of course, if you want the real story, take a look at their congressional contributions over multiple cycles)

28 posted on 10/02/2012 3:12:56 AM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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To: ReaganGeneration2
How can the employees know what’s going on?

Well, let's see ... You and I are posting here on this thing called the internet, and there are already stories all over the place about Lockheed Martin's plan to eliminate 123,000 jobs. Don't you think at least a few employees of Lockheed Martin also have access to the internet -- and just might be asking themselves if they are among the 123,000 that are going to be laid off?

29 posted on 10/02/2012 3:32:15 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: dila813

yes they are breaking the law but obama’s administration told them the “government” will pay their fines

of course the people fired after the election, on short notice, will be told it is because of republican obstructionism

any contractor employee who doesn’t see through this move by obama and who votes democrat, is too stupid to stay employed. Kinda like coal miners and oil workers who vote
their jobs out of existence


30 posted on 10/02/2012 4:12:45 AM PDT by silverleaf
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To: Gene Eric

“Isn’t it amazing how large corporations will so easily go along with blatant violations of public trust?”

There’s a kind of group-think in large organizations. People in large organizations do things that they, as individuals, would never do. An example is the GM decision not to spend a dollar per car on the Corvaire to prevent rollovers because the estimated money saved exceeded the estimated money paid in lawsuits. People tend to do what they are rewarded for and they want the approval of those who grant their bonuses.

Having said that, if they had sent out 25k notices to the people they would lay off those 25k mostly wouldn’t vote for Obama. But now, the total 125k employees don’t know whether they’ll be included in the layoff so a greater number may vote against Obama. As another poster said, “backfire, bigtime!”


31 posted on 10/02/2012 4:17:17 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: george76

Hey Lockheed employees. You know hussein will back defense cuts, massive defense cuts, if he is elected. He just told your management to break the law and keep you in the dark. He is going to pay their legal costs to fight you in court. Does that sound like someone you want to back, like someone you want in control of your destiny? I think husseins announcement just backfired and lost him the vote of every single defense worker and their families.


32 posted on 10/02/2012 4:20:37 AM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obama now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: Gene Eric

-——Isn’t it amazing how large corporations will so easily go along with blatant violations of public trust?——

By making the announcement they informed the employees of the impending lay offs and saved themselves the cost of issuing the paper notices. The political results will likely be the same as if formal paper notices were issued.

It makes one wonder about waiving laws. It makes one wonder if laws protecting the President can just be waived?


33 posted on 10/02/2012 4:24:51 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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To: george76

When I worked for that company, the division I worked in was merged with a different one and Ms. Linda Gooden became our executive VP. I was laid off 6 months after she took over. When she took over, she implemented a policy where if you took vacation, you were expected to make up that same amount of time in unpaid overtime. She also cracked down on dress code as well. She likes to pay surprise visits to catch people off guard. She visited Colorado one time and she had people sent home for wearing jeans ! Word also got out that each employee is expected to work 5 to 10 hours of casual overtime each week. She also cracked down on flex time as well. Use to be the parking lots were empty on Friday afternoon but they are now full even to 5 pm Friday. Before most people would work their hours earlier in the week. I even see the parking lots sometimes filled on Saturdays too.

One thing about Ms. Gooden, she is a big Obama supporter.


34 posted on 10/02/2012 4:36:58 AM PDT by CORedneck
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To: george76
I don't think Obama’s promises to Lockheed executives will give the employees anything to cheer about.

Obama has promised to cover any costs associated with the failure to give employees 60 days notice of termination. He DID NOT promise to stop the layoffs.

This allows Lockheed to issue IMMEDIATE terminations to thousands of employees after the election.

If I was employed by Lockheed, Obama’s promise would scare me to death, & make me very angry.

35 posted on 10/02/2012 4:45:29 AM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: funfan
If the layoffs are due to Sequestration in the budget

What Budget? Congress hasn't passed a budget in eons.

36 posted on 10/02/2012 4:49:46 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: markomalley

No, I got that, but I’m just surprised that he’s up there at all. I would think he’d be a small step above Lyndon Larouche considering what he’d do to the defense industry.


37 posted on 10/02/2012 5:01:49 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: Alberta's Child

Yes, this is very bad. If there’s no slip telling you that YOU are laid off, you don’t think it happens to you or your program. You may suspect it, but there’s just not enough information to change your mind to take your vote from 0bama. You may even blame BOehner or look to 0bama for unemployment $$$.

Something like this is how Dems chip away at the swing states and win - a lesson learned from Nixon and IL in 1960.

And it should be an easy tactic to knock down in this case, by Congress, or by Romney - the fact that 0bama is taking contractors’ “right” (by law, for what its worth) to be notified of losing their jobs 60 days in advance.

But I hear a Senator (Thune?) Is raising this now. Stay tuned.


38 posted on 10/02/2012 5:27:30 AM PDT by ReaganGeneration2
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To: markomalley

Regardless of your nifty little graphic, I have been in the Defense Industry my entire life and it is overwhelmingly conservative. Of course you will find a few libs here and there - especially in the DC Area, NJ, and CA. However, the industry as a while is a reflection of the military, which is leans to the right as well.


39 posted on 10/02/2012 6:04:01 AM PDT by ohioman
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To: tallyhoe

Of course they do. A lot of them are members of the IAM-AW, layoffs are by seniority. BTW, where is the union in all of this? (I know of where I speak - I retired from Lockheed Martin after 21 years of service.)


40 posted on 10/02/2012 6:39:11 AM PDT by Inspectorette
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