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Judge Rules Photo ID Won’t Be Required For Pennsylvania Voters This Year
CBS Philly ^ | 10/2/2012 | Cherri Gregg

Posted on 10/02/2012 7:38:15 AM PDT by JediJones

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Article's not very clear on whether or not AFTER this election the law will go into full effect.
1 posted on 10/02/2012 7:38:29 AM PDT by JediJones
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To: JediJones

Judicial tyranny.


2 posted on 10/02/2012 7:41:45 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: JediJones
We've gotten so "open-minded" our judges' brains are falling out...

The franchise of freedom is in jeopardy.

jmho....

3 posted on 10/02/2012 7:41:54 AM PDT by Wings-n-Wind (The main things are the plain things!)
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To: JediJones

Very, very disappointing. Voter fraud is HUGE in Philly. So, you have to show ID to buy a fricken box of Sudafed, but voting? nah, no problem, we trust you ... aaRRGH!


4 posted on 10/02/2012 7:41:59 AM PDT by twyn1
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To: JediJones

IMHO, we make it way too easy in this country to vote—especially if its fradulent voting. And fradulent voting is almost never prosecuted. Most Democratic voters wouldn’t bother voting if it inconvienced them in any way.


5 posted on 10/02/2012 7:42:44 AM PDT by rbg81
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To: JediJones

This judge is apparently a GOP elected official.
http://www.businessweek.com/news/2012-09-30/ohio-pennsylvania-voter-rules-face-judges-scrutiny


6 posted on 10/02/2012 7:42:48 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: JediJones

There is absolutely no valid reason that votes without IDs can’t go into the provisional pile, to be counted ONLY if the margin of victory is less than the number of provisional ballots.


7 posted on 10/02/2012 7:43:45 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: JediJones

Wrong link. The right one is:
http://articles.mcall.com/2012-07-28/news/mc-pa-voter-id-supreme-court-20120727_1_voter-id-law-voter-identification-ellen-mattleman-kaplan


8 posted on 10/02/2012 7:44:42 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: JediJones
Did anybody really believe that the political class was going to forfeit any power whatsoever?

To the dhimmis voter fraud is an entitlement.

Just like term limits the gatekeepers will decide who/what gets through and that includes BOTH the dhimmis and the GOP.

9 posted on 10/02/2012 7:46:28 AM PDT by Pietro
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To: JediJones
Buttboy, ROBIN

Read what he's done ...

10 posted on 10/02/2012 7:46:55 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: JediJones
Wake up, people. America is gone. We live in a society WITHOUT THE RULE OF LAW.

Now.

11 posted on 10/02/2012 7:48:22 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer (My game is disruption. I will use lethal force --my vote-- in self-defense against Obama.)
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To: JediJones

PA voters (real, walking dead or cheaters) won’t need ID as of now to vote (for Obama to keep the free goodies).

The Democrats and their tame judges want to win by any means possible and no ID makes fraud easier.


12 posted on 10/02/2012 7:49:11 AM PDT by RicocheT (Eat the rich only if you're certain it's your last meal)
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To: JediJones

I predicted this weeks ago on here. The only surprise is that the radical leftist judge didn’t wait until 24 hours prior to election day. Now the Republicans have time to appeal I suppose, for all the good that will do.


13 posted on 10/02/2012 7:49:36 AM PDT by PermaRag (If Trayvon had a father, he'd look just like Obama)
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To: skeeter

“Judicial tyranny.”

***

Or judicial cowardice.


14 posted on 10/02/2012 7:49:54 AM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: JediJones

What the Hell happened to America...


15 posted on 10/02/2012 7:51:44 AM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Zhang Fei

From your link- Simpson is a Trojan Horse:

“Simpson was nominated by Democratic Gov. Bob Casey to fill a vacancy in Northampton County Court in May 1989 and then was elected to a 10-year term later that year.

Although Simpson was a Democrat, he cross-filed to appear on the ballots in both the Democratic and Republican primaries. He lost the Democratic primary but won as a Republican and went on to win in the 1989 general election.”


16 posted on 10/02/2012 7:51:45 AM PDT by Qbert ("The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry" - William F. Buckley, Jr.)
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To: JediJones

Why bother to ask if it doesn’t mean anything?


17 posted on 10/02/2012 7:56:01 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: JediJones

Sure it ticks me off but in practical sense will it matter for this election? Does anyone think obama won’t gets PA’s electoral votes anyway? It does however facilitate a distortion of the overall nationwide vote.


18 posted on 10/02/2012 7:57:01 AM PDT by plain talk
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To: JediJones

It’s official. The anointed one is now propped up by his own corrupt judiciary as well as his own corrupt media.

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Banana Republic of America


19 posted on 10/02/2012 7:57:11 AM PDT by Viennacon
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To: JediJones

After does not matter. Only now, in this Last Election That Counts. Any subsequent elections will not matter.

This “Judge” has delivered the blow that will allow a flood of fradulent votes to come pouring in. A last minute bit of legal demolition to ensure Il Douche’s victory.

Disgusting.


20 posted on 10/02/2012 8:02:27 AM PDT by BrewingFrog (I brew, therefore I am!)
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To: PermaRag
The only surprise is that the radical leftist judge didn’t wait until 24 hours prior to election day.

No surprise. As far as the timing of his ruling is concerned, the judge did exactly what the supreme court told him to do.

21 posted on 10/02/2012 8:02:31 AM PDT by Fresh Wind ('People have got to know whether or not their president is a crook.' Richard M. Nixon)
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To: Zhang Fei
This judge is apparently a GOP elected official.

Yes, he initially voted to uphold the law. The State Supreme Court sent it back to him with surreal instructions that basically said "get your mind right and find some way to reverse yourself". In hindsight maybe he should have resigned.


22 posted on 10/02/2012 8:03:00 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: MrB
There is absolutely no valid reason that votes without IDs can’t go into the provisional pile, to be counted ONLY if the margin of victory is less than the number of provisional ballots.

MrB, you are absolutely going to have to stop interjecting wisdom into this discussion. ;-)

23 posted on 10/02/2012 8:03:19 AM PDT by newheart (At what point does policy become treason?)
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To: Venturer
Okay, ALL is fair in WAR.....NO ID, no problem...TAKE ANY ONE AND EVERYONE you know who isn't registered to the polls. IF you have guest from out of town take them to vote....HELL TWO CAN PLAY THE SAME GAME!! If you can rent a van, pick up folk from the streets and take them to vote. Hell offer them a pack of cigarettes, a beer or an ex-large soda in exchange for their vote....DON'T JUST MOAN AND GROAN....TAKE ACTION AND STICK IT UP their BUTTS WHERE THE SUN DON'T SUNSHINE!!
24 posted on 10/02/2012 8:03:42 AM PDT by RoseofTexas
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To: JediJones

Is this an open invitation to masses of ineligible/illegal voters to go to Pennsylvania to vote?

Seriously.

No ID mandate - vote in your home state, then drive up to Pennsylvania and find an organization (Leftist, I’m sure) that keeps up with old folks that don’t vote any more, or recent deaths, or ____________ (fill in the blank) and vote in someone else’s place. Further - it would be difficult to trace/investigate.

Watch for SEIU busses at the polls?


25 posted on 10/02/2012 8:07:09 AM PDT by TheBattman (Isn't the lesser evil... still evil?)
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To: JediJones

Open season for voter fraud.


26 posted on 10/02/2012 8:09:46 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: skeeter

So it would also be safe to say that an I.D. would not be required to enter this so called judges court room?


27 posted on 10/02/2012 8:11:14 AM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: JediJones

It doesn’t matter. In those Phila precincts with the voter fraud, the poll workers are in on it, and they’ll let people vote without ID.


28 posted on 10/02/2012 8:12:19 AM PDT by Daveinyork
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To: RoseofTexas
Nice thought. But registration closes 30 days before an election. An appeal is the only realistic option at this point.

The voter ID law was a booby prize, a sop to conservatives and fair minded moderates who backed the Pileggi bill to allocate Pennsylvania's electoral votes on the same basis as is done in Maine and Nebraska: 2 for the statewide winner, 1 for the winner of each congressional district.

With a solid GOP majority in both houses and a governor pledged to sign the bill once passed, the Pileggi bill would have accomplished the same thing as the voter ID bill with far less fuss and fanfare.

With only the two statewide electoral votes at stake in the most corrupt Democrat districts, there would have been far less reward for cheating making for more balanced contests down ticket as well.

The Democrats would have been unable to launch their normal corrupt legal challenges and delaying tactics for three reasons:

  1. Winner take all has been used nationwide for only one century 1864-1968 of our history.
  2. Maine has used the congressional district system since 1972, Nebraska since 1992.
  3. The Democrats gleefully competed for and won one of Nebraska's electoral votes under this method in 2008.

Gleason, our Quisling state GOP chair, opposed the Pileggi bill on the basis that the GOP would win all 20 this year given Obama's sorry record. 'So what?', should have been the obvious reply. If that happens, Pennsylvania won't make a difference anyway.

Now, Mr. Chairman, are you willing to resign in disgrace if you don't deliver what you bragged would be done one year ago when you blocked this bill?

29 posted on 10/02/2012 8:13:02 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: JediJones

Fraudulent voting is protected by Democrats and their hand-picked lackeys in robes. The judge likes the fact that Democrat precincts in Philly vote 110% straight ticket Democrat and that Whites are turned away from the polling places by Black Panthers with nightsticks.

Wouldn’t it be nice if our military were at our polling places to guarantee fair elections, and everyone had to stick their finger in indelible ink to prove that they’ve only voted once? We can do that for other countries, but not our own.


30 posted on 10/02/2012 8:13:09 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: JediJones

FARGIN BASTIGES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


31 posted on 10/02/2012 8:17:01 AM PDT by Mr. K ("The only thing the World would hate more than the USA in charge is the USA NOT in charge")
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To: Daveinyork

Insanity!


32 posted on 10/02/2012 8:21:04 AM PDT by fireman15 (Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)
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To: MrB

Yes that’s how its done properly, with provisional ballots which get counted if the voters show they were properly cast by legitimate registered voters. Putting ballots cast by unidentified people in with the legitimately- cast ballots is like pissing in the punch bowl. It ruins the whole works .


33 posted on 10/02/2012 8:33:02 AM PDT by faithhopecharity
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This Judge wants to control this particular election....

he has been bought and paid for by Hussein thugs...they are scared...big time..

I live in Pennsylvania, was born here, returned here for retirement...biggest mistake I have ever made..well one of the biggest~~~

my area is controlled by FREE FOOD, FREE PHONES AND IGNORANCE...
we are not FREE any longer...we are controlled...


34 posted on 10/02/2012 8:35:41 AM PDT by haircutter (.)
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To: JediJones

The U.S. Supreme Court ruled a similar law in Indiana constitutional.


35 posted on 10/02/2012 8:38:27 AM PDT by popdonnelly (The first priority is get Obama out of the White House.)
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IF HUSSEIN KEEPS THE OFFICE OF PRESIDENT IT WILL BE THROUGH

FRAUD, THEIF, LIES, AND THREATS...

AND AMERICA WILL BE NO MORE.....


36 posted on 10/02/2012 8:38:49 AM PDT by haircutter (.)
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To: Wings-n-Wind

I always always always check NO for “Should Judge ____ be retained?”

Gotta figure if they’re in office long enough, they’ve compromised themselves and everyone/everything they’re judging for political gain.

And none of them ever seem to get kicked out anyway.


37 posted on 10/02/2012 8:40:16 AM PDT by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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The END MEANS couldn’t be more obvious!! Friggin stupid judge....he is getting something good for that ruling.


38 posted on 10/02/2012 8:59:10 AM PDT by Fawn (DEAR JESUS....PLEASE LET OBAMA LOSE.....AMEN.)
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To: MrB

What is the point of setting them aside if you’re just going to count them anyways? They go in the “needs to be verified” pile and they do not come out of that pile until the verification is complete.


39 posted on 10/02/2012 9:00:51 AM PDT by cableguymn (The founding fathers would be shooting by now..)
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To: cableguymn

“Provisional” is just that - they aren’t verified and counted unless they are needed.

Usually, they won’t be. But if the margin is less than the number of provisionals, they’ll all have to be verified as valid and then counted.

Of course, the ‘rats could try to overwhelm the system by refusing to show ID and making all their votes provisional, delaying and messing up the works.


40 posted on 10/02/2012 9:05:00 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: skeeter

I just learned that the judge will have the ballots of the unidentified voters mixed in and counted with the ballots of properly-registered and identified voters.
This destroys the integrity of the Pennsylvania election, completely.
(Ballots from people without proper ID, or with no ID, should be Provision Ballots and counted only when the bona fides of the voters are determined. This is how it is done from one end of America to the other. The state has the duty to insure the integrity of the election. Mixing ballots cast by unidentified voters in with properly-cast ballots destroys the Pennsylvania election (and possibly may elect a President based on a whole lot of fake ballots).
If the RNC or the Romney campaign doesn’t get on this ruling RIGHT AWAY, like TODAY, to get it fixed or set aside, then they may very well be conceding the election .... watch and see what they do....watch and see what they do....watch and see what they do....


41 posted on 10/02/2012 9:08:50 AM PDT by faithhopecharity
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To: JediJones

Anybody else getting tired of this BS?


42 posted on 10/02/2012 9:11:07 AM PDT by Ramcat (Thank You American Veterans)
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To: MrB; cableguymn

What’s to stop a Democrat operative from grabbing that pile, throwing out the Republican ballots, and adding everything else into the main pile of ballots to be counted?


43 posted on 10/02/2012 9:31:20 AM PDT by wastedyears (The First Law of Heavy Metal: Not all metal is satanic.)
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To: wastedyears

They do crap like that already.


44 posted on 10/02/2012 9:33:57 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: skeeter

Right on!! Tyranny in its purist form. This is why there is a need for those that want this country to survive to get out and vote and be vigalant against voter fraud. We are living the post American dream


45 posted on 10/02/2012 9:44:35 AM PDT by Busko
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To: BrewingFrog

This will clear the way for the First Wookie to take over for Baraq in 2016.


46 posted on 10/02/2012 9:48:13 AM PDT by Delta Dawn (The whole truth.)
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To: backwoods-engineer
Wake up, people. America is gone. We live in a society WITHOUT THE RULE OF LAW.

We have lost the judicial system, the financial system, the media to communism, the education system & most important we have lost GOD. Now follow the dots & find a place outside of this country while we still can.

47 posted on 10/02/2012 9:49:16 AM PDT by Digger (A)
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To: JediJones

The PA Sec of State needs to tell this judge to get bent. The SCOTUS has already ruled that photo ID laws are constitutional. The DOJ sued us twice about it but all you have to do is show up in Court and it gets kicked out. The states need to start ignoring these Federal judges who are out of line.


48 posted on 10/02/2012 9:52:07 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: JediJones

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49 posted on 10/02/2012 9:55:55 AM PDT by Tzimisce (THIS SUCKS)
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To: MrB

These are not “Provisional”.. they can ask a voter for ID but they must give them a regular ballot even if they decline to provide ID.


50 posted on 10/02/2012 10:16:11 AM PDT by cableguymn (The founding fathers would be shooting by now..)
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