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Talks with Taliban Collapse
Fox News Live (no link) | 10/2/12

Posted on 10/02/2012 8:42:27 AM PDT by pabianice

Now on Fox. Reporting that talks with Taliban have collapsed as our surrender date in 2014 is official. Talks were through intermediaries to get some sort of treaty with the terrorists to salvage some shred of respect from Obama's announced surrender. The Taliban refused to release the sole US soldier being held hostage no matter how many terrorists Obama would release from Gitmo. They told Obama, basically, to go to hell.

Our surrender in Afghanistan is now complete, along with the Afghani "allies" upping the murders of US troops.

Full coverage in The Boston Globe.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: afghanwar; cheeseeating; obamaforeignpolicy; obamalegacy; obamaswar; surrendermonkey; taliban; usalost; vanity; waronterror; whiteflag

1 posted on 10/02/2012 8:42:34 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: pabianice

Why should they talk with us? All they have to do is continue murdering our soldiers and wait for us to leave. Doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure this one out. Wonder if Karzai has his off shore bank accounts and future exile home ready?


2 posted on 10/02/2012 8:53:28 AM PDT by Old Retired Army Guy
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To: pabianice
This is my shocked face.

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Gee, I guess announcing an exit date wasn't that great of a negotiating tactic after all.

3 posted on 10/02/2012 8:54:28 AM PDT by newheart (At what point does policy become treason?)
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To: pabianice

There’s a surprise....


4 posted on 10/02/2012 8:54:58 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: pabianice
As of right now, 2014 is the end of COMBAT operations. NATO will still be in Afghan "en masse" well into the 2020s. We still have thousands deployed in Iraq despite what our glorious leaders say btw.
5 posted on 10/02/2012 8:56:02 AM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: Old Retired Army Guy
Karzai sides with all sides. He lets the dopers exist...the taliban...the Muslim rapists.

He's a Muzzie through and through. His country is now weaponized...against who??

But not for nothing...we got rid of a lot of hard nosed scummy muzzies.

6 posted on 10/02/2012 8:58:11 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: pabianice

Well, I hope Romney mentions this in the debate.


7 posted on 10/02/2012 9:01:40 AM PDT by married21 (As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: pabianice

Who were the idiots that thought something useful would come from talking with the Taliban?


8 posted on 10/02/2012 9:06:53 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (Actually, they lie when it suits them! The crooked MS media must be defeated any way it can be done!)
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To: The_Media_never_lie
Who were the idiots that thought something useful would come from talking with the Taliban?

It wasn't necessarily wrong talking to the Taliban. Most wars end at the negotiating table. What was wrong was making it clear that the negotiations were merely for the purpose of determining the terms of our surrender.

9 posted on 10/02/2012 9:10:41 AM PDT by newheart (At what point does policy become treason?)
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To: pabianice

The talks collapsed? There never have been any meaningful talks with the Taliban, and there never will be.

What a surprise! Unexpected!


10 posted on 10/02/2012 9:10:42 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: newheart
Who were the idiots that thought something useful would come from talking with the Taliban?

It wasn't necessarily wrong talking to the Taliban. Most wars end at the negotiating table. What was wrong was making it clear that the negotiations were merely for the purpose of determining the terms of our surrender.

Agreed.

11 posted on 10/02/2012 9:19:41 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (Actually, they lie when it suits them! The crooked MS media must be defeated any way it can be done!)
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To: pabianice

More like Jimmy Carter every day.


12 posted on 10/02/2012 9:27:48 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: Cicero

If you hit them hard enough and keep hitting them it is they who will ask for talks.

They are winning, why should they talk.


13 posted on 10/02/2012 9:29:23 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: pabianice

And the progs think Obama dealing with the mullahs in Iran will be any different?

What a mess the next President will inherit from this administration...


14 posted on 10/02/2012 9:50:07 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (Resurrect the House Committee on Un-American Activities (HUAC)...before there is no America!)
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No, of course not. Bowing and kissing the a$$e$ of filthy taliban is not going to get them to suddenly become civilized and stop the murdering.


15 posted on 10/02/2012 9:53:38 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Calling a savage a savage.)
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To: newheart
"Most wars end at the negotiating table."

The combatants usually wear uniforms too. We are dealing with foes who wage a spiritual war and their #1 strategy is too deceive. How do you negotiate with the spirit world/their allah god, lol?
16 posted on 10/02/2012 9:57:27 AM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: rollo tomasi

“The combatants usually wear uniforms too.”

After WWII, Nazi “werewolf” insurgents attacking allied troops while wearing civilian clothes were promptly executed.

Nazis are not much of a global problem anymore.


17 posted on 10/02/2012 10:14:05 AM PDT by MikeSteelBe (Austrian Hitler was, as the Halfrican Hitler does.)
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To: pabianice

The Taliban have the upper hand. They know we’re losing interest and leaving. The country will eventually be theirs.

But then they’ll have to govern it. Good luck with that.


18 posted on 10/02/2012 10:20:29 AM PDT by lurk
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To: pabianice
Guess the State Department didn't offer them enough concessions (money bribes).

When I first heard of this I was just dumbfounded that ANYONE would even attempt to negotiate with those backward, murdering, raping, women suppressing, barbarians. Seems the "One World" socialists don't remember the photo of the Taliban shooting a woman in a soccer stadium and all their other atrocities that occur on a daily basis, not to mention supporting al-Queda who attacked us on 9/11/01 and are still killing our Troops in Aftganiscrap.

Kinda like the world has forgotten about all the weekly suicide bombings in Israel before they built the wall, and yet blame Israel for not willing to give up their security to the so-called palestinians and Syria. Bill Clinton recently espoused that Israel should go back to pre-1967 borders. Guess he still remembers Hillary kissing Arafat's wife.

I watched a neutral documentary some years back, "The Children of Gaza" on Discovery or History channel, before they got into stupid reality shows. By the end, the female producer walked away in disgust as she witnessed their schools and parents teaching the children to hate anything Jewish or Israeli. Just one example: A child of about 4 and mother were interviewed and the child said she hates Jews. Four years old?

And politicians still believe that if we are "nicey, nice", to the Taliban, Palestinians, et al, and change their centuries old teaching of hate and conquest and adopt Western principles are living in a self-delusional dream world. Won't ever happen!

BTW, where is NOW with all the subjugation, mutilations, rapes, and murders of women in the Muslim world that occur daily? Actually, I like that they have all but disappeared from the political scene. Good riddance.

19 posted on 10/02/2012 10:30:25 AM PDT by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever)
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It’s not so much talking as telling them, “Stop doing that, or we’ll hit you again.” We should be drawing the lines in the sand.


20 posted on 10/02/2012 10:33:49 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: pabianice
Sort of an infinitely reusable headline:

Talks With Palestinians Taliban Collapse

21 posted on 10/02/2012 10:58:08 AM PDT by RicocheT (Eat the rich only if you're certain it's your last meal)
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To: pabianice

Short of killing everyone over there, the Taliban will remain a problem.


22 posted on 10/02/2012 11:53:25 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: pabianice

we went into secret negotiations with Taliban - through 3rd parties - and Karzai, as the titular Afghan leader complained, rightly

sensing Obama would leave no matter what anyway

the Taliban played Obama like an old guitar, never intending to come to an agreement, and played for time

meanwhile, I suspect, that Karzai has been attempting his own secret negotiations with the Taliban, trying to preserve his own life after the U.S. leaves by attempting some sort of even more grand “unity” government, including the Taliban and believing, like an idiot, that doing so will avoid the civil war the Taliban will create in their own repeat of the 1990s war for supreme and sole power in Afghanistan

I don’t know who is the bigger idiot in all this, Karzai or Obama.

On the other hand, two U.S. administrations have allowed so much politics to intrude on the military mission in Afghanistan that, outside of re-initiating the whole thing from scratch, I don’t think the mission can possibly be rescued, and that propsoect cannot obtain the backing of even a plurality of Americans. At this point I would prefer that not another American dies in Afghanistan in a war that American politics, not American military prowess, has lost.


23 posted on 10/02/2012 12:24:48 PM PDT by Wuli
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