Skip to comments.The <em>Real</em> Real Reason Romney is Losing
Posted on 10/02/2012 12:53:35 PM PDT by Paladins Prayer
...Republicans are befuddled when they see Obama leading among voters. One common explanation is that the polls are rigged. And while theyre no doubt flawed and the race likely closer than they indicate, its unreasonable to think Obama isnt at least slightly ahead of Mitt Romney; moreover, if Romneys internal polls told a different story, hed certainly trumpet them.
...The other common explanation is that Romney is a poor candidate, too ideologically weak, too stiff, too blue-blooded, and too hard to connect with. But to whom are we comparing him?But this is scary to consider. Its more comforting to talk about Romneys or the GOPs faults, which are easy enough to find, and believe our problems lie in our wanting political stars, not ourselves. Why, all we need is the right candidate a true conservative! We need bold leadership in the GOP. Or it could be, We need a vibrant third party. Its a nice dream. But Where are all the leaders? is the wrong question; it should be, Where are all the followers?
(Excerpt) Read more at thenewamerican.com ...
“Not exactly uplifting, but it’s what we need to know.”
It’s what we need to take to heart.
I don’t think we have reached the tipping point, but we are really close.
The problem is Romney.
Anyone with half a brain knew Romney would be the WORST candidate. Thus the ABR (anybody but Romney) movement in the primaries. Unfortunately we couldn’t agree to all get behind any one candidate and let Romney divide and concure us.
Now we are reaping what GOP insider sowed in the primaries by pushing this milk toast candidate on us, when we could of had a once in a life time leader like Gingrich as our candidate which would of destroyed Obama utterly.
I keep my eyes wide open and have studied this stuff for a long time; I know what reality looks like and I can admit it when my side has lost. Here is my own way of saying something similar to what Selwyn Duke wrote. I have posted the following here a few times since 2008:
America is dead and gone. The final nail in the coffin was the 2008 election of an African communist as President of the United States and Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces. America had a great run. I will remember it fondly for what it was, but see no point in hanging onto the past.
The United States of America is now little more than a land mass populated by cretins, ingrates, and parasites who have absolutely no respect for the military and who vote for big government to confiscate money from their neighbors so that it may be redistributed to them in exchange for their votes. It is not an America worth defending anymore. That America no longer exists.
The parasites outnumber the hosts now, and theres no going back. America is dead.
The Democrats have won.
Nothing lasts forever (shrug) and theres no point crying or whining about it. My recommendation to every decent human left out there is to throw some cold water in your face and proceed to Plan B. Figure out how to grab every government dime you possibly can before the parasites who comprise the Democrat party base gobble it all up. Look for angles. Look for refuge. Hide what you have. Get under the radar and game the system. Every man for himself.
Good luck, everybody.
“.. its unreasonable to think Obama isnt at least slightly ahead of Mitt Romney; moreover, if Romneys internal polls told a different story, hed certainly trumpet them.”
Completely disagree. It’s not only reasonable to think that Obama isn’t ahead, it’s completely logical and reasonable to have serious doubts that he’s ahead. The only indicator that we have that he isn’t losing this election are polls that are incredibl skewed and based on a previous election that had over the top Democrat participation. What’s unreasonable is expecting that same level of participation this year.
This election is not in the bag, but this just looks at another hit piece.
this is extremely laughable...and beyond sheer stupidity.
a campaign wouldnt even reveal their internals to the candidates mother.
and by the way, one could certainly say that the motives for posting threads like this are legitimately suspect at the very least.
The only case where a major party was deposed involved little more than a decapitation of the Whig national committee followed by the creation of Republican state committees formed by the Abolitionists, and whatever Whigs and Democrats who were finally willing to go along with the Abolitionists.
That's how we got the Republican party.
The same trick should work again ~ create a New Republican National Committee and invite the states to send their state chairmen to the NRNC first national meeting.
That ought to pretty much bust up the NRC and their running dog lackeys.
First, a new rule book that sets out to protect the franchise and end the lock the professionals have on what passes for Republican ideology at that point. The way I view this the Socons, Fiscalcons, Countryclubbers and possibly the business interests will need to each have formal internal caucuses that have a veto on candidates for President ~
I genuinely LOLed at this one....I may stop laughing sometime next week.
Gingrich would be behind 20 points right now.
I feel insulted: I escaped socialist nightmare and you won’t find better cure for commie delusions than actually living it.
Don’t blame immigrants - blame your own naivete and apathy, that allowed corruption of your youth.
He’s not losing.
You are not getting into the spirit of it. At this point, we are supposed to scream, cry, run around in a circle, and wet ourselves. Then we’re supposed to plan a trip to the ammo store to stock up before the zombie apocolypse hits on November 7.
Long editorial, but cutting through it he blames it on the voters. He uses the words culture, media, etc, but he means the voters. Its a bit early for that. its like the Romney 47% rule. Dont count your Dem votes until they vote.
It seems the other TNA posts today were claiming the polls were fake and Mitt was winning. Would that mean this writer is wrong? Or that the bad people just wont vote?
Gingrich would of had Obama wetting himself at the thought of the debate tomorrow.
A lot of truth in 500 words.
When Ronald Reagan’s internal polls showed him with a noticeable lead, he did not trumpet them. Why try to fight the media when the ultimate answer is showing them wrong on election day?
A friendly word of fraternal correction: Learn to love doing the right thing more than you love your operatic discouragement, and your desire to score rhetorical points against what has happened to us . . . in other words, against God. There are no Fates. Reality is Christian. What happens depends on our action (and God's intervention) every single day. Your patriotic brethren need you. Shut up and fight.
People (remember there are tens of millions of people voting, not just you) primarily make their Presidential choice based on likeability.
Gingrich had a massive gender gap WITHIN the Republican primary electorate - Romney has a big gap NOW in the general electorate, but Gingrich's would have been titanic.
Gingrich would have been savaged by the media ten times worse, and the all of the "asking for a divorce/open relationship over the phone" stuff would have annihilated him in the general far worse than it ended up doing in the primaries.
But hey, if you want to live in a delusional fantasy world that Gingrich would overcome that with a few debate zingers, go right ahead.
by the way, "a thousand teardrops" is some great music.
“must read” ping
I feel about this election the way I felt about 2008 - that it didn’t matter who won as much as many think. And the article explains why.
To put it in a nutshell, the problem isn’t Obama. The problem is the electorate. And in a democracy you get the government you deserve (yes, I hate democracy and know we are in a constitutional republic, but my statement stands).
The problem is Romney.
Gingrich would be down by 10-15 points now. You think he’d be polling better than Romney with any group? Especially women? You think the media wouldn’t be having even more of a field day with his past?
The era of the white male GOP presidential candidate may be over. White men are viewed with suspicion. Even if they are as squeeky clean and filled with integrity as Romney, they aren’t liked. If they are rich and white, even worse. As enough of the populace feels their wealth is ill-gotten. The GOP would only be doing better if they had a candidate like Marco Rubio or Ted Cruz, or a woman like Suzanne Martinez. Someone who reflects the changing demographics of the country, yet still is viewed as a reasonably solid conservative.
I wasn’t sold on Mitt Romney in the primaries. I am now.
Mitt Romney is a good and decent man. He performs many acts of charities that go unnoticed (Unlike his challenger, who’s every act of charity is staged, recorded and played back on the nightly news.)
Yeah, I know Romney’s got a liberal record as governor of Massachusetts. Reagan had a liberal record as governor of California. But I like what Romney said (when he thought it was off the record) about the 47%. He’s right. Compare what Obama said about the 53% of us who cling to our guns and God.
I also like the fact that Romney’s been successful as a businessman. I want a businessman in the White House - as opposed to the “Constitutional scholar” we have now. I want someone who understands how the free markets work and how this country can use it to our advantage.
A lot of people aren’t voting for Romney - they’re voting against Obama. I am not one of those. I think Romney is the right guy for the times.
Yes, Gingrich would have been Dead Man Talking.
I’ve written similar stuff here. And how seriously do I take it? I’ve lived in Seattle since 1966, in 7th grade.
I purchased a small but very nice new house on 13 acres in rural, central Kentucky two weeks before the 2008 election and moved here in August of 2011. We can survive off our land here and are almost set up to do just that.
This afternoon I wanted some protein but didn’t want meat. We were out of eggs because we took all we had to our relatives in Chicago this weekend. So I had to go to the chicken coop and grab the four eggs that were there. I fried up two of them.
What is coming has been clear to me - as if it has already happened - for five years though I admit it took longer to gestate than I thought it would. No matter who wins in November, you can know that a lot of history has been being held back until after the election, when the flood gates will be opened.
We are living in a time that more parallels the fall of Rome than any other time in the history of man. Except this is MUCH bigger. My farm is not a guarantee for us. It is merely a risk mitigator.
And the rationalizations continue....
I appreciate your reply but don't need you lecturing me. I will certainly continue to stand right there by everyone's side, tilting at those windmills. No way will I allow the scumbag Democrats to enjoy the fruits of their victory over America in peace.
You do realize that 85% of our immigrants come from the third world and Asia, don’t you? And you do realize that the vast majority of these people vote Demonrat after being naturalized, right?
I’m glad you’re an exception though. Bravo.
What happens depends on our action (and God’s intervention) every single day. Your patriotic brethren need you. Shut up and fight.
OTOH, there is Revelation 18:4
Then I heard another voice from heaven say:
Come out of her, my people,
so that you will not share in her sins,
so that you will not receive any of her plagues;
I agree with you to the degree that neither of these men is going to solve our problems for us. If we look to politicians, we are an insanely stupid people.
But Obama is a huge problem.
I agree with you. For Obama to be ahead, either more Democrats need to show up to vote than Republicans, or more Independents need to vote for Obama than for Romney. It’s difficult to see evidence for either of these possibilities.
The polls showing Obama ahead look to be assuming that there will be more Dem than GOP voters by a lot, like there was in 2008, but this isn’t 2008.
Well, the plain truth is that the party does not deserve followers. The party is a dark storm-cloud without rain; always speaking and promising, but never delivering on what it has said. (Thus I believe that Romney is the perfect candidate to represent the party.)
The issue is never the real issue - the real issue is always The Revolution. The cause is never the real cause - the real cause is the acquisition of power.
David Horowitz, quoting a 60s radical
I call bullsh!t.
"In his first term, he froze government hiring and approved tax hikes to balance the budget. [...]
"Reagan was involved in high-profile conflicts with the protest movements of the era. On May 15, 1969, during the People's Park protests at UC Berkeley, Reagan sent the California Highway Patrol and other officers to quell the protests [...] Reagan then called out 2,200 state National Guard troops to occupy the city of Berkeley for two weeks to crack down on the protesters. [...]
"[...] Reagan had been in office for only four months when he signed the bill [the "Therapeutic Abortion Act"], and stated that had he been more experienced as governor, it would not have been signed. [...]
"[...] One of Reagan's greatest frustrations in office concerned capital punishment, which he strongly supported. His efforts to enforce the state's laws in this area were thwarted when the Supreme Court of California issued its People v. Anderson decision, which invalidated all death sentences issued in California prior to 1972, though the decision was later overturned by a constitutional amendment. The only execution during Reagan's governorship was on April 12, 1967, when Aaron Mitchell's sentence was carried out by the state in San Quentin's gas chamber."
I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot.They have no passion to ignite men's souls.
So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.
I hope Romney wins and wouldn’t bet my life that he won’t. But I think you’re underestimating how clueless the average voter is.
This conservative website had to bend to accommodate the liberal Republican Romney in order to try to remove Hussein. That illustrates that conservatives are through.
As Patrick Henry said, “Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!”
My interpretation for me, is, “I know not what course others may take; but as for me, I will live a conservative life to the end of my days.”
I will not accept the liberal ways of others because I cannot and still be true to my conservative Christian beliefs.
I'm with you 100%. Newt would have trashed King Obama who would have ended in the funny farm. Newt is a Constitutionalists and he had the experience to fight like a real American.
The reason is the polls, according to Pew, are based on just 9% of the people selected for polling.Lord only knows what's going on there but DO NOT BELIEVE THE POLLS ANYMORE ~ THEY ARE ALL FAKE!
But Obama is a huge problem.
Obama is the reason I bothered to vote in the 2008 election and will vote in the upcoming one. It’s gonna be bad - very bad - no matter who wins. But leaving obama in really could be even more catastrophic in the end than the German blunder.
If one only looks at the average American’s response to hitler in his early days you’ll see what I mean. Many promenent Americans were big fans and thought he was really turning things around.
I can’t believe it, although you are probably right. Again, who’s failure is that? Poor brainwashed zombies who don’t know any better or fully able native adults who allowed commies to fester in your educational institutions?
There’s a large comet coming? Hekkla is going to blow up? WHAT?
The latest polls predict under 30% of the turnout will be from Republicans.
And we are supposed to accept that as a reasonable assumption just because they say so.
I swear to God that if tomorrow you saw 100,000 leftists saying the sky was yellow, half the “conservatives” would say, no, it’s definitely not yellow, but it’s gotta be greenish, at least...it’s so extreme to say it’s blue! We’ll be ridiculed!
Of course, it was the failure of those who allowed the institution of our ridiculous immigration policies. But the fact is that the majority of the people entering our country vote for socialists. They are a more proximal cause than the actions of those who made mistakes 50 years ago.
Thanks for your kind reply. I am a little amazed at how much your situation mirrors our own.
We have 10 acres, 3/4 of which is wooded. There’s a running creek at the bottom of the hill and a large creek about a half-mile down the road. We are also close to the Delaware River. We have a deep well and private septic. (I have been looking at hand pumps and generators lately.)
Our parcel is next to a huge state park where they occasionally hold “deer hunts” because the deer population gets out of control. There’s plenty of other critters around, too, although I can’t see eating anything other than the ducks and turkeys, if we have to. We also have a vegetable garden and a 2200 btu cast-iron wood stove with a cooktop grate and a removable ashtray so we never have to let the fire die. Of course, we have all the free fuel (mostly ash trees) we will ever need for the stove. I’ve got rifles, guns, ammo, and big dogs.
And by the way, I just now walked back from the chicken coop with three eggs. It’s cooling down around here these days and the egg production will be dropping off soon.
I can’t say we are totally prepared for economic apocalypse, but we are ahead of the game, I think.
8. Both Romney and Ryan have surrendered to having a pink, sodomized military.
“Not exactly uplifting, but its what we need to know.
....Its what we need to take to heart.”
Excellent piece, I read it through.
If what Mr. Duke is saying is true, then it’s time for conservative Euros to stop arguing with each other about what must be done to “save the country”, and time to start thinking about “where do we (as conservatives and traditionalist Euros) go from here?”
Mr. Romney may win, or he may lose, but at some point in the not-too-distant future (the state of Texas will be the key here, when its exploding demographic cohort of Hispanic babies come-of-voting-age) we’re going to reach a point where it becomes numerically impossible for a Republican (forget “conservative Republican, I’m talking about ANY Republican) to win the presidency.
At that point, the entire country may resemble New York, Illinois, or California — “one-party” states where conservatives live, to be sure, but who no longer have enough numbers to have a significant political voice. A political party with permanent minority status.
We are seeing the nation trend towards that today, with a huge cohort that no longer seems to care about traditional American values or freedoms. To them, “freedom” means a free Obamaphone, or endless recharges of their EBT cards.
In a nation where conservatives and traditionalists no longer have the numbers to influence policy, how will they keep their own traditions and heritage alive?
I cant say we are totally prepared for economic apocalypse, but we are ahead of the game, I think.
That’s how I see it.