The <em>Real</em> Real Reason Romney is Losing

The New American ^ | 02 October 2012 | Selwyn Duke

[Paladins Prayer]

...Republicans are befuddled when they see Obama leading among voters. One common explanation is that the polls are rigged. And while they’re no doubt flawed and the race likely closer than they indicate, it’s unreasonable to think Obama isn’t at least slightly ahead of Mitt Romney; moreover, if Romney’s internal polls told a different story, he’d certainly trumpet them.

...The other common explanation is that Romney is a poor candidate, too ideologically weak, too stiff, too blue-blooded, and too hard to connect with. But to whom are we comparing him?But this is scary to consider. It’s more comforting to talk about Romney’s or the GOP’s faults, which are easy enough to find, and believe our problems lie in our wanting political stars, not ourselves. “Why, all we need is the right candidate — a true conservative! We need bold leadership in the GOP.” Or it could be, “We need a vibrant third party.” It’s a nice dream. But “Where are all the leaders?” is the wrong question; it should be, “Where are all the followers?”

[cuban leaf]

I feel about this election the way I felt about 2008 - that it didn’t matter who won as much as many think. And the article explains why.

To put it in a nutshell, the problem isn’t Obama. The problem is the electorate. And in a democracy you get the government you deserve (yes, I hate democracy and know we are in a constitutional republic, but my statement stands).

[cuban leaf]

The problem is Romney.

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Nope. The problem is the party that chose him as their nominee.

[BlueStateRightist]

Gingrich would be down by 10-15 points now. You think he’d be polling better than Romney with any group? Especially women? You think the media wouldn’t be having even more of a field day with his past?

The era of the white male GOP presidential candidate may be over. White men are viewed with suspicion. Even if they are as squeeky clean and filled with integrity as Romney, they aren’t liked. If they are rich and white, even worse. As enough of the populace feels their wealth is ill-gotten. The GOP would only be doing better if they had a candidate like Marco Rubio or Ted Cruz, or a woman like Suzanne Martinez. Someone who reflects the changing demographics of the country, yet still is viewed as a reasonably solid conservative.

[Jaguarmike]

I wasn’t sold on Mitt Romney in the primaries. I am now.

Mitt Romney is a good and decent man. He performs many acts of charities that go unnoticed (Unlike his challenger, who’s every act of charity is staged, recorded and played back on the nightly news.)

Yeah, I know Romney’s got a liberal record as governor of Massachusetts. Reagan had a liberal record as governor of California. But I like what Romney said (when he thought it was off the record) about the 47%. He’s right. Compare what Obama said about the 53% of us who cling to our guns and God.

I also like the fact that Romney’s been successful as a businessman. I want a businessman in the White House - as opposed to the “Constitutional scholar” we have now. I want someone who understands how the free markets work and how this country can use it to our advantage.

A lot of people aren’t voting for Romney - they’re voting against Obama. I am not one of those. I think Romney is the right guy for the times.

[Paladins Prayer]

Yes, Gingrich would have been Dead Man Talking.

[cuban leaf]

I’ve written similar stuff here. And how seriously do I take it? I’ve lived in Seattle since 1966, in 7th grade.

I purchased a small but very nice new house on 13 acres in rural, central Kentucky two weeks before the 2008 election and moved here in August of 2011. We can survive off our land here and are almost set up to do just that.

This afternoon I wanted some protein but didn’t want meat. We were out of eggs because we took all we had to our relatives in Chicago this weekend. So I had to go to the chicken coop and grab the four eggs that were there. I fried up two of them.

What is coming has been clear to me - as if it has already happened - for five years though I admit it took longer to gestate than I thought it would. No matter who wins in November, you can know that a lot of history has been being held back until after the election, when the flood gates will be opened.

We are living in a time that more parallels the fall of Rome than any other time in the history of man. Except this is MUCH bigger. My farm is not a guarantee for us. It is merely a risk mitigator.

[Paladins Prayer]

And the rationalizations continue....

[Lancey Howard]

Shut up and fight.

I appreciate your reply but don't need you lecturing me. I will certainly continue to stand right there by everyone's side, tilting at those windmills. No way will I allow the scumbag Democrats to enjoy the fruits of their victory over America in peace.

[Paladins Prayer]

You do realize that 85% of our immigrants come from the third world and Asia, don’t you? And you do realize that the vast majority of these people vote Demonrat after being naturalized, right?

I’m glad you’re an exception though. Bravo.

[cuban leaf]

What happens depends on our action (and God’s intervention) every single day. Your patriotic brethren need you. Shut up and fight.

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OTOH, there is Revelation 18:4
Then I heard another voice from heaven say:

“‘Come out of her, my people,’
so that you will not share in her sins,
so that you will not receive any of her plagues;

[tumblindice]

[Shadowfax]

I agree with you to the degree that neither of these men is going to solve our problems for us. If we look to politicians, we are an insanely stupid people.

But Obama is a huge problem.

[TomEwall]

I agree with you. For Obama to be ahead, either more Democrats need to show up to vote than Republicans, or more Independents need to vote for Obama than for Romney. It’s difficult to see evidence for either of these possibilities.

The polls showing Obama ahead look to be assuming that there will be more Dem than GOP voters by a lot, like there was in 2008, but this isn’t 2008.

[OneWingedShark]

But “Where are all the leaders?” is the wrong question; it should be, “Where are all the followers?”

Well, the plain truth is that the party does not deserve followers. The party is a dark storm-cloud without rain; always speaking and promising, but never delivering on what it has said. (Thus I believe that Romney is the perfect candidate to represent the party.)

Examples:

1. The 2^ND Amendment.
   For all the talk about supporting the 2^ND Amendment, when was the last time the Republican party seriously proposed repeal of infringing laws like the NFA or the GCA? Oh, they like to milk the `90s-era Assault Weapons Ban [AWB]... but they don't deserve credit for that; the AWB had a sunset clause and expired automatically, thus the Republicans had to do nothing, literally nothing.
2. Property Rights
   When was the last time they reigned in the EPA, or handed a smack-down to "overzealous" police violating property rights in the War on Drugs?
3. Abortion
   Why is it that when they had the Executive and the Legislative [under Bush] they didn't even propose a token gesture toward making abortion illegal.
4. Fiscal Responsibility
   When is the last time the Republican Party considered cutting multiple agencies of the government? {Renaming and/or rolling the agency into another agency doesn't count.} When was the last time they proposed ending a big government program, like Social Security or Foodstamps?
5. Government Accountability
   Fast & Furious. That's all that needs to be said to prove this to be a lie; the operation of arming Mexican drug cartels was, on its face, both an Unwarranted Act of War and, by definition, State Sponsored Terrorism.
6. [Upholding] The Bill of Rights
   The single most destructive set of policies to the Bill of Rights is the War on Drugs. Period. Because of these policies the 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th, 9th and 10th Amendments have suffered damage. Furthermore, the Republican party is soft on Judicial Tyranny (some would call it Judicial Activism) allowing the Judiciary to, through the excuse of 'precedence', justify the Judiciary playing the children's game of telephone with our legal rights.
7. Morality
   The GOP prides itself on being the Party of Morality. But the recent teleprompter "the ayes have it" incident from the Republican National Convention shows their true heart, just as the proposed rule changes did, to be that of a Statist.

“The issue is never the real issue - the real issue is always The Revolution. The cause is never the real cause - the real cause is the acquisition of power.”
David Horowitz, quoting a 60s radical

[JustSayNoToNannies]

Reagan had a liberal record as governor of California.

I call bullsh!t.

"In his first term, he froze government hiring and approved tax hikes to balance the budget. [...]

"Reagan was involved in high-profile conflicts with the protest movements of the era. On May 15, 1969, during the People's Park protests at UC Berkeley, Reagan sent the California Highway Patrol and other officers to quell the protests [...] Reagan then called out 2,200 state National Guard troops to occupy the city of Berkeley for two weeks to crack down on the protesters. [...]

"[...] Reagan had been in office for only four months when he signed the bill [the "Therapeutic Abortion Act"], and stated that had he been more experienced as governor, it would not have been signed. [...]

"[...] One of Reagan's greatest frustrations in office concerned capital punishment, which he strongly supported. His efforts to enforce the state's laws in this area were thwarted when the Supreme Court of California issued its People v. Anderson decision, which invalidated all death sentences issued in California prior to 1972, though the decision was later overturned by a constitutional amendment. The only execution during Reagan's governorship was on April 12, 1967, when Aaron Mitchell's sentence was carried out by the state in San Quentin's gas chamber."

- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_reagan#Governor_of_California.2C_1967.E2.80.931975

[PapaBear3625]

The problem with moderates:

I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot.

So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.

Revelations 3:15-16

They have no passion to ignite men's souls.

[Paladins Prayer]

I hope Romney wins and wouldn’t bet my life that he won’t. But I think you’re underestimating how clueless the average voter is.

[Marcella]

Yes, conservatives are vastly outnumbered and will never be in control again. We have liberal Republicans running the party and that won't change because they have to woo millions to vote their way and the only way to do that is to be liberal as the entire country is liberal save for a few million actual conservatives.

This conservative website had to bend to accommodate the liberal Republican Romney in order to try to remove Hussein. That illustrates that conservatives are through.

As Patrick Henry said, “Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!”

My interpretation for me, is, “I know not what course others may take; but as for me, I will live a conservative life to the end of my days.”

I will not accept the liberal ways of others because I cannot and still be true to my conservative Christian beliefs.

[Logical me]

Now we are reaping what GOP insider sowed in the primaries by pushing this milk toast candidate on us, when we could of had a once in a life time leader like Gingrich as our candidate which would of destroyed Obama utterly.

I'm with you 100%. Newt would have trashed King Obama who would have ended in the funny farm. Newt is a Constitutionalists and he had the experience to fight like a real American.

[muawiyah]

Gingrich or Cain or Santorum or possibly even Bachmann would be winning although the polls would not necessarily show that.

The reason is the polls, according to Pew, are based on just 9% of the people selected for polling.Lord only knows what's going on there but DO NOT BELIEVE THE POLLS ANYMORE ~ THEY ARE ALL FAKE!