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Obama, Romney Tied Among Likely Voters (New Nat'l Journal poll, R up 8 w/Indies)
The National Journal ^ | Tuesday, October 2, 2012 | Shane Goldmacher

Posted on 10/02/2012 5:25:47 PM PDT by kristinn

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To: nhwingut
Back in the primaries my wife said she supported Romney because she thought he was ruthless and sneaky and we needed that to beat Obama. Now this vid---but there was one three weeks ago that the networks wouldn't run about Obama's socialist speech. Then there is Univision's "Fast and Furious" exposé. Hmmmm.

I don't think all this is coincidence. This IS the Romney campaign. You won't find Romney's fingerprints on this stuff, but . . .

21 posted on 10/02/2012 8:14:08 PM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually (Hendrix))
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To: kristinn

Did a polling company ever ask you your thoughts? Never asked me.....I want to know how many of us have ever been polled in this election cycle....or ever.


22 posted on 10/02/2012 11:56:56 PM PDT by tinamina
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To: HamiltonJay

I can’t fault your logic Hamilton Jay. All that info is plain to see in Rasmussen’s data. What I don’t get is why Ras is showing this to be so close? What kind of D+ skew is he using? Hasn’t he seen the intensity over the last 4 years, Tea Party, Chick Fil A, Obamacare? Is he covering his ass? Any reassuring words would be greatly appreciated. GOD BLESS


23 posted on 10/03/2012 5:16:44 AM PDT by lsrusso1971
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I can’t fault your logic Hamilton Jay. All that info is plain to see in Rasmussen’s data. What I don’t get is why Ras is showing this to be so close? What kind of D+ skew is he using? Hasn’t he seen the intensity over the last 4 years, Tea Party, Chick Fil A, Obamacare? Is he covering his ass? Any reassuring words would be greatly appreciated. GOD BLESS


24 posted on 10/03/2012 5:16:53 AM PDT by lsrusso1971
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To: kristinn

Yes, sure I believe that only 29% percent Republican will vote, which has never happened.


25 posted on 10/03/2012 5:59:10 AM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: kristinn

If Gov. Romney is taking independents by 8%, he will win the election going away.


26 posted on 10/03/2012 6:00:42 AM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: lsrusso1971

I don’t get the overall numbers as well, I don’t know what secret sauce ras or any polsters are using but there overall numbers just don’t line up with what the internals of their own polls suggest. It really doesn’t ad up.

For a neck and neck race with the numbers generally being reported, 48-48 or so that means Obama’s support is only down about 4 points from ‘08 and that just doesn’t add up in the least. His support is down 20% in the single largest constuency of his party base alone, (3.6% of overall votes roughly) and way behind where he was with Indies in 2008, he has ton from winning th by a good margin to losing them by a size able margin (easily another 3-4% of the overall electorate) and yet the polling total numbers are down just 4 points? Doesn’t add up.

Either the fix is already in and th voting doesn’t matter at all and polls are just being made to give cover post election or something is incredibly wrong with the polls.

I do not believe for one Minute this guy who didn’t get elected as him but on the anti bush, first black guy thing 4 years later in complete failure is somehow only down 4 points. This doesn’t pass the smell test folks.

We are in an economy that is graduating more college students than total jobs created!!!! Foreign policy is in shambles yet we are to buy this is a neck and neck race? Doesn’t pass the smell test.


27 posted on 10/03/2012 6:43:26 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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If he’s down 20% with a subset of his base (white dem) then shouldnt that drop be reflected in the total dem count? Still looks like Obama and Romney each get the same share of their respective party. Do you agree? Something isnt right.


28 posted on 10/03/2012 8:39:34 AM PDT by lsrusso1971
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To: HamiltonJay

I read a comment on another thread
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2939500/posts

that said the Rasmussen has admittedly increased the D/R ratio because more dems are answering his poll than R’s. Is that effing stupid to anyone else besides me? Shouldnt he base it on a reasonable turnout? What a jackass.


29 posted on 10/03/2012 8:45:13 AM PDT by lsrusso1971
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He’s not only down 20% with a subset of his base, he’s down BIG with the single biggest subset of his base.. He is DOWN across his base.

The numbers don’t add up RAS is sampling +3 D which would rougly counter the 8 point down in Indi’s if his base was showing the same support levels as 2008.. they aren’t. The numbers just don’t add up to me, not at all.. You can’t be down in every part of your base, down HUGE in the biggest subset of your base, and be down big in indis and be polling tied... something just isn’t adding up.


30 posted on 10/03/2012 8:45:13 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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Their numbers do not work. If the party splits Romney 92R - 6D - 49I, and Obama 5R - 91D - 41I, then the party ids are out of whack, or vice versa. The only party split I could find close to what they reported that worked out with both of them at 47 with rounding was 30% R, 31% I, 33% D. If 3% vote another party and Romney gets 2% to Obama’s 1% of the others, Romney moves to 48% and Obama drops, but still rounds up to 47%.


31 posted on 10/03/2012 9:08:16 AM PDT by Ingtar (Everyone complains about the weather, but only Liberals try to legislate it.)
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