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Democrats Support the Poor More than Republicans
10/3/2012 | econjack

Posted on 10/02/2012 9:20:32 PM PDT by econjack

In a debate with a friend who intends to vote for Obozo, I asked her: "Why?" Her answer: "Because Democrats support the poor and Republicans only support the rich and business." My response: "Given that Democrats controlled the Senate in all years but 9 since 1950 and the House for all but 7 years, do you really think they want to end poverty or control the poor through handouts?" She said: "They want to end it." My response: "A report out last summer showed that there is more poverty now than ever before, in both absolute and relative numbers, and that Democrats have controlled things for almost 60 years, don't you think maybe it's time for a different approach?" No response, so I asked: "As for business, doesn't a rising tide lift all boats? How many poor people have given you a job?"

She walked away...


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Debating with a liberal is an exercise in talking with someone who doesn't bother to find out the facts of what they believe. Sadly, there's no current events test to vote.
1 posted on 10/02/2012 9:20:35 PM PDT by econjack
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To: econjack

and who has been attending these $30,000 a plate fundraisers for Obama? The poor?

Where did the trillion dollar stimulus go?

Who is funneling money into “green” corporations??


2 posted on 10/02/2012 9:24:36 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: econjack

No, Democrats enslave the poor by giving them free stuff and promising them a future of free stuff, no work required. Republicans support getting the poor to support themselves by working.


3 posted on 10/02/2012 9:27:12 PM PDT by doc1019
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To: econjack

You just can’t fix stupid.


4 posted on 10/02/2012 9:27:39 PM PDT by PMAS (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing)
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To: GeronL

As the reverend Ike used to say, the best thing you can do for the poor is not become one of them. Right now, the country is on the Obama conveyor belt to poverty and few are wise enough to see it.

I don’t intend to watch or listen to the debate (!) simply because I cannot stand to watch or listen to that POS. Romney is not smart enough to go after those he has to get and to shore up his base...no, he will try to convince the black vote to go for him which has about as much chance of happening as one winning the power ball lotto twice in a row.


5 posted on 10/02/2012 9:30:07 PM PDT by Mouton (Voting is an opiate of the electorate. Nothing changes no matter who wins..)
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To: econjack

I feel your pain. My otherwise intelligent sister says with upmost confidence “Republicans only care about rich people”. She has the whole narrative down pat. You’d think critical thinking skills would kick in but the rats make excuses that she buys into.


6 posted on 10/02/2012 9:30:22 PM PDT by Aria ( 2008 wasn't an election - it was a coup d'etat.)
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To: econjack

Liberals don’t care about or want to know facts.


7 posted on 10/02/2012 9:31:12 PM PDT by Proud2BeRight
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To: doc1019

Exactly. I heard that “lady” in Cleveland yesterday on the radio bragging about her “free Obama phone”. WTF? Since when should a cell phone be part of the support for the poor? What line of warped logic came up with that one and where was the GOP when that piece of crap slid onto the books?


8 posted on 10/02/2012 9:32:33 PM PDT by econjack (Some people are as dumb as soup.)
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To: econjack

It all depends on your definition of “help”. You can give a man a fish the way the Democrats do or you can teach a man to fish the way the Republicans do. If you give a man a fish, he will become dependent upon you, if you teach him to fish, he will become independent and never have to count upon you coming by all the time to feed him. As old as that is, it is more important today than it has ever been. Besides, it drives the communists crazy.


9 posted on 10/02/2012 9:33:14 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Vote early and vote often.)
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To: econjack

The statistics are wonderful when you take Obama’s speech about how it will take him more than 4 years to correct what was done wrong over “decades” — considering how many of those decades were controlled by democrats.


10 posted on 10/02/2012 9:35:26 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: econjack

Democrats don’t care if everyone is in a soup line as long as they get to serve it.


11 posted on 10/02/2012 9:37:24 PM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (Ignorance is bliss- I'm stoked)
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To: econjack

Some people can be bought on the cheap.


12 posted on 10/02/2012 9:37:37 PM PDT by doc1019
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To: econjack
At least your friend listens to you a bit. My sister and a couple of my friends who are de-fault libs won't hear it. Any of it. When it comes to politics their minds swim in 100% Kool-Aid. You would find more open mindedness in a meth-tweaked pit bull.

You planted some seeds. Don't crowd her too much and maybe they will sprout.

13 posted on 10/02/2012 9:39:48 PM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: econjack

I always wonder what is this thing called “support” or “are for the poor”? What does it mean? In what way or ways? What’s the meat behind the statement?

If it’s redistribution, where does the money come from? I know, from rich people, and not only do they have enough, they don’t need any more, they don’t even need as much as they already have.

But the neurons to make this connection, sadly, are absent.


14 posted on 10/02/2012 9:41:00 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (This stuff we're going through now, this is nothing compared to the middle ages.)
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To: econjack

they support helping the poor....with other people’s money


15 posted on 10/02/2012 9:41:04 PM PDT by BookmanTheJanitor
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To: econjack
What line of warped logic came up with that one and where was the GOP when that piece of crap slid onto the books?

The so-called Lifeline program was passed in 1984, during the Reagan administration. It subsidized the installation of a landline in poor households in order to give them access to 911.

In 2007, the Democrat Congress voted to include cell phones in the program. President Bush signed the bill.

In both cases, a Democrat Congress -- but a Republican president.

16 posted on 10/02/2012 9:42:55 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA; Ignorance on parade.)
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To: Aria

Liberals refuse to think for themselves


17 posted on 10/02/2012 9:49:07 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: GeronL

‘Who is funneling money into “green” corporations??’

Not only that, don’t forget TARP and the endless rounds of “quantitative easing”. 0bama is blatantly in the pocket of Wall Street - it’s a joke that he’s going after Romney as a “one percenter”.

I hope Romney is a big improvement once elected, we’ll see...


18 posted on 10/02/2012 9:50:29 PM PDT by PreciousLiberty (Pray for America!!!)
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To: econjack

Sure they do. It’s just that Republicans support the poor with their own money, not everyone else’s.


19 posted on 10/02/2012 9:55:12 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: PreciousLiberty

hopefully


20 posted on 10/02/2012 9:55:56 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: econjack

I believe there are studies that show Republicans give much more to charity than Democrats.


21 posted on 10/02/2012 10:07:57 PM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: econjack

debating with liberals is like “maturbating with a cheese grater..”


22 posted on 10/02/2012 10:08:02 PM PDT by cardinal4 (If Baraq Hussein Obama had a son he would look like Rageboy)
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To: econjack
Literally speaking your friend is correct. Democrats do indeed ‘support’ the poor with other peoples money. Democrats will always need poor people so they can have power, it is a religion to them.
23 posted on 10/02/2012 10:14:38 PM PDT by Just mythoughts (Please help Todd Akin defeat Claire and the GOP-e send money!!!!!)
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To: cardinal4

Thank you. That is a visual I will do my damndest to forget. :)


24 posted on 10/02/2012 10:15:01 PM PDT by hoagy62 ("Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered..."-Thomas Paine. 1776)
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To: econjack
Democrats Support Exploits the Poor More than Republicans
25 posted on 10/02/2012 10:24:32 PM PDT by dps.inspect (rage against the Obama machine...)
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To: GeronL

She thinks for herself...but she’s convinced that liberals have it right and won’t pay attention to any other evidence. She and her husband even have a little statue of Obama in their living room! I hate that thing!!!!


26 posted on 10/02/2012 10:29:35 PM PDT by Aria ( 2008 wasn't an election - it was a coup d'etat.)
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To: econjack

>> In a debate with a friend who intends to vote for Obozo, I asked her:

I can think of only one reason why you would invest that kind of time...


27 posted on 10/02/2012 10:31:42 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: econjack
You cannot debate idiocy.

I have had many “Bush Tax Cuts for the Rich” discussions with Libtards. The question I always ask is, “so, Tax Revenues fell because of the Bush Tax Rate Cuts?”.

Of course they ALWAYS answer in the affirmative. When I inform them that Federal Tax Revenues ROSE by 35% from 2003 (full implementation) to 2007 (when the Pelosi - Reid cabal took over), they refuse to believe it.

You cannot gain anything arguing with a DRONE. Facts mean nothing to them.

If you showed them a Video of Obama drowning Kittens, it would just give them an idea for a new hobby.

28 posted on 10/02/2012 10:39:08 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (How do you insult an Obama Voter? Call them an Obama Voter.)
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To: econjack
You cannot debate idiocy.

I have had many “Bush Tax Cuts for the Rich” discussions with Libtards. The question I always ask is, “so, Tax Revenues fell because of the Bush Tax Rate Cuts?”.

Of course they ALWAYS answer in the affirmative. When I inform them that Federal Tax Revenues ROSE by 35% from 2003 (full implementation) to 2007 (when the Pelosi - Reid cabal took over), they refuse to believe it.

You cannot gain anything arguing with a DRONE. Facts mean nothing to them.

If you showed them a Video of Obama drowning Kittens, it would just give them an idea for a new hobby.

29 posted on 10/02/2012 10:41:33 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (How do you insult an Obama Voter? Call them an Obama Voter.)
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To: Aria

wow, they have an altar to their God, Obama??


30 posted on 10/02/2012 10:48:38 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: econjack

Very frustrating, isn’t it? Not a single factual argument can be made by an Obama / Democrat supporter to justify why they are voting the way they are. They are just cliche, circular arguments with no basis in reality or common sense. If the legislation is called the “Affordable Car Act” - then if you oppose it that means you are against the poor having healthcare. Whether or not the legislation would even be effective they don’t consider - it is how they “feel” about it.


31 posted on 10/02/2012 10:55:38 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: GeronL

She believes in Jesus but yes...the Obama statue - w/big smile showing all his teeth - is on a shelf next to the fireplace. BLECH!

I go to dinner there and try to not think about it.


32 posted on 10/02/2012 11:00:14 PM PDT by Aria ( 2008 wasn't an election - it was a coup d'etat.)
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To: econjack

You just can’t fix stupid


33 posted on 10/02/2012 11:15:36 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Aria

lol

I can only shake my head in disbelief


34 posted on 10/02/2012 11:15:46 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: econjack

bump


35 posted on 10/02/2012 11:51:27 PM PDT by KitJ (Shall not be infringed)
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To: GeronL
I can only shake my head in disbelief

And in profound sympathy!

36 posted on 10/03/2012 12:10:48 AM PDT by faux_hog
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To: GeronL

“Where did the trillion dollar stimulus go?”

A bunch of it went to public union pension funds. That must have been stimulating Obama’s campaign funds lately.


37 posted on 10/03/2012 12:19:50 AM PDT by haroldeveryman
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To: econjack

The top seven richest politicians in DC are democrats.


38 posted on 10/03/2012 12:45:31 AM PDT by exnavy (The time is upon us, fish or cut bait, may God guide your heart.)
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To: econjack
In a debate with a friend who intends to vote for Obozo, I asked her: "Why?"

I have a few ex-friends that expressed their intention to vote for obama, but no discussion using logic will change their small, closed semi-comatose shriveling organ that at one time was a brain.

Save your time and go take a nap.

39 posted on 10/03/2012 3:45:20 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist savages, start today.)
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To: okie01

That’s probably my biggest complaint about Bush...he never used his veto power and there were plenty of times when he should have...including this one. Like I said: Where was the GOP?


40 posted on 10/03/2012 4:29:16 AM PDT by econjack (Some people are as dumb as soup.)
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To: Gene Eric

Actually, there are two reasons: the one you are thinking of and the second is the hope that, sometime, somewhere, I’ll find a critically thinking liberal who still has enough neurons firing to engaged in meaningful debate. So far, it’s been tough to find any who will even listen.


41 posted on 10/03/2012 4:33:31 AM PDT by econjack (Some people are as dumb as soup.)
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To: econjack
Hand her ignorant arse a copy of the communist manifesto and cut her loose. She will either wake up or realize that she has been a communist all of her life.

LLS

42 posted on 10/03/2012 4:40:13 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer ("if it looks like you are not gonna make it you gotta get mean, I mean plumb mad-dog mean" J. Wales)
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To: econjack

Enable v. Tough Love


43 posted on 10/03/2012 4:47:46 AM PDT by monocle
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To: econjack

The usage of the word support is as euphemism for the word enslave.

The Democrats enslave the poor more than the Republicans. The war on poverty was a grand scheme for enslavement. It is now carried on into the third generation of slaves.


44 posted on 10/03/2012 4:51:45 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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To: USS Alaska

I have a few ex-friends

I hope it is for other reasons beside politics. I think if it is you are losing an opportunity. The reason is that Reagan, and many other conservatives were Democrats at one time and changed their thinking probably through friends and other folks who over time convined them to see the light.


45 posted on 10/03/2012 5:15:04 AM PDT by napscoordinator (GOP Candidate 2020 - "Bloomberg 2020 - We vote for whatever crap the GOP puts in front of us.")
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To: LibLieSlayer

I’ve done as much with a lib - shown them the communist manifesto and asked them to tell me what the difference between it and the democrat agenda was.

They said something to the effect of implementing it differently, ie, not by force like the evil communists did, but like the good democrats intend.


46 posted on 10/03/2012 5:18:50 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: MrB
Then counter with, “Every time it is tried... it fails... because it is inherently evil and the ruling lite will use force when benevolence doesn't work". Then tell them to look around and ask them how their new world order is working... then ask them how long do we have before the violent indoctrination begins. It truly is laughable. Some of these people are insane and some belong to satan. Not all are salvageable.

LLS

47 posted on 10/03/2012 5:22:56 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer ("if it looks like you are not gonna make it you gotta get mean, I mean plumb mad-dog mean" J. Wales)
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To: LibLieSlayer

My discernment tells me that any agenda that promotes the centralization of power is simply building the kingdom of Satan.

He will rule a one-world government with a one-world religion under his control.

Now... which ideology is working toward this goal and which one is resisting?


48 posted on 10/03/2012 5:24:55 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: MrB

Amen amen amen!!!

LLS


49 posted on 10/03/2012 6:27:36 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer ("if it looks like you are not gonna make it you gotta get mean, I mean plumb mad-dog mean" J. Wales)
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To: econjack

“Because Democrats support the poor and Republicans only support the rich and business.” Given that Democrats controlled the Senate in all years but 9 since 1950 and the House for all but 7 years, do you really think they want to end poverty or control the poor through handouts?” She said: “They want to end it.”

My response is always:

Do you believe that politicians act in their own self interest to hold onto power? Answer 95% of the time: “yes”.

Then I ask; Since that is the case,how would it be a benefit to Democrats if there were fewer poor people? Wouldn’t that cut into their power base? Shouldn’t Democrats then want there to be as many poor people as possible? And since Republicans are for the rich, wouldn’t it benefit them to make sure there were as many rich people as possible? I mean, how could they win an election otherwise? Assuming your premise is true.


50 posted on 10/03/2012 11:20:33 AM PDT by BizBroker (Democrats- Don't want 'em, Don't need 'em, Can't use 'em, Couldn't afford 'em if I did!)
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