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1 posted on 10/03/2012 10:31:02 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Should it really matter to anyone what someone else thinks of their ethics?


2 posted on 10/03/2012 10:40:50 AM PDT by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: Kaslin

This has been going on for decades and is pure selfishness on the part of the parents. God help them.


3 posted on 10/03/2012 10:50:03 AM PDT by pops88 (Standing with Breitbart for truth.)
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To: Kaslin

There are facets to this that are less controversial, but need the help of technology.

For example, fetuses are becoming increasingly large, due to healthier diets, but women’s organs are not adjusting to be able to deliver larger babies.

This means that more and more deliveries are being made by Cesarian section. And if women cannot get such surgery, it can kill both their child and them. (Granted, Cesarian section has been done since Biblical times.)

It might be a natural remedy for this, that instead of having one big baby, women would have more normal sized twins. And this could be where technology would pay off, by stimulating the fertilized embryo to divide in two.

Just one possibility.


4 posted on 10/03/2012 11:20:22 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (DIY Bumper Sticker: "THREE TIMES,/ DEMOCRATS/ REJECTED GOD")
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Let’s please understand the science of fertility treatments.

There are ways to never destroy any baby or embryo.

One cheap way to supposedly (debatable as it has some harmful side effects) increase fertility is to take a pill called Clomid, which will allow more than one egg to ripen in a cycle. Women can get this from other women in the black market so this can be abused. This can lead to multiples.

Another poor way to increase fertility is to have your doctor prescribe injectible fertility meds, which can cause a whole passel of ripening eggs in one cycle, and then at trigger time have either sex with the husband or even an insemination. This supposedly is controlled by the good doctor checking the follicles on ultrasound and then if too many are ripening to tell the couple TO ABSTAIN under risk of high order multiple conceptions. There could be unscrupulous doctors as well as over zealous parents.

The latter is probably how this couple got into the situation.

IVF, as scary as it sounds to pro-lifers, can be as pro life as you are!! Moreso! I am a walking, talking example. While the woman does take fertility drugs to increase the number of eggs, the eggs are then harvested out through a pipette and kept in the lab. They can then be fertilized one at a time or in a bunch by the collected sperm on the husband. The then teeny embryos can be placed back in the uterus (a doctor malpractices if he places back more than 2) or frozen with no ill effects. There is no need to destroy a one.

However, about half of them are not good. Sometimes more, sometimes less. Just as about half on average of embryos created by sex in a wife,s Fallopian tubes are not good. They will never become a baby. We can’t tell without testing which embryos have a chance of developing even until the 13th week of pregnancy. Ask around. Many women have had early miscarriages and this is why — the embryo was messed up in the chromosomes and would never develop, either at all or long enough to make it into the 2nd trimester. This is natural.

Some families going in for IVF end up with the number of kids they wish to raise, and extra embryos besides. They are given a choice: have those extra embryos destroyed, donated to science (destroyed), or donated. My beautiful precious baby girl is from a wonderful family’s donation. They could have had her destroyed! I almost can’t fathom that. Instead, she is loved and adored and please Gd may she live a good, long, happy life. And the joy of caring for her prenatally and from birth adds to our happiness as parents.

So don’t throw the baby out with the bath water (I did not say that! Sheesh!)

IVF is a good thing and has made many freepers happy parents.


10 posted on 10/03/2012 12:36:40 PM PDT by Yaelle
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