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Massachusetts rapist wants to see victimís child
NY Daily News ^ | 9/26/2012 | ERIK ORTIZ

Posted on 10/03/2012 2:30:14 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants

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To: Blood of Tyrants
——A Massachusetts man who pleaded guilty to raping a 14-year-old in 2009 -——

That was three years ago....and I would assume this POS is cooling his heels in a prison cell....for pleading guilty to raping a 14 year old....

She is being asked to bring junior to his prison / S

41 posted on 10/03/2012 3:40:48 PM PDT by Popman (In a place you only dream of Where your soul is always free)
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To: dayglored
There are those people who mistakenly believe that the punishment should end at the end of the period of confinement. Plenty of laws extend the punishment on for the remainder of one's life ~ like embezzling money. Some states explicitly prohibit bonding companies from writing bonds for someone like that for any purpose ~ they couldn't get a paper route! Other states don't.

Pedophiles are usually released, if at all, under lifelong rules regarding contact with children.

42 posted on 10/03/2012 3:45:27 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
> There are those people who mistakenly believe that the punishment should end at the end of the period of confinement. Plenty of laws extend the punishment on for the remainder of one's life ~ like embezzling money. Some states explicitly prohibit bonding companies from writing bonds for someone like that for any purpose ~ they couldn't get a paper route! Other states don't. Pedophiles are usually released, if at all, under lifelong rules regarding contact with children.

My personal opinion is that if we plan to restrict the prior rights and privileges of a person convicted of a crime, then the sentence should be explicit in that regard. For example (just making up the numbers for an example):

To be confined for a period of 10 years in prison, and made to pay a fine of $10,000 regardless of how long it takes, and to be stripped of the 2nd Amendment right to bear firearms for life, to be stripped of the privilege of voting for life, to be restrained by court order from contact with the following individuals for life, to not consume alcohol for life, to not drive a car for life, ...
... and so on, whatever the sentence may be. Make it PERFECTLY CLEAR that the perp does not revert to normal citizenry, even at the end of incarceration or completion of certain other parts of the sentence.

I see nothing wrong, and everything right, with making ALL conditions of penalty and punishment absolutely clear during sentencing.

It would save a lot of subsequent trouble, such as in this unfortunate instance.

43 posted on 10/03/2012 4:02:02 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: Popman

From the article, it appears he plead guilty to the lesser charge of statutory rape and avoided prison time with a long probation period instead.


44 posted on 10/03/2012 4:10:22 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied.)
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To: dayglored

Some states have laws that spell it all out. Still, there will always be some judge who feels sorry for somebody and try to show discretion.


45 posted on 10/03/2012 4:10:39 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: drpix
Still, this is Massachusetts ~ they do things that are unusual. For example, about 30 years back a couple of thugs beat up and killed a couple of East Asian kids. The deed was done with baseball bats.

The defense attornies argued successfully in a MA court that since it wasn't possible to figure out which bat had killed which victim, murder was not provable.

I believe they changed their laws a bit since then, but you'd think that by the time the 20th Century had come around even MA legislators would have figured out how to describe mob or group action and how to hold members accountable for the crimes.

46 posted on 10/03/2012 4:14:55 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Casie
I will take my fellow rednecks and hillbillies over liberal elitists any day of the week.
47 posted on 10/03/2012 4:21:29 PM PDT by Stonewall Jackson ("I must study politics and war that my sons may have liberty to study mathematics and philosophy.")
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Hopefully someone will kill him and save her and her child from being emotionally raped by the worthless sack of garbage.


48 posted on 10/03/2012 4:27:22 PM PDT by Dr.Zoidberg (With (R)epublicans like these, who needs (D)emocrats?)
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To: muawiyah
"...figure out which bat had killed which victim..."

In many/most states, going back for ages, any death (even of another perpetrator) during the commission of felony is grounds for a murder convictions against all the perpetrators (even getaway car drivers) who where provably part of the initial felony. The courts and or laws in Massachusetts are truly demented!

49 posted on 10/03/2012 4:29:47 PM PDT by drpix
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To: muawiyah
> Some states have laws that spell it all out. Still, there will always be some judge who feels sorry for somebody and try to show discretion.

You bring up an interesting and critical point. What if the crime was committed in State A, and after some period of time, the victim(s) move to State B (we don't want to restrict them). Then after completing the jail sentence, the perp decides to move to State B.

And let's say State B doesn't have the tight restrictions of State A. Can the perp avoid the lifelong aspects of his sentence from State A?

The only way to enforce the lifelong restrictions from State A is that part of his sentence is to be required to remain in State A for life.

IANAL so I don't know what happens in such a case, but it sure seems this life-long aspect can get complicated if it's not a federal crime.

50 posted on 10/03/2012 4:38:20 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: dayglored
I'm glad your later comments "corrected" the argument you appeared to be making in the comment I replied to.

Don't judge all or even a majority of FReepers by a thread that happened to be pinged onto by those who think alike and post in gangs. And never go along to get along - not even for one comment - not even on FR!

51 posted on 10/03/2012 4:40:13 PM PDT by drpix
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To: dayglored

“You screwed up and committed a crime. The results of that crime are still around. Sorry, you don’t get all your rights back, just because you’ve completed your sentence.”

The way I see it, I don’t think that depriving felons of guns is wrong per se, but the arbitrary way it is done is. Being deprived of their guns should be an explicit part of their sentence. I.E. ‘X was sentenced to 10 years in prison for armed robbery and is prohibited from owning or using guns for 25 years/life or whatever’.


52 posted on 10/03/2012 4:41:01 PM PDT by sinsofsolarempirefan
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan
> The way I see it, I don’t think that depriving felons of guns is wrong per se, but the arbitrary way it is done is. Being deprived of their guns should be an explicit part of their sentence. I.E. ‘X was sentenced to 10 years in prison for armed robbery and is prohibited from owning or using guns for 25 years/life or whatever’.

Yep. See my comment #43. We're in complete agreement.

53 posted on 10/03/2012 7:58:09 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

A 9mm to the head would fix the visitation situation.


54 posted on 10/04/2012 5:02:35 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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