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Obama and Romney to face real lie detector test during debate
The Daily Caller ^ | Oct. 3, 2012 | Alex Pappas

Posted on 10/03/2012 2:40:13 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY

When Barack Obama and Mitt Romney face off for the first time at tonight’s presidential debate in Denver, they’ll also be taking a lie detector test.

A spokesman for the group Americans for Limited Government told The Daily Caller on Wednesday they have contracted with a company to use new truth detecting technology to determine whether either candidate is lying during the debate.

“For the first time, within a few hours of a political debate, the American people will know if the candidates are telling the truth, and better be able to judge what promises are real, and which ones are nothing more than political pandering,” Bill Wilson, president of Americans for Limited Government said.

The conservative-leaning group says they hope to release the results from Voice Analysis Technology within three hours of the debate.

“The operating assumption by the general public is that if a politician’s mouth is moving, he or she must be lying, by putting Obama and Romney to the test, we will find out if this is true,” Wilson said.

Voice Analysis Technology, according to a news release, has done work for high-profile criminal cases including for the case of Natalie Holloway, the Alabama high school student who died in Aruba.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailycaller.com ...


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1 posted on 10/03/2012 2:40:16 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY
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To: Free ThinkerNY

If true, there are three likely outcomes:
1. The debate will look like the “truthful politician” skit on Johnny Carson with the endless beeps and hilarious corrections.
2. It won’t go off, because Obama thinks what he says is true.
3. We won’t hear anything, because the media won’t report the outcome or outright edit the detector’s output.


2 posted on 10/03/2012 2:43:27 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: Free ThinkerNY

NFWAY!

Oh, and I bet it’ll beep more for Romney than Bambi.


3 posted on 10/03/2012 2:43:30 PM PDT by Thorliveshere
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To: Free ThinkerNY

My BS Meter is already set...


4 posted on 10/03/2012 2:43:42 PM PDT by Beaten Valve
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Hope they installed a dedicated 200 amp circuit to handle the power surge when the serial liar community organizer starts to puke out his lies.


5 posted on 10/03/2012 2:46:03 PM PDT by Proud2BeRight
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To: Free ThinkerNY

If it really is a working lie detector, it will go berserk when 0bama says “good evening.”


6 posted on 10/03/2012 2:46:33 PM PDT by henkster (With Carter, the embassy staff was still alive.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

A sociopath (read “Obama”) can lie convincingly. No machine can tell the difference.


7 posted on 10/03/2012 2:47:08 PM PDT by SparkyBass
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To: SparkyBass
A sociopath (read “Obama”) can lie convincingly. No machine can tell the difference.

This is exactly what I thought. A "lie detector" only tells you whether someone is stressed. It doesn't tell you why they are stressed.

Scrupulously honest people have the most difficulty with "lie detectors", because they are stressed about simply being asked if they are being honest.

Sociopaths have no problems with "lie detectors", because they are so practiced at lying, it doesn't stress them.

8 posted on 10/03/2012 2:51:40 PM PDT by justlurking (The only remedy for a bad guy with a gun is a good WOMAN (Sgt. Kimberly Munley) with a gun)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

The Bill Clinton Doctrine:

“It’s not a lie if you can convince yourself it’s true at the moment in time when you say it.”
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9 posted on 10/03/2012 2:52:12 PM PDT by Iron Munro (US Embassies Come and Go But An Obama Apology Lasts Forever)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I hope the Fact Checkers are ready for this.


10 posted on 10/03/2012 2:52:32 PM PDT by DallasSun (Courage~Fear that has said its prayers.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

In the future, all political candidates will be ventriloquist’s dummies.

(Actually, considering Obama and his teleprompter, we’re almost there).


11 posted on 10/03/2012 2:52:37 PM PDT by Stosh
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I can see in to the future... Results are...

Obama 100% true and faithful

Romney disgusting liar out to further the war on women... and children... and the handicapped... and the poor... Disgusting!


12 posted on 10/03/2012 2:52:38 PM PDT by Syntyr (Happiness is two at low eight!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I hope the Fact Checkers are ready for this.


13 posted on 10/03/2012 2:52:47 PM PDT by DallasSun (Courage~Fear that has said its prayers.)
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To: Beaten Valve

IIRC, in previous presidential debates, CNN had a website feed that showed real-time (b.s.) reactions to candidates’ responses.


14 posted on 10/03/2012 2:52:47 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I also so hope the news last night was wrong and the Romney campaign has not given him a list of “zingers”...it is unpresidential and will ring so false coming from Romney. Not that he is too dignified. He is just not a funny or clever guy.


15 posted on 10/03/2012 2:54:37 PM PDT by DallasSun (Courage~Fear that has said its prayers.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Obama does not believe he is lying.


16 posted on 10/03/2012 2:56:21 PM PDT by douginthearmy
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Bull! Mine as well....
17 posted on 10/03/2012 2:56:52 PM PDT by halfright (FAST & FURIOUS! DON'T ALLOW THEM TO DIVERT YOUR ATTENTION.)
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To: Iron Munro

To: Free ThinkerNY
The Bill Clinton Doctrine:

“It’s not a lie if you can convince yourself it’s true at the moment in time when you say it.”
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Excellent


18 posted on 10/03/2012 2:56:58 PM PDT by patriotspride
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To: Stosh
here y'go... already there :)


19 posted on 10/03/2012 3:00:18 PM PDT by SparkyBass
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Typical person speaking with lie detector active.

Obama speaking with lie detector active.

20 posted on 10/03/2012 3:02:44 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: DallasSun
I hope the Fact Checkers are ready for this.

I hope the Fact Checkers' Fact Checkers are ready for this.

Recently, the 'Fact Checkers' have not been that great in checking the facts. Too many of them seemed to be agenda (as in Leftist) driven, rather than accuracy driven.
21 posted on 10/03/2012 3:03:50 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Free ThinkerNY

This is BS because stress the factor that is measured and speaking live in front of millions is stressful for everybody. There will be nothing real here.


22 posted on 10/03/2012 3:03:50 PM PDT by Chickensoup (STOP The Great O-ppression)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

What utter B.S. Actions speak louder than words ... put the accomplishments (good & bad) of both men up side-by-side and readily see who should be in jail and who should be in the WH.


23 posted on 10/03/2012 3:04:31 PM PDT by MissMagnolia (Being powerful is like being a lady. If you have to tell people you are, you aren't. (M.Thatcher))
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Did somebody say lie detector?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HiHrBTAhWI&feature=youtube_gdata_player


24 posted on 10/03/2012 3:06:53 PM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (Ignorance is bliss- I'm stoked)
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To: TomGuy

I must have missed that. I am so glad we have fact checkers now and responding so quickly. It seemed it took forever in the past debates to get the real facts out.


25 posted on 10/03/2012 3:07:47 PM PDT by DallasSun (Courage~Fear that has said its prayers.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Obama will tell the truth 110% of the time, and Romney will lie 100% of the time.


26 posted on 10/03/2012 3:09:27 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

The problem is that Obama believes his own lies, and the rest of the time, he doesn’t even know when he is lying. For instance, if he doesn’t know how much the deficit is, he cannot lie about it.

Besides, we all learned from watching Homeland that Muslims can beat a polygraph test because it’s ok to lie to non-Muslims.


27 posted on 10/03/2012 3:15:38 PM PDT by Eva (Obama and Hillary lied, Americans died.)
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28 posted on 10/03/2012 3:20:12 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Free ThinkerNY

The first beep will come when Barack Obama says, “Hello, my name is Barack Obama.”

The second beep will come when Mitt Romney says, “Hello, my name is Mitt Romney, and I’m a republican.”

When Obama claims to be an American, and Romney claims to be a conservative, the machinery will melt.


29 posted on 10/03/2012 3:22:33 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (If your only choice is evil, you've either died and gone to hell, or you're a Republican.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Hope they have an honest microphone that doesn’t “correct” voice patterns before the VSA goes to work.


30 posted on 10/03/2012 3:23:24 PM PDT by stboz
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Pathological Liars like obama do not ‘detect’ well on sensors, machines and the like ... Pathological Liar believe their own lies...


31 posted on 10/03/2012 3:24:38 PM PDT by ICCtheWay
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To: Lurkina.n.Learnin

DARN you beat me to it !!
Tooooo FUNNY


32 posted on 10/03/2012 3:32:24 PM PDT by MtnMan101
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To: MtnMan101

Anyway possible to point a few of those things at the talking heads? That might be revealing.....


33 posted on 10/03/2012 3:47:12 PM PDT by louie2
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Voice stress truth detectors have been around for years, and speeches and debates take them into account, with all kinds of evasions.

1) Lies can be of commission or omission. If you know you would be caught in a lie if you answered directly, don’t answer directly.

2) Avoid absolutes. Practice sound bites ahead of time and insert them in when the opportunity presents.

3) Intentional stresses and attacks will often conceal the stress of lies.

This list really goes on and on.


34 posted on 10/03/2012 3:50:58 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (DIY Bumper Sticker: "THREE TIMES,/ DEMOCRATS/ REJECTED GOD")
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To: Free ThinkerNY

this is a machine we have had for a while, it’s called a PSE, Psychological stress evaluator and it works...


35 posted on 10/03/2012 4:12:23 PM PDT by The Wizard (Madam President is my President now and in the future)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Did these guys re ewe their results?


36 posted on 10/04/2012 5:08:09 AM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (Ignorance is bliss- I'm stoked)
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To: Lurkina.n.Learnin

Release


37 posted on 10/04/2012 5:08:59 AM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (Ignorance is bliss- I'm stoked)
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To: The Wizard

The signals any machine will get will have been gained through initial editing at the source plus the digital reduction algorithms used before uplink transmissions thru satellite and digital fiber optics. ( Addditionally audio compression limiters will modulate the extreme low and high amplitudes of the debaters’ voices to reduce audio distortion so that the sound sources have a narrow bandwidth of say 20 to 30 db’s.} Then the signals are processed again before sending them on thru cable networks to the viewer’s television sets including the equip used to “process” the voices for stress analysis. There will not be anyway these folks can get a direct feed from the candidates mouths so that their “stress” modulation peaks and valleys can be analyzed directly by themachine itself.

In short without a direct feed from candidate to machine, the data will be useless. What’s worse, if the folks at the preprocessing side know about the “lie detector” folks, they might be politically motivated to tinker with the audio feed to introduce false stress artifacts of the hated politcal candidate into the uplink feed.

Both candidates are getting intel updates that they can’t necessarily talk about, so if they are asked questions touching on sensitive data, the machine may pick up on
both candates personal stress when they avoid or spin a question that relates to that sensitive material. (though I suppose an answer such as “I will not talk about that issue since national security may be involved” might be how an otherwise honest candiate gets around such questions)


38 posted on 10/04/2012 7:00:46 AM PDT by mdmathis6 (We have grieved the Holy Spirit, with our Dark hearts and dark minds turned against God!)
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