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Undecided voters in focus group swing sharply toward Romney
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Posted on 10/03/2012 8:57:07 PM PDT by NoobRep

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To: tumblindice

You are right on, and I will second your entry.

“Obama was expecting `McCain II’ and got a buzzsaw instead.
Romney did what a challenger is supposed to do and Obama looked like a chump.”


51 posted on 10/03/2012 11:00:07 PM PDT by Islander2
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To: rwfromkansas

I liked the part where he said, “You want government to be able to pick and choose winners, but you can’t even do that... you’re real good at picking losers though.” Lil Barry shot him a look that would freeze a thermometer.


52 posted on 10/03/2012 11:00:43 PM PDT by ponygirl (Be Breitbart.)
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To: rwfromkansas

Yep, he hammered Obama over th 90 billion to green energy.

“Would have paid for 50 years of the so-called big il welfare.”

“Could have hired two million teachers with it.”

“Talk about piking winners and losers...you only choose lossers.”

“Most of the recipients were big campaign donors of yours.”

It was a gift that kept on giving!

I wish he would have summed up the 80 billion dollar issue with a line like this,

“Quite frankly, Mr. President, and with all due respect, if you ahd worked for my investment firm and made any invetstment like this, you would have been fired.

“I hope ther American people remember that come November. Sort of like a Hollywood actor I know said, If they aren’t doing the job, you just gotta let ‘em go.”


53 posted on 10/03/2012 11:11:53 PM PDT by Jeff Head ( Freedom is not free, never has been, never will be (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: TennTuxedo

The only one to blame is Obama.

4 years in a cocoon and he is unable to debate anything, he has no connection to reality


54 posted on 10/03/2012 11:16:15 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Rome2000

That was pretty damn funny! Still laughing.


55 posted on 10/03/2012 11:44:20 PM PDT by xuberalles ("The Right Stuff" Conservative Novelties http://www.zazzle.com/xuberalles)
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To: Jeff Head
It was a gift that kept on giving!

I liked this from Romney:

I just don’t know how the president could have come into office, facing 23 million people out of work, rising unemployment, an economic crisis at the -- at the kitchen table and spent his energy and passion for two years fighting for “Obamacare” instead of fighting for jobs for the American people.

Further down in the transcript:

... First of all, I like the way we did it in Massachusetts. I like the fact that in my state, we had Republicans and Democrats come together and work together. What you did instead was to push through a plan without a single Republican vote. As a matter of fact, when Massachusetts did something quite extraordinary, elected a Republican senator to stop “Obamacare,” you pushed it through anyway. So entirely on a partisan basis, instead of bringing America together and having a discussion on this important topic, you pushed through something that you and Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid thought was the best answer and drove it through ...

56 posted on 10/03/2012 11:51:56 PM PDT by Lmo56 (If ya wanna run with the big dawgs - ya gotta learn to piss in the tall grass ...)
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To: American Constitutionalist

either that or so uninformed and havent read internet news to get truthful news


57 posted on 10/04/2012 12:24:34 AM PDT by Heavy Fuel
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To: WOSG

“Romney needs to double down on this and drive home his messages on Obamacare, Medicare, spending, deficit etc.”

Those are important, but he will win the election on the jobs message. Jobs are not soemthing down the road (even 2013) - they are a crisis NOW.


58 posted on 10/04/2012 2:41:35 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: WOSG

Obama wanted to weaken Romney’s ObamaCare opposition by painting it as similar to RomneyCare; Romney did a great job drawing clear distinctions.


59 posted on 10/04/2012 2:43:20 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: JediJones

“But unfortunately Romney didn’t even try to argue why he needs more Republicans to be elected in Congress to get his plans through.”

That isn’t Romney’s job.

It’s ours — the conservative base.

Romney sent a clear message to *US* tonight: get to work turning the Senate races around.

Nevada. Ohio. Missouri. Maine. Pennsylvania. Wisconsin. Montana. Connecticut. Massachusetts. Virginia. Indiana.


60 posted on 10/04/2012 2:45:57 AM PDT by sf4dubya (I rebelled against my parents by becoming a conservative. REJECT THEN STOP SOCIALISM THIS NOV!)
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To: dsutah

Too true; Obama didn’t look good at all (though he spoke more clearly than I thought he would without his Speak & Spell - at least early on). I posted here months ago that Obama wouldn’t engage in debates, and now you can see why I thought he’d somehow avoid them. For too long he was flying high by avoiding any critical or even impartial questions about his performance & policies; it is horrible timing to get ripped apart on them so close to the election.


61 posted on 10/04/2012 2:46:52 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: BillyBoy

Well he is black (or at least mocha) and a Harvard trained lawyer so he must be a masterful debater and if he isn’t...Then just have his consigliere Axelrod get his opponents divorce records unsealed


62 posted on 10/04/2012 2:50:47 AM PDT by dennisw (Government be yo mamma - Re-elect Barack Obama)
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To: taterjay

He was certainly heartbroken; the spinmeisters were all over this afterwards (when the results came in) about how people who though Romney won weren’t necessarily going to vote for him. That guy Rick Maddow was asking an Omaba strategist if there was a deliberate plan to not attack Romney in the debate (trying to hold out hope for Obama’s dwindling fans, and MSNBC’s dwindling viewers, that this was anything but a disaster for Obama).


63 posted on 10/04/2012 2:53:59 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: GeronL

4 years in a cocoon? More like 51 years, he’s been coddled all his life.


64 posted on 10/04/2012 3:02:33 AM PDT by Tony in Hawaii (Evacuate? In our moment of triumph?)
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To: American Constitutionalist

Something similar to that was my thought. Where did they find these people!? It is truly an amazing thing.


65 posted on 10/04/2012 3:19:51 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: over3Owithabrain

Amen. There is an argument to be made that following politics is a fools errand. You can tune in 2 days befeore the election, look at what has transpired and make still make a reasonably well-informed choice.

Just because part of the population doesn’t spend their free time following the daily soap-opera of politics doesn’t make them dumb.


66 posted on 10/04/2012 3:29:43 AM PDT by RKBA Democrat
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To: rwfromkansas

Yes!! My favorite line of the night also! Was just saWEET!!


67 posted on 10/04/2012 4:10:10 AM PDT by LibsRJerks
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To: NoobRep

Best line of the night was when Mitt said if it is not worth borrowing money from China for it we cut it.

Now if only congress will allow that to happen.


68 posted on 10/04/2012 4:21:31 AM PDT by pas
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To: toddausauras

Their bag of tricks is empty. A tactic once understood is no longer a tactic.

But, let’s not cheer until Nov. 7. If Obama loses they’ll blame the voting machines, racism, and the “wicked, outdated, elitist” Electoral College. We better be ready.

Then the hard work of governing begins: hard budget austerity, sparking the economy, appointing two SCJ (one Jewish seat in the mold of a Dennis Praeger Jew and the other to a second Clarence Thomas), ending the government school monopoly and exposing Obamacare and the entire health care system to competition through Federalism and the proper use of the Commerce Clause (to engender competition and stop states from protectionism).

Then we can rest.


69 posted on 10/04/2012 4:22:12 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: kearnyirish2

Chris Christie was 100% right!!! GAME CHANGER!!! It’s now a Different election!!


70 posted on 10/04/2012 4:29:04 AM PDT by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Ann Archy
Chris Christie was 100% right!!! GAME CHANGER!!! It’s now a Different election!!

I was thinking of that earlier - Christie looks like a fortune-teller this morning, doesn't he? I'm still in shock from last night. It was a joy to behold!

71 posted on 10/04/2012 4:31:54 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: MNJohnnie
t is really really funny watching the incompetence of the Obama campaign surrogates on display on the post Debate spin. They were so arrogantly certain of their man that they are out there mindlessly repeating the talking points they were given before the debate. It is painfully embarrassing to watch them fumble about trying to spin this disaster.


Obama’s secret to success is that he has learned how to be an empty slate onto which his supporters project what they want him to be based on their own personal hopes and ambitions.

Last night those supporters saw their hopes and ambitions get crushed as Romney revealed to America Obama as he really is instead of what his supporters want him to be.

72 posted on 10/04/2012 5:07:55 AM PDT by rdcbn
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To: NoobRep





Crowning touch:

Mitt*s grandaughter in the red dress

She hugged Grampa and he lifted her up high

...Fade to Barack and his sour brood






73 posted on 10/04/2012 5:31:42 AM PDT by devolve (----- ------- ------------c.1000_and_c.1620-------- ----------------------------)
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To: kearnyirish2
"I don’t think Chrissy Matthews got a tingle tonight; if anything he’s feeling his ulcers flame up."

I would bet 2-1 that Matthews revises/spins his initial comments. Watch.

74 posted on 10/04/2012 6:52:46 AM PDT by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever)
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To: sf4dubya

It wasn’t necessarily his job, but giving some nod to saying it would help to have a Republican majority in Congress would be better than only saying he’ll do bipartisanship. At least say I’d like to have Republicans there to help pass what Democrats have blocked, but can be bipartisan if necessary. Ironically, Obama helped Republicans in congressional races more by reminding everyone that Democrats will try to block Romney from overturning the unpopular Obamacare.


75 posted on 10/04/2012 6:56:30 AM PDT by JediJones (ROMNEY/RYAN: TURNAROUND ARTISTS ***** OBAMA/BIDEN: BULL $HIT ARTISTS)
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To: glock rocks
"... he’s the man behind the curtain..."

Actually, I would call him the guy out front who guards the rope for those truly behind the curtain - Soros, and other New World Order socialists. Remember, he was groomed by such socialist ideologs.

76 posted on 10/04/2012 6:58:25 AM PDT by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever)
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To: A Navy Vet

I actually watched MSNBC for the first time in years after the debate. I honestly was shocked by how sophomoric they really are. They were all literally whining with high pitched voices. Whey Rudy G came on the one particularly effeminate guy (Hayes I think) acted like a petulant child trying to get Rudy to say something incriminating. Rudy swatted him down over and over and the pansy just put his head down and Rudy said “wanna try again”.


77 posted on 10/04/2012 8:55:25 AM PDT by over3Owithabrain
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To: JediJones

Again, that’s our job, not his.

Romney’s message was pretty clear.


78 posted on 10/04/2012 8:59:03 AM PDT by sf4dubya (I rebelled against my parents by becoming a conservative. REJECT THEN STOP SOCIALISM THIS NOV!)
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To: kearnyirish2
Obama didn’t look good at all (though he spoke more clearly than I thought he would without his Speak & Spell - at least early on).

Watching it again, you are right that Obama did start off ok. He was into his usual smooth jive but once he realized what Romney was bringing he shriveled. It was physically noticeable if you watch again. Obama's whole demeanor and body language changed. He winced several times and starting looking down and around, clearly signaling he wanted out. He often stared at Lehrer just begging him to shut Romney down or move on, even outright asking him once to do so. His smiles and laughs were nervous ones. One big thing I noticed was when there was a loud banging noise offstage while Romney was speaking. Both guys reacted to it and looked around, but Romney just quickly glanced and turned right back at Obama and continued his speech, unfazed. Obama grinned, looked around and clearly wanted to make it a distraction and lighten the mood. Once he saw Romney coming right back at him his smile faded and his head went back down. Another escape attempt thwarted.

It was fascinating to see Obama totally exposed and dismantled. Romney was absolutely incredible - it was without a doubt the greatest debate performance and most one sided victory I've ever seen.
79 posted on 10/04/2012 9:04:54 AM PDT by over3Owithabrain
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To: sf4dubya
Again, that’s our job, not his.

He can't do his job as president without enough Republicans in the Senate to overturn Obamacare and pass his other policies. They're a team and he's the leader. I don't think he had enough political capital going into last night to spend a lot of time talking up other Republicans. But he needs to do more of that now.

80 posted on 10/04/2012 10:13:04 AM PDT by JediJones (ROMNEY/RYAN: TURNAROUND ARTISTS ***** OBAMA/BIDEN: BULL $HIT ARTISTS)
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To: JediJones

You keep arguing with me that it isn’t the job of conservatives to nominate and elect conservative Senators. It is a little tedious.


81 posted on 10/04/2012 11:20:10 AM PDT by sf4dubya (I rebelled against my parents by becoming a conservative. REJECT THEN STOP SOCIALISM THIS NOV!)
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To: sf4dubya

That’s not what I’m arguing at all. I’m arguing that it’s part of Romney’s job to help us get those Republicans elected. He shouldn’t stay on the sidelines of the congressional races.

If it’s tedious, you don’t have to reply. You started replying to me, and I simply replied back to each one of your replies.


82 posted on 10/04/2012 11:38:43 AM PDT by JediJones (ROMNEY/RYAN: TURNAROUND ARTISTS ***** OBAMA/BIDEN: BULL $HIT ARTISTS)
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To: JediJones

It sounds like you haven’t been at a Romney/Ryan rally, or stepped foot in a local GOP campaign office.

It is YOUR job to elect conservatives to the House and Senate, not Romney’s. You want to further the conservative cause? Then YOU go out there and campaign for conservatives for Romney to work with — otherwise he will work with Democrats.

He said this very specifically last night.


83 posted on 10/04/2012 11:49:47 AM PDT by sf4dubya (I rebelled against my parents by becoming a conservative. REJECT THEN STOP SOCIALISM THIS NOV!)
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To: SteveAustin

Where is Baghdad Bob when we need him?


84 posted on 10/04/2012 12:59:41 PM PDT by arrogantsob (The Disaster MUST Go. Sarah herself supports Romney.)
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To: American Constitutionalist

She is the greatest argument against The Disaster that I have ever seen.

Play that screeching harpy a couple of times a day in an ad and it will be a landslide for sure.


85 posted on 10/04/2012 1:03:23 PM PDT by arrogantsob (The Disaster MUST Go. Sarah herself supports Romney.)
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To: American Constitutionalist
Anyone who has not decided yet must be living on another planet in the last 4 years.

Guess again!

Most of the Undecideds (just ask them) are the "intellectual, deep thinkers" in our midst who—unlike the rest of us common, lazy Neanderthals—take their votes very seriously, refusing to decide until after painstakingly gathering and weighing ALL the facts, rather than solely on the basis of "R" vs. "D."

The others have been busy playing Angry Birds, surfing the Web for porn and/or watching "reality" shows and sitcoms because, as everyone should know by now, "All politicians are pretty much the same."

86 posted on 10/04/2012 1:08:25 PM PDT by newgeezer (It is [the people's] right and duty to be at all times armed. --Thomas Jefferson)
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To: BillyBoy

Bobby Rush can barely string a coherent thought together so you can only imagine how bad The Disaster really is.

The Disaster makes the Wizard of Oz look legitimate and all powerful. A Fraud from beginning to end.


87 posted on 10/04/2012 1:09:37 PM PDT by arrogantsob (The Disaster MUST Go. Sarah herself supports Romney.)
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To: NoobRep

If you are still undecided you don’t deserve a vote.


88 posted on 10/04/2012 1:23:39 PM PDT by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: Ann Archy

Rush made a great point yesterday afternoon that last night was going to be the first time many people would see Romney where it wasn’t part of an Obama ad; so true, and he did a good job.


89 posted on 10/04/2012 2:05:03 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: A Navy Vet

Matthews’ initial comments when Obama was elected ended any pretense of impartiality (or normalcy); it was the most condescending tribute to a token black I’ve ever heard, and basically relegated Matthews to a creepy sideshow.


90 posted on 10/04/2012 2:09:30 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: over3Owithabrain

Romney did great, and it was compounded by Obama’s miserable performance. While “they” are attributing it to such silliness as altitude (really), the fact is that this is the unscripted Obama without a white person writing a speech and putting it on a screen for him (at this point I wonder if he was even lip-synching his Speak & Spell speeches, a la Milli Vanilli). He is an incompetent token, who needed the Speak & Spell to address grammar school students (WTH is that?), and he has been given a condescending pass by the liberal whites who hid beind him to advance their own agendas (see “gay marriage”).

America deserved a better person as the first black president; I personally supported Alan Keyes, and hope he stays active. Instead we got a close-up view of all that is wrong with affirmative action.


91 posted on 10/04/2012 2:15:03 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Lmo56

Romney hammered Obama at every turn. He ttook him to the woodshed on those 90 billion he gave to the “green” companies...choosing the “losers” and rewarding his contributors. He did it to the point that Obama asked Lehrer to go to the next topic and change the subject...but Romney came back to it again and again.

Pointing out to Obama that he could have funded 50 years of the oil “welfare” with what he did in a couple of years with a failing green energy policy.

That he could have hired two million new teachers with that money when Obama indicated he had a plan to hire 100,000.

In addition, Romney took something that most of us felt would be a severe weakness for him...that is, Obama discussing ObamaCare and linking it to RomneyCare, and he cleaneed the president’s plate on that too, turning it into a strength for himself through the bi=partisanship arguement, and the states’ rights arguement.

I believe Romney succeeded in changing the whole nature of the debate and the campagn last night...and it desperately needed to be done.


92 posted on 10/04/2012 2:58:54 PM PDT by Jeff Head ( Freedom is not free, never has been, never will be (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Jeff Head

>> “I believe Romney succeeded in changing the whole nature of the debate and the campagn last night...and it desperately needed to be done.” <<

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Amen!

Until last night, I was going to grudgingly cast my vote for a ‘hopeless RINO,’ but now I will be able to muster considerable enthusiasm to vote for our next president.


93 posted on 10/04/2012 3:06:29 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: arrogantsob

I think that Baghdad Bob showed up today in the form of Obama in his appearances.

The guy spent the day telling everyone that Romney is a liar and doing it in a very snarkish and immature way. No reality check or acknowledgement of the beat down he took last night.


94 posted on 10/04/2012 3:50:46 PM PDT by SteveAustin
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To: A Navy Vet

Good point. He’s actually the supreme useful idiot, eh?


95 posted on 10/04/2012 5:44:27 PM PDT by glock rocks (Hey... shut the damn barn! Were you raised in a... um, wait...)
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To: newgeezer
To some degree that is true, but, with a obvious choice between the two, it's no brainer.
I guess the lines between up and down, light and darkness, right and wrong, left and right have been blurred so much that it takes much brain power to decide.

Going through a red light or stop sign, need to gather all the facts, take a poll, get a sense from the populace, take scientific data and balance all the facts and make a choice whether it's a good idea to proceed or not.
96 posted on 10/04/2012 6:38:55 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: SteveAustin

He is claiming to having been unfairly forced to face Romney’s doppelganger.


97 posted on 10/04/2012 7:10:56 PM PDT by arrogantsob (The Disaster MUST Go. Sarah herself supports Romney.)
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To: American Constitutionalist
Anyone who has not decided yet must be living on another planet in the last 4 years.

You're being way too kind. I say they've been suffering oxygen deprivation for having their heads up their asses.

98 posted on 10/04/2012 7:14:09 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: sf4dubya
It is YOUR job to elect conservatives to the House and Senate, not Romney’s. You want to further the conservative cause? Then YOU go out there and campaign for conservatives for Romney to work with — otherwise he will work with Democrats.

I see you're still working hard on keeping nitwits in line and informed. Just stopped in to say hello to you. ;-)

99 posted on 10/06/2012 6:41:33 PM PDT by arasina (Communism is EVIL. So there.)
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To: kearnyirish2

Right on-good point!


100 posted on 10/07/2012 3:53:33 PM PDT by dsutah
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