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Warnings That A Massive Stock Market Crash Is Imminent
TEC ^ | 10-4-2012 | Michael Snyder

Posted on 10/04/2012 7:22:26 AM PDT by blam

Warnings That A Massive Stock Market Crash Is Imminent

Michael Snyder
October 4, 2012

In the financial world, the month of October is synonymous with stock market crashes. So will a massive stock market crash happen this year? You never know. The truth is that our financial system is even more vulnerable than it was back in 2008, and financial experts such as Doug Short, Peter Schiff, Robert Wiedemer and Harry Dent are all warning that the next crash is rapidly approaching. We are living in the greatest debt bubble in the history of the world and Wall Street has been transformed into a giant casino that is based on a massive web of debt, risk and leverage. When that web breaks we are going to see a stock market crash that is going to make 2008 look like a Sunday picnic.
Yes, the Federal Reserve has tried to prevent any problems from erupting in the financial markets by initiating another round of quantitative easing, but 40 billion dollars a month will not be nearly enough to stop the massive collapse that is coming. This will be explained in detail toward the end of the article. Hopefully we will get through October (and the rest of this year) without seeing a stock market collapse, but without a doubt one is coming at some point. Those on the wrong end of the coming crash are going to be absolutely wiped out.

A lot of people focus on the month of October because of the history of stock market crashes in this month. This history was detailed in a recent USA Today article....

When it comes to wealth suddenly disappearing, October can be diabolically frightful. The stock market crash of 1929 that led to the Great Depression occurred in October. So did the 22.6% plunge suffered by the Dow Jones industrial average in 1987 on "Black Monday."

The scariest 19-day span during the 2008 financial crisis also went down in October, when the Dow plunged 2,675 points after investors fearing a financial collapse went on a panic-driven stock-selling spree that resulted in five of the 10 biggest daily point drops in the iconic Dow's 123-year history. So what will we see this year?

Only time will tell.

If a stock market crash does not happen this month or by the end of this year, that does not mean that the experts that are predicting a stock market crash are wrong.

It just means that they were early.

As I have said so many times, there are thousands upon thousands of moving parts in the global financial system. So that makes it nearly impossible to predict the timing of events with perfect precision. Financial conditions are constantly shifting and changing.

But without a doubt another major financial collapse similar to what happened back in 2008 (or even worse) is on the way. Let's take a look at some of the financial experts that are predicting really bad things for our financial markets in the months ahead....

Doug Short

According to Doug Short, the vice president of research at Advisor Perspectives, the stock market is somewhere between 33% and 51% overvalued at this point. In a recent article he offered the following evidence to support his position....

● The Crestmont Research P/E Ratio (more)

● The cyclical P/E ratio using the trailing 10-year earnings as the divisor (more)

● The Q Ratio, which is the total price of the market divided by its replacement cost (more)

● The relationship of the S&P Composite price to a regression trendline (more) Peter Schiff

Peter Schiff, the CEO of Euro Pacific Capital, has been one of the leading voices in the financial community warning people about the crisis that is coming.

During a recent interview with Fox Business, Schiff stated that the massive financial collapse that we witnessed back in 2008 "wasn't the real crash" and he boldly declared that the "real crash is coming".

So is Schiff right?

We shall see.

Robert Wiedemer

Economist Robert Wiedemer warned people what was coming before the crash of 2008, and now he is warning that what is coming next is going to be even worse....

"The data is clear, 50% unemployment, a 90% stock market drop, and 100% annual inflation . . . starting in 2012." Harry Dent

Financial author Harry Dent believes that the stock market could fall by as much as 60 percent in the coming months. He is convinced that stocks are hugely overvalued right now....

"We have the greatest debt bubble in history. We will see a worldwide downturn. And when you are in this type of recessionary environment stocks should be trading at five to seven times earnings." So are these guys right?

We shall see.

But I do find it interesting that some of the biggest names in the financial world are currently making moves as if they also believe that a massive financial crisis is coming.

For example, as I have written about previously, George Soros has dumped all of his holdings in banking giants JP Morgan, Citigroup and Goldman Sachs.

Infamous billionaire hedge fund manager John Paulson, the man who made somewhere around 20 billion dollars betting against the U.S. housing market during the last financial crisis, is making massive bets against the euro right now.

So where are these financial titans putting their money?

According to the Telegraph, both of these men are pouring enormous amounts of money into gold....

There was also news last week in an SEC filing that both George Soros and John Paulson had increased their investment in SPDR Gold Trust, the world’s largest publicly traded physical gold exchange traded fund (ETF).

Mr Soros upped his stake in the ETF to 884,400 shares from 319,550 and Mr Paulson bought 4.53m shares, bringing his stake to 21.3m.

At the current price of about $156 a share, these are new investments of about $88m of Mr Soros’ cash and more than $700m from Mr Paulson’s funds. These are significant positions. So why would they do this?

Why would they pour millions upon millions of dollars into gold?

Well, it would make perfect sense to put so much money into gold if a massive financial crisis was coming.

So is the next financial crisis imminent?

We will see.

Most "financial analysts" that appear in the mainstream media would laugh at the notion that a stock market crash is imminent.

Most of them would insist that everything is going to be perfectly fine for the foreseeable future.

In fact, most of them are convinced that quantitative easing is going to cause stocks to go even higher.

After all, isn't quantitative easing supposed to be good for stocks?

Didn't I write an article just last month that detailed how quantitative easing drives up stock prices?

Yes I did.

So how can I be writing now about the possibility of a stock market crash?

Aren't I contradicting myself?

Not at all.

Let me explain.

The first two rounds of quantitative easing did indeed drive up stock prices. The same thing will happen under QE3, unless the effects of QE3 are overwhelmed by a major crisis.

For example, if we were to see a total collapse of the derivatives market it would render QE3 totally meaningless.

Estimates of the notional value of the worldwide derivatives market range from 600 trillion dollars all the way up to 1.5 quadrillion dollars. Nobody knows for sure how large the market for derivatives is, but everyone agrees that it is absolutely massive.

When we are talking about amounts that large, the $40 billion being pumped into the financial system each month by the Federal Reserve during QE3 would essentially be the equivalent of spitting into Niagara Falls. It would make no difference at all.

Most Americans do not understand what "derivatives" are, so they kind of tune out when people start talking about them.

But they are very important to understand.

Essentially, derivatives are "side bets". When you buy a derivative, you are not investing in anything. You are just gambling that something will or will not happen.

I explained this more completely in a previous article entitled "The Coming Derivatives Crisis That Could Destroy The Entire Global Financial System"....

A derivative has no underlying value of its own. A derivative is essentially a side bet. Usually these side bets are highly leveraged.

At this point, making side bets has totally gotten out of control in the financial world. Side bets are being made on just about anything you can possibly imagine, and the major Wall Street banks are making a ton of money from it. This system is almost entirely unregulated and it is totally dominated by the big international banks.

Over the past couple of decades, the derivatives market has multiplied in size. Everything is going to be fine as long as the system stays in balance. But once it gets out of balance we could witness a string of financial crashes that no government on earth will be able to fix. Five very large U.S. banks (including Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan and Bank of America) have combined exposure to derivatives in excess of 250 trillion dollars.

Keep in mind that U.S. GDP for 2011 was only about 15 trillion dollars.

So we are talking about an amount of money that is almost inconceivable.

That is why I cannot talk about derivatives enough. In fact, I apologize to my readers for not writing about them more.

If you want to understand the coming financial collapse, one of the keys is to understand derivatives. Our entire financial system has been transformed into a giant casino, and at some point all of this gambling is going to cause a horrible crash.

Do you remember the billions of dollars that JP Morgan announced that they lost a while back? Well, that was caused by derivatives trades gone bad. In fact, they are still not totally out of those trades and they are going to end up losing a whole lot more money than they originally anticipated.

Sadly, that was just the tip of the iceberg. Much, much worse is coming. When you hear of a major "derivatives crisis" in the news, you better run for cover because it is likely that the entire house of cards is about to start falling.

And don't get too caught up in the exact timing of predictions.

If a stock market crash does not happen this month, don't think that the storm has passed.

A major financial crisis is coming. It might not happen this week, this month or even this year, but without a doubt it is approaching.

And when it arrives it is going to be immensely painful and it is going to change all of our lives.

I hope you are ready for that.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: crash; economy; markets; stocks

1 posted on 10/04/2012 7:22:31 AM PDT by blam
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To: blam

I hope it happens before the election that is all.

Those damned gamblers on Wall Street have been part of the problem.


2 posted on 10/04/2012 7:28:26 AM PDT by ZULU (See video: http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2012/09/the-first-siege-of-vienna.html)
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To: blam

The housing bubble has simply morphed into the stocks/bonds asset bubble. And that will not last much longer before bursting, as all bubbles do.

Let us pray that Obama is no longer president when it happens, because it is glaringly obvious that he is a moron when dealing with the economy.


3 posted on 10/04/2012 7:30:31 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: ZULU

I don’t think it will happen until we run the final QE.x gamble myself.


4 posted on 10/04/2012 7:31:15 AM PDT by DonaldC (A nation cannot stand in the absence of religious principle.)
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To: ZULU

Nope.

Not at all. Romney will win the election and America is entering a new growth era.


5 posted on 10/04/2012 7:32:18 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (America doesn't need any new laws. America needs freedom!)
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To: blam

Self Fulfilling prophecy? If we talk about it enough, we will create enough panic, it will happen!


6 posted on 10/04/2012 7:32:18 AM PDT by vet7279
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To: blam
So will a massive stock market crash happen this year? You never know.

Oh, brother.

7 posted on 10/04/2012 7:33:08 AM PDT by Obadiah (The corrupt MSM is the enemy of the American people.)
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To: blam

This is what . . . the 15th time this prediction has been made in the last three years? I’m surprised they have any money left to go short with given how the market has performed the last three years . . .


8 posted on 10/04/2012 7:33:42 AM PDT by LRoggy (Peter's Son's Business)
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To: blam

“If a stock market crash does not happen this month or by the end of this year, that does not mean that the experts that are predicting a stock market crash are wrong.

“It just means that they were early.

Do we apply the same rule to those who predict the end of the world? After all, it’s bound to end sooner or later.


9 posted on 10/04/2012 7:37:30 AM PDT by proxy_user
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To: blam

btt


10 posted on 10/04/2012 7:38:33 AM PDT by KSCITYBOY
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To: blam
I've heard this stupid stuff for 10 years and NOTHING HAS HAPPENED. It's not going to crash until the powers that be are ready for it to crash.
11 posted on 10/04/2012 7:41:10 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

The market will collapse when it always does, when interest rates eventually start rising.


12 posted on 10/04/2012 7:53:54 AM PDT by ScottfromNJ
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To: blam

Keep predicting a stock market crash, and sooner or later you’ll be right.

(It works in reverse, too.)


13 posted on 10/04/2012 8:15:50 AM PDT by Arm_Bears (Re-distribute my work ethic, not my wealth.)
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To: blam

The way things are going in Europe it could happen.It never hurts to stock up.


14 posted on 10/04/2012 8:45:59 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: blam

The way things are going in Europe it could happen.It never hurts to stock up.


15 posted on 10/04/2012 8:46:50 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

I believe that when Romney wins on November 6, we will immediately begin to see new signs of life in the economy. Business owners will breathe a sigh of relief and perhaps begin putting into place plans for expansions and hiring. I think the market will immediately show improvements. That’s just how bad the effect of Obama, the man, has been on the whole country. In fact, I think we might even see the oceans rise and the planet heal once he’s out the door.


16 posted on 10/04/2012 8:52:18 AM PDT by ChocChipCookie
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To: blam
Five very large U.S. banks (including Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan and Bank of America) have combined exposure to derivatives in excess of 250 trillion dollars.

Wow! That's a quarter of a bajillion!.

17 posted on 10/04/2012 8:57:11 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard

$oro$ will probably pull some shenanigans either directly before or after the election to hurt Romney. Is there any doubt?


18 posted on 10/04/2012 9:13:57 AM PDT by bicyclerepair ( REPLACE D-W-S ! http://www.karenforcongress.com)
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To: blam; SwinneySwitch; Cincinatus' Wife; nhwingut; Texas Fossil; pabianice; Travis McGee; ...

Screw all the Wall Street Banksters. These corrupt bastards own our government so throw them all out . . . They are all crooks


19 posted on 10/04/2012 9:22:32 AM PDT by ex-Texan (The Time to "Wake Up" is Over !)
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To: blam

Isn’t a massive stock market crash ALWAYS imminent?


20 posted on 10/04/2012 9:25:31 AM PDT by Michigander222
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To: ex-Texan

USA

UK

Spain.....in the tank.


21 posted on 10/04/2012 9:35:17 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: Michigander222

>> “Isn’t a massive stock market crash ALWAYS imminent?” <<

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In a fiat world, for sure.

Gold just punched through a huge resistance level this morning.


22 posted on 10/04/2012 9:35:42 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: stephenjohnbanker; M. Espinola

These bastards deserve to go down in flames . . . LOL !

23 posted on 10/04/2012 10:02:08 AM PDT by ex-Texan (The Time to "Wake Up" is Over !)
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To: ex-Texan

Bankers.....criminals in $4000.00 suits since 1984 : )


24 posted on 10/04/2012 10:08:26 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: ZULU
“Those damned gamblers on Wall Street have been part of the problem.”

People have bitched and moaned about the “gamblers on Wall Street” for 150 years.

You might not like all aspects of a free market economy; but there is not a better system to replace it.

But Obama is trying.

He bragged again last night about how he cut all the banks out of the student loan business and now students can borrow directly from the government.

Government Motors is another example.

A command and control, government led economy is not where we want to go.

25 posted on 10/04/2012 10:12:38 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Encourage all of your Democrat friends to get out and vote on November 7th, the stakes are high.)
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To: txrefugee
"The housing bubble has simply morphed into the stocks/bonds asset bubble. And that will not last much longer before bursting, as all bubbles do."

The Last Housing Crash Is Not Even Over But Bernanke Is Already Setting The Stage For The Next One

26 posted on 10/04/2012 10:23:16 AM PDT by blam
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To: HereInTheHeartland
A command and control, government led economy is not where we want to go.

But it is where Obama wants to go. He can finish off America if he can just win re-election. He's so close. The Muslims are so close they can feel it. Takeovers in Egypt by the Muzzies, with Libya, Iraq and Syria to follow.

The nuts in Iran and Saudi Arabia can see the end of the west too. Obama will not leave peacefully.

27 posted on 10/05/2012 10:46:08 AM PDT by politicianslie (Obama: Our first Muslim PRESIDENT,destroying America $1 Trillion at a time! And America sleeps)
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