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SAN FRANCISCO: Nudists uncover the city's outrage
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | 10/4/12 | C.W. Nevius

Posted on 10/04/2012 9:30:36 AM PDT by SmithL

Supervisor Scott Wiener never wanted to propose a ban on public nudity. But support for his ordinance, which was introduced Tuesday, has become so widespread that even those who were reluctant to complain publicly are speaking up.

And that means everybody.

"I went to a brunch for the Folsom Street Fair," Wiener said. "And I was a little nervous. This was a full-leather crowd. Were they going to yell at me? But I had these big old leather daddies coming up to me and saying, 'Please do something about this.' "

...George Davis, a former nude candidate for mayor, sees Wiener's proposed ban as "an attack on freedom," and has convinced himself that the nude brigade is leading a movement that could go city-wide.

Davis says he's gone full Monty all over town, from Fisherman's Wharf to North Beach.

"I walk all over the place nude," he said. "The most common reaction is oblivious."

..."Obviously, this is something no other city would be having a conversation about," says James A. Martin, who has written a short comic play about the issue, called "The Buck Naked Church of Truth."

But don't sell the issue short. Wiener says he's expecting a fight as the legislation goes forward, including lots of sound and fury at public comment when the final vote comes up. Nude supporters will be hoping to tap into the city's view of itself as a haven for the eccentric and unconventional - the worry that supporting any restriction invalidates your San Francisco credentials.

"It's like you're a bad liberal," said Wiener. "You feel guilty about it."

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; US: California
KEYWORDS: sanfranciscovalues; sodombythebay; weiner
San Francisco Values
1 posted on 10/04/2012 9:30:42 AM PDT by SmithL
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To: SmithL
Scott Wiener ... public nudity.
Can't make this stuff up.
2 posted on 10/04/2012 9:32:56 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: SmithL

Apparenty not, from this article.


3 posted on 10/04/2012 9:33:45 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: SmithL

The bar is now so low, we’ll need James Cameron to find it.


4 posted on 10/04/2012 9:34:51 AM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us one chance in three. More tea anyone?)
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To: SmithL

Yes, every so often they realize that they’ve gone a little further than they meant to go...like now, when they had to pass a law that the owners of these naked butts had to carry towels to put on chairs in public places! And think of eating at your favorite cafe when one of these naked butts walks in. Eeeewwww...


5 posted on 10/04/2012 9:35:18 AM PDT by livius
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To: SmithL

No shirt, no shoes, no pants . . . no problem!


6 posted on 10/04/2012 9:46:27 AM PDT by FoxInSocks ("Hope is not a course of action." -- M. O'Neal, USMC)
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To: SmithL

SF wants to ban naked people walking around in public? What about all that tolerance talk we always from there. Is this some kind of hate and phobia taking hold?


7 posted on 10/04/2012 9:47:59 AM PDT by BRK
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To: SmithL

SF wants to ban naked people walking around in public? What about all that tolerance talk we always from there. Is this some kind of hate and phobia taking hold?


8 posted on 10/04/2012 9:48:04 AM PDT by BRK
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To: SmithL

SF wants to ban naked people walking around in public? What about all that tolerance talk we always from there. Is this some kind of hate and phobia taking hold?


9 posted on 10/04/2012 9:48:19 AM PDT by BRK
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To: SmithL

So, urinating in public is enough to put you on the sex offender database, but walking around buck naked is supposed to be ok?


10 posted on 10/04/2012 9:48:36 AM PDT by absolootezer0 (2x divorced tattooed pierced harley hatin meghan mccain luvin' REAL beer drinkin' smoker ..what?)
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To: SmithL

SF wants to ban naked people walking around in public? What about all that tolerance talk we always from there. Is this some kind of hate and phobia taking hold?


11 posted on 10/04/2012 9:48:40 AM PDT by BRK
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To: SmithL

Any libertarians here going to weigh in to defend this “victimless crime?”


12 posted on 10/04/2012 9:50:30 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: SmithL

I lived in SF and the people who do this are NEVER hot —they’re old and fat and in most cases they’re at least a little mentally ill.

JUST GROSS...!


13 posted on 10/04/2012 9:51:59 AM PDT by gaijin
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To: SmithL

Only in San FranSICKO..


14 posted on 10/04/2012 9:54:36 AM PDT by NeverForgetBataan (I am become Barry... destroyer of wealth)
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To: SmithL

Only in San FranSICKO..


15 posted on 10/04/2012 9:54:50 AM PDT by NeverForgetBataan (I am become Barry... destroyer of wealth)
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To: oh8eleven

Yep....
Wiener says cover your wiener.......

It was my understanding this wasn’t a problem in San Fran.....

Ususaly their wieners are stuck in a bun.....


16 posted on 10/04/2012 10:00:33 AM PDT by nevergore ("It could be that the purpose of my life is simply to serve as a warning to others.")
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To: fwdude
Any libertarians here going to weigh in to defend this “victimless crime?”

Any libertarians who support public nudity haven't thought it through. You have no more right to send light from your naked body into my eyeball than you do to throw your garbage into my yard.

17 posted on 10/04/2012 10:05:56 AM PDT by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: livius
And think of eating at your favorite cafe when one of these naked butts walks in. Eeeewwww

Yeah the last thing you want when you're sinking your teeth into a bean burrito is to have a hairy azz crack hanging in your face :^(

18 posted on 10/04/2012 10:12:39 AM PDT by Tuanedge (Warriors victorious in a hundred battles, flee when a tiger enters their tent.)
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To: JustSayNoToNannies

The libertarians response would be to “just look away” if you don’t like it. Kind of like they say about publicly viewable pornography.


20 posted on 10/04/2012 10:21:43 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: fwdude

The proper libertarian response would be, “You own your property - go be naked on your property. You don’t own the public square, and the majority of those who do, have the right to set standards for its use. Put some pants on or leave.”


21 posted on 10/04/2012 10:28:38 AM PDT by dead (It ain't over until the phone lady sings.)
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To: fwdude
Any libertarians here going to weigh in to defend this “victimless crime?”

Do you want them to?

22 posted on 10/04/2012 10:30:47 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic

I just want them to be consistently honest, so that their warped philosophy is exposed.


23 posted on 10/04/2012 11:42:19 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: SmithL

How is this not a public health issue???


24 posted on 10/04/2012 11:58:22 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: SmithL
"I walk all over the place nude," he said. "The most common reaction is oblivious."

Probably because anybody complaining will be arrested by the SF PC police.

Used to be a great city...too bad.

25 posted on 10/04/2012 12:51:10 PM PDT by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: BRK
"It's like you're a bad liberal," said Wiener. "You feel guilty about it."
Yeah, a bad liberal!
26 posted on 10/04/2012 1:48:35 PM PDT by SmithL
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To: fwdude
I just want them to be consistently honest, so that their warped philosophy is exposed.

Would it be okay if they lie, but still look warped?

27 posted on 10/04/2012 3:20:08 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: fwdude
I just want them to be consistently honest, so that their warped philosophy is exposed.

Would it be okay if they lie, but still look warped?

28 posted on 10/04/2012 3:20:24 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: gaijin

People ought to have a choice what their eyes gaze at: eapecially at dinner time, lunch time, breakfast. Does anyone think, anymore, that this is a problem for children?


29 posted on 10/04/2012 3:27:12 PM PDT by upcountryhorseman (An old fashioned conservative)
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