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Obama Collapse in Illinois: Tied in District He Won by 23 Points in 08
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Posted on 10/04/2012 12:08:08 PM PDT by Perdogg

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To: Perdogg

Don’t believe the polls. Even the so called good ones can be lies.


51 posted on 10/04/2012 4:00:53 PM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: Perdogg

The “swing” is everything.IIRC there have only been two Presidents in history who’ve been reelected with *less* support than when first elected.


52 posted on 10/04/2012 4:02:39 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Ambassador Stevens Is Dead And The Chevy Volt Is Alive)
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To: lesko
...HOLY COW!

Considering this is a thread about Chicago, are you channeling Harry Carey, by chance?

53 posted on 10/04/2012 4:24:19 PM PDT by The Citizen Soldier (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everyone stands around reloading.)
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To: Perdogg

Forget the media spin about Obama’s debate implosion. Donor’s will dry up now that the emperiors clothes are off.

Romney/Ryan 2012


54 posted on 10/04/2012 4:41:28 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: SeekAndFind; LS; Perdogg; napscoordinator; God luvs America; nutmeg; SoFloFreeper; Ravi; ...

Poll ping.


55 posted on 10/04/2012 6:07:01 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (The pundits have forgotten the 2010 elections.)
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To: sgtyork

Oh, somebody noticed?

Yes, there is a 20% gender voting gap in Louisiana in minority districts.

“Holy cow. 65 percent women? Its madness! Unless all the minority men are ineligible to vote.”


56 posted on 10/04/2012 6:58:46 PM PDT by Pikachu_Dad (Impeach Sen Quinn)
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To: Perdogg

I am from Illinois. While I would like to think that Illinois will go for Romney it is not going to happen. However, I think the race will go from +25 0 to about +8 to 10 for 0. About a 15 point drop.

4 years ago I saw a number of 0 signs. I have not seen any yet. Just today on the way to work I saw a number of Romney signs. New ones appearing each day. It will be much much closer here.


57 posted on 10/04/2012 7:23:28 PM PDT by CSinIL
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To: kearnyirish2

Why is zero running campaign ads here in Kalifornia? Isn’t it locked up for him too?


58 posted on 10/04/2012 7:59:26 PM PDT by CPO retired
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To: CPO retired

I’ve been saying for months that NJ is up for grabs; we’re still liberal Yankees, but things here are REALLY bad. Four years ago there were plenty of Obama stickers; now you don’t even see them on the welfare reservations.

NJ voted Governor Christie into office one year after Obama carried the state; he isn’t perfect, but he is very much an “ant-Obama”...


59 posted on 10/04/2012 8:09:44 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: ConservativeMan55

My thoughts exactly ;) Not sure how accurate this poll is, but the last 4 years have been unprecedented in my life. Never before has a POTUS continued his policies when the public was overwhelmingly against them, AND, they didn’t do what said policies were supposed to. Obama et al are going on and saying Romney is lying and a different man than he was before the debate, but the fact of the matter, Obama is the one trying to act like something he is not at his convention and at the debate. It is too little, too late. He should have changed course in Nov 2010 after the historic drubbing he rec’d. Bill Clinton did that in 1994, and went on to be considered a successful (Democrat) POTUS.


60 posted on 10/04/2012 8:42:46 PM PDT by PghBaldy (I am sick of Obama's and Hillary's apologies to muslims, especially after 11 September 2012.)
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To: Jet Jaguar; fieldmarshaldj; Impy; Clintonfatigued; randita; AuH2ORepublican

How different does this district look from 2008, since it has been re-drawn? Weren’t these GOP-held districts drawn to give the Dems an overwhelming shot at knocking off the GOP incumbents? And if so, and assuming this poll is accurate, what then does it mean for Romney chances in IL (and beyond)?


61 posted on 10/04/2012 11:59:45 PM PDT by MitchellC (President Evil: Redistribution)
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To: Perdogg

BTTT!


62 posted on 10/05/2012 12:15:03 AM PDT by neverdem ( Xin loi min oi)
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To: Perdogg

Just for the general FYI, I did a quick search on wiki, and it looks like Il-10 is a “swing” district that tends to elect moderate (or RINO, if you prefer) Republicans to Congress. That was Mark Kirk’s old House Seat, and it’s now held by Robert Dold, who has an ACU rating of 44.

Here’s the Presidential vote percentages from the last 3 elections (also courtesy of wikipedia)

2000 President Al Gore (D) 51 - 47%
2004 President John Kerry (D) 52 - 47%
2008 President Barack Obama (D) 61 - 38%

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Even though I have little doubt that Obama will carry Illinois on election day, I do see some cause for encouragement here. If his numbers are that down in a district like Il-10, chances are they are also down in similar communities in the various swing states. A political barometer reading, if you will.


63 posted on 10/05/2012 1:16:45 AM PDT by DemforBush (100% Ex-Democrat.)
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To: stevem

Obviously if Obama carries IL, it wouldn’t be a woodshed proportion election.


64 posted on 10/05/2012 2:25:02 AM PDT by scrabblehack
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To: Gay State Conservative

Wilson 1916 got fewer electoral votes (435 vs 277) but a greater proportion of the popular vote (42% vs 49%)

FDR 1940 got fewer electoral votes 523 vs 449 and a smaller proportion of the popular vote (61% down to 55%)

FDR 1944 got fewer electoral votes 449 vs. 432 and a smaller proportion of the popular vote (55% down to 53%)


65 posted on 10/05/2012 2:38:12 AM PDT by scrabblehack
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To: cookcounty

Rumsfeld’s old CD was to the west of the Porter-Kirk-Dold CD (Rummy was succeeded by Phil Crane, and the CD is now held by Joe Walsh).


66 posted on 10/05/2012 3:03:05 AM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: DemforBush

The Wikipedia article (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illinois’s_10th_congressional_district) looks like it is using the old lines.

According to our enemies at DailyKos, Obama would have won the new 10th 63-36 in 2008.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Av8O-dN2giY6dENxMmFSYmgyNGRYcFEzTVBURTdjdnc


67 posted on 10/05/2012 3:05:07 AM PDT by scrabblehack
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To: MitchellC; DemforBush; Perdogg; fieldmarshaldj; Impy; Clintonfatigued; randita; BillyBoy; ...

The IL-10, as drawn in 2001, gave President Bush 47% in 2004; as redrawn last year the Bush 2004 percentage dropped to 45%. Apart from Cao’s fluke win in LA-02 in 2008, the GOP hasn’t held a CD in which Bush got below 46% in 2004 since Leach of IA-02 and Simmons of CT-02 lost reelection in 2006. But Dold is liberal enough that he will get quite a few crossovers, and it might just be enough to win reelection in what’s looking like at least a decent GOP year.

That being said, President Bush got 44% statewide in IL in 2004, and I don’t see how Romney could possibly carry the state.


68 posted on 10/05/2012 3:14:00 AM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: stevem

The issue is down ticket. It would be nice to lose Schakowsky, et al.


69 posted on 10/05/2012 4:04:17 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: AuH2ORepublican

It would not hurt to send Ryan to Rockford for a couple of hours, who knows?


70 posted on 10/05/2012 4:10:46 AM PDT by Perdogg (vote like the constitution depends on it - it does)
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To: AuH2ORepublican; scrabblehack

I live in the new 10th District, and I’ve been canvasssing my precinct, since I’ll be paid by the Dold campaign. I’ve talked to many voters who say that they’re undecided about the presidential race and the congressional race. I’ve talked to the same number of people who said that they’ll vote for Obama and might vote for Dold.


71 posted on 10/05/2012 4:19:06 AM PDT by PhilCollins
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To: PghBaldy
Obama et al are going on and saying Romney is lying and a different man than he was before the debate, but the fact of the matter, Obama is the one trying to act like something he is not at his convention and at the debate. It is too little, too late.
All politicians do that at least a little, but Democrats depend heavily on that tactic and are able to do so primarily because they are sailing down the propaganda wind generated by journalists who promote the idea that critics (themselves, and also Democrat politicians) are more valuable to society than are the people who work to a bottom line, providing food, clothing, shelter, etc.
He should have changed course in Nov 2010 after the historic drubbing he rec’d. Bill Clinton did that in 1994, and went on to be considered a successful (Democrat) POTUS.
It is really stunning that the country has elected someone who seems so arrogant. Wasn’t Clinton bad enough!

72 posted on 10/05/2012 4:31:08 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which ¬ďliberalism" coheres is that NOTHING actually matters except PR.)
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To: 1010RD
The Democrats are so confident about Schakowsky that the last two redistricting stretched her district into formerly Republican precincts in order to neutralize these areas and render their votes useless.

Speaking of useless, I wish the public had more opportunities to hear Schakowsky speak. Apart from being a Marxist ideologue, she is a total idiot. She cannot manage to conduct a coherent conversation and can only scream and repeat slogans.

73 posted on 10/05/2012 7:42:39 AM PDT by PBRCat
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To: cotton1706

Let’s make sure they’re being mowed down just on the left.


74 posted on 10/05/2012 7:44:11 AM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com)
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To: A Navy Vet

My liberal friend is suicidal.


75 posted on 10/05/2012 7:56:31 AM PDT by sarasota
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To: library user
They are a month old! Sept. 4-10. Why don’t they have more recent figures?

Either nobody's polled Illinois since then because it's assumed to be solid blue and so of limited interest - or it's a conspiracy.

76 posted on 10/05/2012 2:29:36 PM PDT by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: Perdogg

Well, it certainly wouldn’t hurt Schilling (who had Rockford added to his CD this year), but I assume that unless and until Romney-Ryan have nailed down Wisconsin that they won’t be sending Ryan into Rockford.


77 posted on 10/05/2012 3:44:04 PM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: Perdogg

Cook County has a LOT of Jews.....hope they are WAKING UP BEFORE the shiite hits the fan.


78 posted on 10/05/2012 4:08:23 PM PDT by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Perdogg

Cook County has a LOT of Jews.....hope they are WAKING UP BEFORE the shiite hits the fan.


79 posted on 10/05/2012 4:08:23 PM PDT by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: sgtyork
Unless all the minority men are ineligible to vote.

Felons?

80 posted on 10/05/2012 7:06:32 PM PDT by Lee N. Field (Never argue eschatology with a crazy person.)
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To: arrogantsob

Now there is no doubt that this state has a severe case of the Stupids but surely it has an end?”

California is a similar basket case. The worse they do, the more Democrat they get, like a vicious cycle of stupidity.


81 posted on 10/06/2012 8:06:55 AM PDT by WOSG (REPEAL AND REPLACE OBAMA. He stole America’s promise!)
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