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Why was President Obama so bad?
The Washington Post ^ | 4 Oct 2012

Posted on 10/04/2012 12:11:48 PM PDT by mandaladon

The Barack Obama who stood on the debate stage in Denver Wednesday night was virtually unrecognizable to the person who swept to victory in 2008 or even the man who had built a narrow-but-clear edge in the 2012 race. In the wake of the debate, Democrats conceded that former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney had dominated the proceedings and quickly moved on to a deeper — and harder to answer — question: What the hell was wrong with the president?

Theories abound — up to an including that Obama, who had done debate prep in Las Vegas, struggled to adjust to Denver’s altitude. (Not kidding. That is a theory espoused by none other than former Vice President Al Gore.)

Below we take on a few of the likeliest reasons for Obama’s out-of-character performance — culled from conversations with Democratic strategists and our own observations. * He’s not used to being challenged: For all of the chatter that President Obama loves to surround himself with people willing to disagree with him, the truth of the matter is that being the leader of the free world means that what you say goes pretty much all the time. And, being challenged by staff — no matter how senior those staff might be — is not the same thing as being directly confronted by someone at your level and who wants your job.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012; 2012debates; narcissism; narcissistinchief; npd; obama; obamasnewclothes; presidentialdebate; romney
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* He’s not used to being challenged: For all of the chatter that President Obama loves to surround himself with people willing to disagree with him, the truth of the matter is that being the leader of the free world means that what you say goes pretty much all the time. ...................It's called the dictator syndrome.
1 posted on 10/04/2012 12:11:55 PM PDT by mandaladon
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To: mandaladon
"Why was President Obama so bad?"

Because he sucks? Just a guess.

2 posted on 10/04/2012 12:13:22 PM PDT by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: mandaladon

He wasn’t so bad...he just met his match. He’s been protected for so long by the media and his teleprompter that we’ve never known the intelligence of the real guy. Now we do. Weak.


3 posted on 10/04/2012 12:14:21 PM PDT by sanjuanbob
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To: mandaladon
Why was President Obama so bad? Because he is.
4 posted on 10/04/2012 12:14:45 PM PDT by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11 0bie don' t eatl my dog!)
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To: mandaladon

Because he is a liar.


5 posted on 10/04/2012 12:16:48 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: mandaladon

I agree with the article: He is not used to being challanged, and he is not that good of a debator.


6 posted on 10/04/2012 12:17:12 PM PDT by verga (Forced to remove tag line by administrator)
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To: Steely Tom

They’re all piling on the moderator and blaming him, so we can expect to see a more ‘Obama-friendly’ moderator next time. Romney better bring his A+ game


7 posted on 10/04/2012 12:17:44 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: mandaladon
IMO, it is his arrogance.

Why should he have to campaign? Why should he have to roll up his sleeves and get his hands dirty? Isn't his greatness obvious to everyone? This election should be an afterthought.

8 posted on 10/04/2012 12:17:54 PM PDT by GSWarrior
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To: mandaladon

It’s the Choom man. Smoking dope -especially as an adolescent, makes you stupid.


9 posted on 10/04/2012 12:17:58 PM PDT by oneolcop (Lead, Follow or Get the Hell Out of the Way!)
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To: mandaladon
This is who Obama really is, without the Teleprompter and a script written by others. He is not a great speaker. He is not a smart man. He is obviously illiterate on economics.

My daughter noticed he never took notes to organize his thoughts to respond to Romney. He doesn't even know how to debate.

Obama could hold his own against McCain, another bottom of the class man, when McCain was afraid to challenge him on anything for fear of being called a racist. But last night he faced a top of the class man in command of his facts. Barry was exposed for who he is.

10 posted on 10/04/2012 12:18:27 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: mandaladon

obama actually did much better than I expected without his teleprompter.

He was never reduced to the “uh, ah, uh, uh, ah, I-I-I-I-I-I uh, uh” stage!!!!

clinton must have done a good job coaching obama to prevent the massive inarticulateness that we have all seen from time to time. But obama still lost to Romney big-time, as he deserved!!!!


11 posted on 10/04/2012 12:18:53 PM PDT by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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To: mandaladon

I think there’s a good possibility that he spent weeks planning to take the debate in a certain direction, then had to toss out his playbook in the last day or two after getting his normal early look at the Sept jobs numbers (due out tomorrow morning, so we’ll see )

I think that’s what happened with his Convention speech too. He probably had a speech written based on the general consensus that that August would see 250,000 new jobs. But then had to go to a backup speech when he found out right before the speech that there were only 96,000 new jobs (and over 300,000 people gave up and stopped looking for work).


12 posted on 10/04/2012 12:18:53 PM PDT by tanknetter
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To: mandaladon

I do think the video pushed by Carlson/Drudge the night before was released not really to change voters’ minds on anything directly, but to throw Obama off his debate game. They surely coordinated with Romney’s campaign on that, knowing Romney’s plan was to get tougher on Obama in the debate than he’s been on the stump so far. The video was meant to scare Obama into trying to play the role of the “nice guy” so he didn’t confirm the impression of him being angry shown in the video. So the roles got reversed, Romney was tough and Obama was nice, which totally confounded everyone’s expectations.


13 posted on 10/04/2012 12:19:06 PM PDT by JediJones (ROMNEY/RYAN: TURNAROUND ARTISTS ***** OBAMA/BIDEN: BULL $HIT ARTISTS)
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To: Steely Tom

Exactly - their carefully constructed myth of the “genius of obama” is being shown to be a fraud.

O has never had any of his ideas challenged from the right. In Democratic debates, it’s all about out-Marxing the other candidates.

In 2008, we had a feckless and obsequious McCain whose main concern seemed to be to not appear to be mean to the Negro.

I’m not a huge fan of Romney, but I am thinking he is the first opponent O has ever faced that could articulate traditional American ideas in the face of his Marxism.


14 posted on 10/04/2012 12:19:45 PM PDT by jtal (Runnin' a World in Need with White Folks' Greed - since 1492)
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To: mandaladon

And I do think Obama was genuinely rattled by Romney’s command of the facts. It’s clear Obama was not prepared to match Romney on recitation of memorized details.


15 posted on 10/04/2012 12:20:00 PM PDT by JediJones (ROMNEY/RYAN: TURNAROUND ARTISTS ***** OBAMA/BIDEN: BULL $HIT ARTISTS)
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To: mandaladon
"Why was President Obama so bad?"

Because he is! Don't strain the brain, the answer is simple!

Now I have a question - What took the dimwits so long to see the obvious?

16 posted on 10/04/2012 12:20:17 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: ColdOne
Hmm, first I'll have to go back and read the WaCompost's apologies and excuses for GW's poor debate performances and see how they compare.

/sarc

17 posted on 10/04/2012 12:20:22 PM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1)
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To: Steely Tom

How about, he’s a product of affirmative action every step of the way and finally found out he’s in over his head? But we at the Washington comPost cannot dare say that!


18 posted on 10/04/2012 12:20:23 PM PDT by BlueStateRightist
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To: mandaladon
The problem with Obama is that he's stupid. Many of us saw that way back when he arrived at the US Senate ~ others didn't. There are even those who imagine him to be a master schemer.

What you see, what you saw last night, is all there is. He's never been better.

19 posted on 10/04/2012 12:20:26 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: mandaladon
Obama seemed to vacillate between flummoxed and annoyed that Romney was contradicting almost every assertion he tried to make. .......................I almost felt sorry for Zero...he looked like a little boy being scolded by his teacher.
20 posted on 10/04/2012 12:20:34 PM PDT by mandaladon (PalinGenesis)
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To: mandaladon

Because he’s a moron who is not used to being challenged and all those years of “getting all wee weed up” took a toll on whatever brain cells the bastard had. You could see right at the beginning that when Romney began quoting facts and statistics from memory that Hussein was taken by surprise. he couldn’t compete on an intellectual level. He doesn’t carry his TOTUS to the ice cream shop, or to the third grade classroom for nothing!


21 posted on 10/04/2012 12:21:04 PM PDT by The Sons of Liberty ("Get that evil, foreign, muslim, usurping, gay bastard out of MY White House!" FUBO!)
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To: mandaladon

Because it is the first time he actually had to seriously debate someone. The problem for the Left is the real Obama showed up last night.


22 posted on 10/04/2012 12:21:27 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: GSWarrior

Best answer so far...


23 posted on 10/04/2012 12:21:59 PM PDT by mandaladon (PalinGenesis)
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To: mandaladon
“Theories abound —up to and including that Obama, who had done debate prep in Las Vegas, struggled to adjust to Denver’s altitude. (Not kidding. That is a theory espoused by none other than former Vice President Al Gore).

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High altitude makes you stupid? LOL

Loser!

24 posted on 10/04/2012 12:22:23 PM PDT by fatnotlazy (The debate was a gunfight, and Obama brought a knife.)
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To: mandaladon

Obama just plain sucks! I also think he has some significant mental and physical problems. The guy looked like a drug user and skeleton. Hmmm!


25 posted on 10/04/2012 12:23:11 PM PDT by Batman11 (We came for the chicken sandwiches and a Sweet Tea Party broke out!)
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To: Honorary Serb

You simply missed it. He did the hmm’uh, nhhn, am, hum, muh about 5 minutes in. That was his high point.


26 posted on 10/04/2012 12:23:24 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: mandaladon
Why was he so bad?? BECAUSE HE DOESN'T WANT A SECOND TERM.

He gets a big fat pension for life....And will never work again.

27 posted on 10/04/2012 12:23:39 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Steely Tom

Bad dope...


28 posted on 10/04/2012 12:24:34 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (In the game of life, there are no betting limits)
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To: mandaladon
Theories abound

My theory is: cocaine.
Okay, maybe Xanax or some other prescription medication.

This morning Obama is upbeat and bubbling with enthusiasm.
Last night he was flat, deflated, disinterested.

29 posted on 10/04/2012 12:24:41 PM PDT by oldbrowser (An empty chair attracts a stadium full of empty chairs.)
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To: mandaladon

Obama was unprepared last night. Is anyone surprised? He was unprepared when he took the oath of office and he has remained so for four years. Oh, did I mention that he is also lazy.


30 posted on 10/04/2012 12:24:41 PM PDT by Saltmeat
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To: mandaladon
I have a slightly different take. I think in 2008 Obama actually believed the hype, he really thought he was a messianic figure that was going to save the planet, usher in a new utopia and be loved and adored by the masses. Well, not only did he fail, he failed miserably. The man I saw up on stage, looking at the floor droning on in a monotone was someone that knows he is a failure, has little self confidence and is just “going through the motions”.
31 posted on 10/04/2012 12:24:51 PM PDT by apillar
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To: mandaladon

I live in Colorado at 7,700 feet. Pro football teams learned long ago to come into Denver right before their games as the effects are felt less at first and much more a day or two later. Obama flew in just hours before the debate so altitude was not his problem.

Obama is weak when challenged directly, that’s all. Everyone has been afraid to challenge him due to the race baiting. Romney challenged him without looking racist, and that defense is now gone.


32 posted on 10/04/2012 12:25:12 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (....The days are long, but the years are short.....)
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To: The Sons of Liberty
He doesn’t carry his TOTUS to the ice cream shop, or to the third grade classroom for nothing!

LOL, ah yes... for anyone who needs reminding of that great PR moment:


33 posted on 10/04/2012 12:25:12 PM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1)
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To: tanknetter
I don't think that is what happened. From watching all the DNC spin masters in the Media last night, I think they were prepared for a repeat of McCain. They were not prepared for Romney at all. The Dems in the spin after the debate kept trotting out these inane absurd talking points that were completely at odds with everything we saw in the debate.

This is fairly typical for Leftists, once you take them off script they simply lack the intellectual ability to respond well. They prepared for one Romney and a completely different one showed up.

The problem for the Left is the real Obama showed up last night. No amount of repackaging can save a failed product.

34 posted on 10/04/2012 12:26:03 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: mandaladon

Axelrod can ‘polish’ zero’s style all he wants. The truth is that without his teleprompter and MSM zero cannot defend the indefensible. Zero lacks substance.


35 posted on 10/04/2012 12:26:14 PM PDT by duckman (I'm part of the group pulling the wagon!)
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To: mandaladon

When you say “bad” you don’t mean in a good way,right?


36 posted on 10/04/2012 12:27:06 PM PDT by Leep (Forward! To Surfdom)
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To: verga

Really? I always heard he was a master debator.


37 posted on 10/04/2012 12:27:09 PM PDT by GnL
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To: mandaladon
obama is a slacker and a skater and has never earned anything in his entire life. He is below average in intelligence but he is evil, devious and cunning. He was not “out of character"... his character was on display last night and it was flawed and low class.

LLS

38 posted on 10/04/2012 12:27:30 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer ("If it looks like you are not gonna make it you gotta get mean, I mean plumb mad-dog mean" J. Wales)
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To: oldbrowser

I’ve been saying all along that he’s on meds...and one of the reasons he has to use a teleprompter....because he can’t stay on message....cuz his head is messed up.


39 posted on 10/04/2012 12:27:43 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: fatnotlazy

“He that is good for making excuses is seldom good for anything else”
Benjamin Franklin


40 posted on 10/04/2012 12:27:53 PM PDT by mandaladon (PalinGenesis)
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To: mandaladon

I personally have never thought him to be a particularly good speaker. Compared to Bush or McCain sure, but only only TotUS. Off TotUS, he’s a blithering idiot.


41 posted on 10/04/2012 12:28:02 PM PDT by mykroar (October race/religious riots bring November martial law. Voting postponed for your safety.)
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To: GSWarrior

His laziness extends from his arrogance.
He believes he’s good enough that he doesn’t have to work hard.


42 posted on 10/04/2012 12:28:02 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Steely Tom

“Because he sucks?’’<,. Yup, he certainly does suck. Obama sucks big time. He’s the suckiest thing I ever saw suck.


43 posted on 10/04/2012 12:28:11 PM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: mandaladon
He wasn't especially bad. He was the same as he was during the debates with Hillary, its the media that fell in love and swept him into their arms and into the White House where they have kept him till they were hit with a reality bomb.

Love is blind. Sorry, America.

44 posted on 10/04/2012 12:28:47 PM PDT by Deb (If you wanna laugh everyday, follow Deepak Chopra on Twitter)
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To: Sacajaweau
He gets a big fat pension for life....And will never work again.

Not that he ever worked before.

45 posted on 10/04/2012 12:29:00 PM PDT by Maceman
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To: JediJones

I’ve wondered the same thing about that tape - it in itself wasn’t THAT shocking to those of us who pay attention - maybe the worst thing to me was the fake accent - but the timing of the release had to affect Zero.

As bad as zero was last night it’s hard to imagine he’ll be better on foreign policy. The ME is burning, countries with policies he favors are crumbling, he’s being endorsed by dictators because he opposes fracking....and on and on...

Why anyone ever thought the coddled inexperienced community organizer who refuses to show his records - especially school records - would even understand economics and be good at one of the toughest jobs in the world is something I’ve never understood.


46 posted on 10/04/2012 12:29:00 PM PDT by Aria ( 2008 wasn't an election - it was a coup d'etat.)
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To: mandaladon

First, Romney must be made to bow down to Obama because after all Obama is the President and Romney is merely a (former) Governor.

Second, Obama needs more time than Romney. This is because Obama, being a creatively gifted, right-lobed man, tends to say “um” and “ugh,” as his unprecedented genius gathers all the relevant information and carefully constructs the proper, nuanced and balanced response.

Third, Romney shouldn’t be allowed to use “facts.” Anybody can look up facts, nowadays. Therefore, knowledge of facts does not qualify anybody to be President. What is important isn’t what the facts are, but how you feel the facts should be.

Fourth and most importantly, nobody should ever “correct” the President. This might undermine the authority of the office. Ordinary people might think that the President is himself an ordinary person and not their better. How, then, could the government “ask” the people to take advantage of the opportunities it offers them to serve others through military conscription, forced “voluntary service,” and the patriotic duty to pay taxes?


47 posted on 10/04/2012 12:30:59 PM PDT by Redmen4ever
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To: mandaladon

Navy corpsemen. Your Honor, I rest my case.


48 posted on 10/04/2012 12:31:26 PM PDT by Focault's Pendulum (Obama A man without an American mission.)
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To: All

Mitt was like a computer. The facts on small topics were pouring out of his head. I chalk it up to the fact he never killed his braincells with booze, caffeine and smokes.

Meanwhile Obama looked like he just came tripping out of Choom Force One with a serious case of the munchies and no clue as to why he was there..
He was told to touch on the talking points (education, free stuff, mediscare) and to filibuster, which is what he did.


49 posted on 10/04/2012 12:32:24 PM PDT by newnhdad (Where will you be during the Election Riots of 2012/2013?)
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To: mandaladon
I really think most are over analyzing this. The debate last night showed Obama, the genuine article. It wasn't that he had a bad night, that was Obama. Simply put, Obama is nothing more than a Marxist Poly Sci. grad student.

All he did last night was fall back into weakly constructed philosophical arguments. That's all he had because that's who he is. A Marxist true believer who has gotten by in life and has been resolutely protected by a fawning, corrupt MSM. Obama was simply unmasked last night.

50 posted on 10/04/2012 12:32:24 PM PDT by Obadiah (The corrupt MSM is the enemy of the American people.)
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