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The Cleveland Clinic, cited as a "model" by Obama, is actually illegal under Obamacare
wyblog.us ^ | Oct 4 2012 | wyblog.us - NOT MY BLOG - H.G!

Posted on 10/04/2012 4:20:17 PM PDT by NoLibZone

The Cleveland Clinic is owned by doctors. But thanks to Obamacare it's illegal for doctors to own hospitals.

Section 6001 of the health care law effectively bans new physician-owned hospitals (POHs) from starting up, and it keeps existing ones from expanding. It has already halted the development of 24 new physician-owned hospitals and forced an additional 47 to struggle to meet the deadline to complete construction, according to the Physician Hospitals of America (PHA).

You couldn't build the Cleveland Clinic today if you wanted to.

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KEYWORDS: 2012; 2012debates; 2012electiondebates; clevelandclinic; debateone; debates; democrats; firstdebate; govtabuse; hospitals; nobama2012; obama; obamacare; physicianhospitals; poh; socialisthealthcare; tyranny
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To: nascarnation

And Romney was criticized for “investing” in the Caymans.

Seriously, the impact on medical R&D is going to be even more critical. Without incentives, there will be little R&D. My concern is that with deteriorating health care, we are setting ourselves up for a devastating epidemic. It could be something new or rare or exotic like Ebola, or it could be something very simple like antibiotic-resistant infections spread by lax hygiene, some of which we are already seeing.


21 posted on 10/05/2012 3:58:46 AM PDT by generally (Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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To: workerbee

Well Romney has destroyed Obama on Wednesday night. The next two debates will become the “mop-up” work. Cannot wait for the VP debate to take place. Rep. Ryan is going to expose VP Bidden bigtime.


22 posted on 10/05/2012 4:03:30 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Teacher317

If we really want to see costs come down in medicine we need more, not less competition.


23 posted on 10/05/2012 4:03:33 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: bushbuddy

This is what concerns me, since I am in my 50’s and three health battles this year alone, praise God I am now healed from them. But now I have become very, very guarded about my health and this stuff about “death panels” scares me.


24 posted on 10/05/2012 4:08:43 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: hinckley buzzard
It might be true to say that it couldn't be founded under obamacare the way it was in 1921, but then, so what.

So the clinic that is the model of innovation that the President cites in his first debate could not be started under the President's rules? That is a BFD, to paraphrase Joe Biden.

Or are you of the illusion that the economy is a static thing. We already have one Cleaveland Clinic, so we will never need another?

25 posted on 10/05/2012 4:29:53 AM PDT by Haiku Guy (HELLO!!!!! MY... NAME... IS... INIGO!!! MONTOYA!!!!!!!!! YOU! KILLED! MY! FATHER!!!!!!!)
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To: NoLibZone

Does Mayo Brothers Clinic in Minnesota come under the same definition?


26 posted on 10/05/2012 9:58:52 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: Haiku Guy
The Clinic as it is constituted today has nothing to do with the terms under which it was founded, which allegedly would be impermissable under Obamacare. Of course the economy is dynamic and the enterprise that wants to be successful will be also.

There is nothing in the way the Clinic operates today that would disqualify it under Obama care, given the necessary modifications, if any, being made. My point is, the article is based on inaccurate and/or outdated information.

27 posted on 10/05/2012 6:09:28 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: hinckley buzzard
The Clinic as it is constituted today has nothing to do with the terms under which it was founded, which allegedly would be impermissable under Obamacare.

By what magical means do you determine that the way the Cleveland Clinic operates today, where doctors are permitted to control patient care and are not straight-jacketed by procedures dictated by non-doctors, has nothing to do with the fact that the business was founded by doctors in the first place?

Seems to me that there might just be some connection there...

Of course, there is no way to prove it, one way or the other. So how about this for a proposal... We can have a system where we let anybody who wants to found and run hospitals can found and run hospitals. That way the good models can thrive and the poor models can be run out of business, and people can have innovative medicine at reasonable prices.

We can call this system "freedom"...

Hey, it's so crazy, it just might work!

28 posted on 10/05/2012 7:42:25 PM PDT by Haiku Guy (Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die!)
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To: hinckley buzzard

The reason that Physician Owned Hospitals (PHO) are disallowed/limited from growing under Obamacare is because the American Hospital Associations have been complaining that PHO’s take too much of the profitable procedures and do not provide enough “free care”. Ostensibly they complained that the physicians were conflicted by making referrals to a hospital that they had a financial interest in. In the end, Obamacare is really meant to be anti competitive and that was the bone thrown to the hospitals. IMHO.


29 posted on 10/07/2012 7:46:02 PM PDT by GeaugaRepublican ( "DO OBAMA VOTERS EXIST?")
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