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Poll: Jewish Democrats Abandoning Obama for Romney, Economy, Israel
Israel News Agency / Google News ^ | October 4, 2012 | Karen Levy

Posted on 10/04/2012 7:14:45 PM PDT by IsraelBeach

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To: justiceseeker93

By Election Day it may be 50/50.


51 posted on 10/05/2012 7:05:50 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: MarkL
My family is a lost cause.

Only if you think so. Pray for them, love them and try to have faith. God is amazing, and does things to change people's hearts.

52 posted on 10/05/2012 7:18:08 PM PDT by Bellflower (The LORD is Holy, separated from all sin, perfect, righteous, high and lifted up.)
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To: justiceseeker93

Florida is my big hope. It’s famously swingy, heavily Jewish in the South, and there’s also such x-factors as the PO’d Cubans who just managed to tip the scales for W in 2000, and the panhandle in a different time zone, and central Florida. So PO’d Jews might just tip the scales this year, even if only more Jews than usual vote GOP/less than usual vote DOP (low turnout). If my mother-in-law is any indication, the older they are, the harder it is for them to vote GOP, so low turnout of the disenchanted elders might do it, even if they can’t bring themselves to vote for Romney.


53 posted on 10/06/2012 2:25:38 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

“Romney being a “religious oddball” (Mormon) may actually help with this wannabe broad minded group.”

You have given voice to something I have thought for quite a while now. By Romney himself being a religious minority, this would give Jews a more comfortable candidate to back, knowing Mitt has dealt with the same kind of problems that being a religious minority brings. Hope what we think is true.


54 posted on 10/06/2012 2:37:12 PM PDT by flaglady47 (When the gov't fears the people, liberty; When the people fear the gov't, tyranny.)
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To: flaglady47; All
By Romney himself being a religious minority, this would give Jews a more comfortable candidate to back, knowing Mitt has dealt with the same kind of problems that being a religious minority brings. Hope what we think is true.

Speaking from a Jewish perspective, I would have to say that the large majority of Jewish voters have - unfortunately - little or no knowledge of the sordid history of the religious persecution of Mormons in the United States. That's not because of bigotry on the part of the Jews, but it's largely the result of the geographic distribution of the two groups in the country, so that it's fairly uncommon for Jews to have had experiences with Mormon friends or neighbors.

That having been said, I can relate that Mitt's father, George Romney, was well liked and respected by the Jewish community in Michigan during his long tenure as governor there, especially for a Republican, and his Mormonism was never a factor in that relationship.

55 posted on 10/06/2012 3:39:55 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: justiceseeker93
"I strongly doubt the authenticity of the photo you posted with a swastika purportedly painted on."

Take it up with the Smithsonian then. I became aware of the Nazi symbols when visiting the static display.

"There is no historical evidence of Charles A. Lindbergh being a Nazi or a Nazi collaborator."

Given you doubt photographs you can get on the Smithsonian website, I don't doubt you can't see the evidence, but here is some, anyay.

Lindburg was strongly active into "eugenics," posited the racial superiority of the "Nordic" race (in a Reader's Digest Article, no less).

He moved to Germany after Kristalnacht, and fathered three children with a local Nazi's daughter.

Had many Nazis are personal friends, including Albert Speer (Hitler's architecht) and kept photos of them in his house.

Wrote in his diaries that "We must limit to a reasonable amount the Jewish influence...Whenever the Jewish percentage of total population becomes too high, a reaction seems to invariably occur."

His FBI file (because he was suspected of being a spy) related many anti-Jewish activities.

Hitler personally awared Lindberg the Order of the German Eagle --- "a diplomatic and honorary award given to prominent foreigners, particularly diplomats, who were considered sympathetic to Nazism."


56 posted on 10/08/2012 8:48:23 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

“That’s all pretty weak and old-news compared to the actions of the current moslem-in-chief and the historic RAT racism dating back to before the Civil War. “

I don’t disagree with you. I am recounting the arguments I hear.

The worst are people on our side who defend the Nazi sympathizers in (or who were in) our midst.


57 posted on 10/08/2012 8:49:45 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: justiceseeker93

“To claim as you did that that is a true photo of the nose cone of “The Spirit of St. Louis” would require historical research to document the connections of those names on it to the history of the aircraft itself.”

You are normally a very smart poster. Seriously, all you have to do is google this and you can get the link to the Smithsonian Air & Space showing the Swastika in the nose cone.

Here:

http://airandspace.si.edu/images/collections/media/full/A19890217000CP05.jpg

Or you can go to the Barron Hilton wing and go see the nose cone yourself like I did.

Seriously, if you are going to defend Lindburg on this point, you’d have to argue it was a “good luck” symbol and had no connection with the Nazis behind the curtain (or Lindburg’s other anti-semitic activities), which is the ususual argument.


58 posted on 10/08/2012 9:23:07 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: Jewbacca; All
If your posted photo is accurate, and there is indeed a swastika painted on "the Spirit of St. Louis" by some Nazi admirers of Lindbergh that remains on public display at the Smithsonian, I would find it amazing that we haven't heard of any controversy surrounding it.

I'd like to personally take a trip to the Smithsonian to view the aircraft and see if it is true. If so, I think that enough political pressure can be generated to force the Smithsonian to get rid of the swastika graffiti. And I think it would make a major news story, even in today's often perverse mainstream media environment.

Yes, I knew that Lindbergh spent some months in Nazi Germany and gained enough confidence of high Nazi officials to get tours of Nazi military aircraft facilities. And I knew that he received a medal of honor from the Nazis. But could that have been all done as parts of an espionage mission for the United States? After all, cultivating friendships with Nazis could have been essential to this cause. I base this theory on a fascinating book I read titled "Lindbergh and Roosevelt" by James P. Duffy, published by Regnery in 2010.

It should also be noted that after Pearl Harbor, Lindbergh tried to re-enlist in the American military as an officer but was denied a commission by the personal intervention of Roosevelt. (The two had had squabbles before.) Eventually, Lindbergh contributed to the American war effort in a civilian aviation capacity, having input into the design and manufacture of American military aircraft.

59 posted on 10/08/2012 10:22:24 AM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: justiceseeker93

“If your posted photo is accurate, and there is indeed a swastika painted on “the Spirit of St. Louis”

Did you not track back the link on the picture to the Smithsonian Air & Space display? Or look in the background of the first link and see the rest of the display?

“But could that have been all done as parts of an espionage mission for the United States?”

No. Look a the basic facts: Lindburg:

(1) repeatedly wrote articles and made speechesfor years addressing eugenics, the superiority of the “Nordic Race” and the evil influence of Joooos;

(2) wrote in his DIARY about evil Jewish inflence;

(3) has FBI interviews about how he hated Jews and liked Nazis (go to thesmokinggun.com) and was considered a Nazi-sympathyzer by the FBI;

(4) publically attacked the “Jewish movie” people for attempting to stir-up hatred against the Nazis

(5) had Nazi friends

(6) attempted to influence US policy to help Nazis

Pretending he’s a super-spy for the moment, he wouldn’t have written in his DIARY that no-one read that he hated Jews, unless he’s in such deep cover he was hiding from himself.

I mean, the man wrote for the “Dearborn Independent” -— Henry Ford’s Anti-semitic newspaper that printed the Protocols of the Elders of Zion.

Looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, he’s a duck.

“It should also be noted that after Pearl Harbor, Lindbergh tried to re-enlist in the American military as an officer but was denied a commission by the personal intervention of Roosevelt.”

Regarding WWII, Lindburg served in combat with US Air Corp — fighting the Japanese.


60 posted on 10/08/2012 11:38:41 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: Jewbacca

Well, additionally to complete my point:

The deplorable positions of a few individuals, who are a tiny fraction of our overall numbers, cannot logically, and in good conscience, be used to smear our entire movement.

In the case of the RATS, the numbers of overt racists, seperatists and segregationists is huge. Most any Republican can start naming many famous and historic democrat bigots at the drop of a hat.

Then there’s the historic KKK nation.

It would be good to challenge a belligerent RAT-chauvanist to give examples of the perceived GOP offenders (probably three or four) then immediately repudiate them and state the Republican Party is not like that, and has a proud history of being “The Real Civil Rights Party” and by listing GOP actions and “firsts”.

Then proceed to list off all the shameful RAT bad actors and their bigoted past, and the KKK’s well-stated hatred of Jews.

Inform them they cannot find that ever inside the GOP because they were lied to by the haters.


61 posted on 10/08/2012 3:35:33 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month)
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