Skip to comments.Poll: Jewish Democrats Abandoning Obama for Romney, Economy, Israel
Posted on 10/04/2012 7:14:45 PM PDT by IsraelBeach
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By Election Day it may be 50/50.
Only if you think so. Pray for them, love them and try to have faith. God is amazing, and does things to change people's hearts.
Florida is my big hope. It’s famously swingy, heavily Jewish in the South, and there’s also such x-factors as the PO’d Cubans who just managed to tip the scales for W in 2000, and the panhandle in a different time zone, and central Florida. So PO’d Jews might just tip the scales this year, even if only more Jews than usual vote GOP/less than usual vote DOP (low turnout). If my mother-in-law is any indication, the older they are, the harder it is for them to vote GOP, so low turnout of the disenchanted elders might do it, even if they can’t bring themselves to vote for Romney.
“Romney being a religious oddball (Mormon) may actually help with this wannabe broad minded group.”
You have given voice to something I have thought for quite a while now. By Romney himself being a religious minority, this would give Jews a more comfortable candidate to back, knowing Mitt has dealt with the same kind of problems that being a religious minority brings. Hope what we think is true.
Speaking from a Jewish perspective, I would have to say that the large majority of Jewish voters have - unfortunately - little or no knowledge of the sordid history of the religious persecution of Mormons in the United States. That's not because of bigotry on the part of the Jews, but it's largely the result of the geographic distribution of the two groups in the country, so that it's fairly uncommon for Jews to have had experiences with Mormon friends or neighbors.
That having been said, I can relate that Mitt's father, George Romney, was well liked and respected by the Jewish community in Michigan during his long tenure as governor there, especially for a Republican, and his Mormonism was never a factor in that relationship.
“That’s all pretty weak and old-news compared to the actions of the current moslem-in-chief and the historic RAT racism dating back to before the Civil War. “
I don’t disagree with you. I am recounting the arguments I hear.
The worst are people on our side who defend the Nazi sympathizers in (or who were in) our midst.
“To claim as you did that that is a true photo of the nose cone of “The Spirit of St. Louis” would require historical research to document the connections of those names on it to the history of the aircraft itself.”
You are normally a very smart poster. Seriously, all you have to do is google this and you can get the link to the Smithsonian Air & Space showing the Swastika in the nose cone.
Or you can go to the Barron Hilton wing and go see the nose cone yourself like I did.
Seriously, if you are going to defend Lindburg on this point, you’d have to argue it was a “good luck” symbol and had no connection with the Nazis behind the curtain (or Lindburg’s other anti-semitic activities), which is the ususual argument.
I'd like to personally take a trip to the Smithsonian to view the aircraft and see if it is true. If so, I think that enough political pressure can be generated to force the Smithsonian to get rid of the swastika graffiti. And I think it would make a major news story, even in today's often perverse mainstream media environment.
Yes, I knew that Lindbergh spent some months in Nazi Germany and gained enough confidence of high Nazi officials to get tours of Nazi military aircraft facilities. And I knew that he received a medal of honor from the Nazis. But could that have been all done as parts of an espionage mission for the United States? After all, cultivating friendships with Nazis could have been essential to this cause. I base this theory on a fascinating book I read titled "Lindbergh and Roosevelt" by James P. Duffy, published by Regnery in 2010.
It should also be noted that after Pearl Harbor, Lindbergh tried to re-enlist in the American military as an officer but was denied a commission by the personal intervention of Roosevelt. (The two had had squabbles before.) Eventually, Lindbergh contributed to the American war effort in a civilian aviation capacity, having input into the design and manufacture of American military aircraft.
“If your posted photo is accurate, and there is indeed a swastika painted on “the Spirit of St. Louis”
Did you not track back the link on the picture to the Smithsonian Air & Space display? Or look in the background of the first link and see the rest of the display?
“But could that have been all done as parts of an espionage mission for the United States?”
No. Look a the basic facts: Lindburg:
(1) repeatedly wrote articles and made speechesfor years addressing eugenics, the superiority of the “Nordic Race” and the evil influence of Joooos;
(2) wrote in his DIARY about evil Jewish inflence;
(3) has FBI interviews about how he hated Jews and liked Nazis (go to thesmokinggun.com) and was considered a Nazi-sympathyzer by the FBI;
(4) publically attacked the “Jewish movie” people for attempting to stir-up hatred against the Nazis
(5) had Nazi friends
(6) attempted to influence US policy to help Nazis
Pretending he’s a super-spy for the moment, he wouldn’t have written in his DIARY that no-one read that he hated Jews, unless he’s in such deep cover he was hiding from himself.
I mean, the man wrote for the “Dearborn Independent” -— Henry Ford’s Anti-semitic newspaper that printed the Protocols of the Elders of Zion.
Looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, he’s a duck.
“It should also be noted that after Pearl Harbor, Lindbergh tried to re-enlist in the American military as an officer but was denied a commission by the personal intervention of Roosevelt.”
Regarding WWII, Lindburg served in combat with US Air Corp — fighting the Japanese.
Well, additionally to complete my point:
The deplorable positions of a few individuals, who are a tiny fraction of our overall numbers, cannot logically, and in good conscience, be used to smear our entire movement.
In the case of the RATS, the numbers of overt racists, seperatists and segregationists is huge. Most any Republican can start naming many famous and historic democrat bigots at the drop of a hat.
Then there’s the historic KKK nation.
It would be good to challenge a belligerent RAT-chauvanist to give examples of the perceived GOP offenders (probably three or four) then immediately repudiate them and state the Republican Party is not like that, and has a proud history of being “The Real Civil Rights Party” and by listing GOP actions and “firsts”.
Then proceed to list off all the shameful RAT bad actors and their bigoted past, and the KKK’s well-stated hatred of Jews.
Inform them they cannot find that ever inside the GOP because they were lied to by the haters.