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Dempsey opposes demotion of 4-star accused of wasting funds
Stars and Stripes ^ | October 4, 2012 | LOLITA C. BALDOR (AP)

Posted on 10/04/2012 10:27:00 PM PDT by Rabin

Edited on 10/05/2012 5:42:31 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

WASHINGTON (AP) -- America's top military officer is opposing the demotion of a four-star general for lavish travel and other expenses in a case that has been sitting on Defense Secretary Leon Panetta's desk for weeks... Army Gen. Martin Dempsey, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, believe that Gen. William Ward, (who claims a place in history as first) commander of Africa Command, should retire at his full four-star general.


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KEYWORDS: africa; africacommand; dempsey; martindempsey; usaraf; ward; williamward
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http://www.stripes.com/news/maj-gen-donahue-takes-command-of-us-army-africa-1.184807

“I know USARAF will be ready again to command and control a (joint task force) if called to do so in some yet unforeseen crisis,” Donahue said. Ham praised Hogg’s leadership as the unit transformed from “a tactical, contingency-focused headquarters to a regionally focused theater Army headquarters.”

Snip, Where the heck was U.S. Africa Command, while the not terrorists, protest ripped us a new asshole in Benghazi.

What is the correct lesson of Gaius Caligula.

J. Christopher Stevens, U.S. ambassador to Libya, Sean Smith, Foreign Service Information Officer, Glen Doherty, Former Navy SEAL, Tyrone S. Woods, Former Navy SEAL & many others can but wonder.

Raben

1 posted on 10/04/2012 10:27:09 PM PDT by Rabin
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To: Rabin

I’m planning on meting out a demotion for the CIC for lavish travel, wasted time, race baiting and incompetence.


2 posted on 10/04/2012 10:29:47 PM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (A half-truth is a complete lie)
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To: Rabin

Just googled the general. Was completely NOT surprised. The tip-off in the story was the line mentioning the “historic first”.


3 posted on 10/04/2012 10:42:36 PM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: Rabin

And this Dempsey is an utter tool. He’s the one who fired highly-decorated LtC Dooley because of his course material on Islam, and called a private citizen to tell him to back off of criticising Islam. I can’t stand this man, Dempsey.


4 posted on 10/04/2012 10:46:42 PM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: Rabin
Ward billed the government for a refueling stop overnight in Bermuda, where the couple stayed in a $750 suite. Ward and his wife, accepted dinner and Broadway show tickets from a government contractor billing for lengthy stays at lavish hotels for Ward, his wife and his staff members, at the (NY) Waldorf Astoria hotel. Ward used five-vehicle motorcades when he to shuttle his wife on Washington area shopping trips and spas.

How is this any different from what Barack and Michelle have done for 4 years? Change the names and the press would yawn.

5 posted on 10/04/2012 10:47:10 PM PDT by montag813
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To: Rabin

Gotta be kidding me. Military people and civil servants have been demoted and/or fired for wrongly staying an extra day on business or getting caught inflating their costs by a couple hundred bucks on cross-country PCS moves. This general treats every TDY like he’s Charles Lindburgh landing in Paris and he’s probably going to get away with it. This makes me crazy. Gen. Dempsey should have his ass fired and demoted for even suggesting this.


6 posted on 10/04/2012 10:47:22 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Liberalism is a social disease.)
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To: Sgt_Schultze

Yup. Pres. Obama, I’m your boss. Here’s your review: you suck—and you’re fired!!!


7 posted on 10/04/2012 10:49:00 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Liberalism is a social disease.)
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To: Rabin

If that 4-star had disparaged Islamic terrorists, Demspey would want a court martial.


8 posted on 10/04/2012 10:49:24 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: mrsmel

Dempsey is Obama’s buttboy in Defense. More interested in Women In the Military, Gays in the Military, and attacking good field officers. Won’t give our forces in Afghanistan the weapons they need - napalm, heavy bomber support, permission to fire at once-armed hostiles, etc.

The worst military commander since (Custer at Little Big Horn; McClellan at both battles of Bull Run; Gen. Mark Clark refusing to drive into Rome when the Germans had fled - didn’t believe forward observer soldiers and journalists who found the road to Rome was deserted; Secy of Defense McNamara). Take your choice.


9 posted on 10/04/2012 11:01:03 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: Rabin

Oh goody another political promotion type of officer...just like Wesley Clark. And how in the hell does a four star retire at nearly a quarter of a million per year??? Hell give him a nice 125,00 and send the rest to the real soldiers


10 posted on 10/04/2012 11:01:23 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

All of the above. He fits right into Barry’s agenda to weaken and undermine America and our military. Do these people ever see anything other through the PC goggles?


11 posted on 10/04/2012 11:06:40 PM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: Rabin

200 thousand of my tax dollars for a retired desk pilot? Unbelievable how open the looting of the public treasury is these days. Enough is enough. No benefits for any public employee. Let them pay for it from their own pocket, and rather than mine for decades later. This has got to stop at some point.

Sorry, soldier, and you don’t get body armor, we have to pay flag officer pensions.


12 posted on 10/04/2012 11:10:07 PM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: mrsmel
He also told the former Navy SEALs of OPSEC that they should stop criticizing the pResident for his information leaks and gross negligence on national security.

That's right, an active duty officer told former-duty officers they were out of bounds to comment on politics.

13 posted on 10/04/2012 11:13:25 PM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

Don’t forget Gen. Fredenhall at Kasserine Pass.


14 posted on 10/04/2012 11:18:57 PM PDT by princeofdarkness (The Obama Administration is circling the wagons. But the Truth Indians are using flaming arrows.)
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To: Rabin
Gen. Ward presented me with my first coin back in the day.

I recall him passing out in one of our runs.

Kinda set the tone with that.

15 posted on 10/04/2012 11:23:51 PM PDT by Theoria (Romney is a Pyrrhic victory.)
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To: mrsmel

Is he gay?


16 posted on 10/05/2012 12:03:49 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Obama likes to claim credit for getting Osama. Why hasn't he tried Khalid Sheikh Mohammed yet?)
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To: Rabin

Just following the example of his CINC.


17 posted on 10/05/2012 1:08:25 AM PDT by exnavy (The time is upon us, fish or cut bait, may God guide your heart.)
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To: mrsmel

U.S. Africa Command.....Yes this disgraced commander just happens to be black. U.S. Africa Command has only existed since October 2008 and smells of feel good PC to me. Heap that PC BS high and appoint this affirmative action stooge. This Obama clone


18 posted on 10/05/2012 1:14:23 AM PDT by dennisw (Government be yo mamma - Re-elect Barack Obama)
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To: Rabin

I never heard of our “Africa Command” (what a joke) until this General William Ward decided to go power mad and become a disgrace


19 posted on 10/05/2012 1:20:33 AM PDT by dennisw (Government be yo mamma - Re-elect Barack Obama)
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To: dennisw
The allegations, coming after a 17-month investigation, have delayed Ward's planned April 2011 retirement. And they were an embarrassing end note to his career, since he had claimed a place in history as the military's first commander of Africa Command.
20 posted on 10/05/2012 1:25:28 AM PDT by dennisw (Government be yo mamma - Re-elect Barack Obama)
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To: dennisw
Gen. William "Kip" Ward has been under investigation for about 17 months, and Defense Secretary Leon Panetta is expected to make a final decision on the matter before the end of the month, according to several defense officials.

The defense officials said Ward is facing numerous allegations that he spent several hundred thousand dollars allowing unauthorized people, including family members, to fly on government planes, and spent excessive amounts of money on hotel rooms, transportation and other expenses when he traveled as head of Africa Command.

21 posted on 10/05/2012 1:29:06 AM PDT by dennisw (Government be yo mamma - Re-elect Barack Obama)
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To: mrsmel
Yep, me too. Just something or other in the brief summary gave me the feeling that Gen. Ward might just be another brother, movin' on up with Eric Holder and Barack Obama.

After finishing the story, then looking Gen. Ward up on line satisfied me that his elitist "entitled" behavior of rooms at the Waldorf Astoria for him and staff, was warranted because he belonged to the club.

22 posted on 10/05/2012 1:43:59 AM PDT by zerosix (Native sunflower)
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To: jazusamo; Girlene; 4woodenboats; Grimmy; xzins; smoothsailing; lilycicero; bigheadfred; ...
Defense Department inspector general's report concluded that Ward "engaged in multiple forms of misconduct related to official and unofficial travel... Ward billed the government for a refueling stop overnight in Bermuda, where the couple stayed in a $750 suite. Ward and his wife, accepted dinner and Broadway show tickets from a government contractor billing for lengthy stays at lavish hotels for Ward, his wife and his staff members, at the (NY) Waldorf Astoria hotel.

Ward used five-vehicle motorcades when he shuttled his wife to Washington area shopping trips and spas.

America's top military officer is opposing the demotion of a four-star general for lavish travel and other expenses... Army Gen. Martin Dempsey, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, believe that Gen. William Ward should retire at his full four-star general.


General William Ward

See where this pathetic whore Dempsey is coming from?
You would need the jaws of life to get Dempsey's tongue out of Ubama's anus.

23 posted on 10/05/2012 1:55:37 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Rabin

Would Dempsey be so kind to a COL or a CPT who executed such fraud, waste, and abuse for his own personal gain? Not a bloody chance. This is simply the flag officer good ol’ boys club coming to the rescue.


24 posted on 10/05/2012 2:24:05 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: Rabin

It’s good to see that people like Wesley Clark, Stan McChrystal, and George Casey are not alone in their pursuit of idiocy, mass death at the altar of PC, and good old-fashioned double-standards.


25 posted on 10/05/2012 2:30:18 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: Rabin
Dempsey is a political operative for Obama. Would he be the type of General who would order troops to fire on Americans when Obama commands it?
26 posted on 10/05/2012 2:34:32 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: Theoria

Really? Because I worked with COL Kip Ward in Bele Dogle, Somalia, 1992-93, and was very impressed by him. Don’t know about his later activities as a general officer, but he was a damn fine Brigade Commander in the Tenth Mountain Division.

And if you’ve never passed out in a PT run at least once in the military, then you weren’t trying hard enough.


27 posted on 10/05/2012 3:37:42 AM PDT by ReaganCowboy (History books are written by winners.)
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To: Rabin

I’d like to see this traitor Dempsey busted down to buck private.


28 posted on 10/05/2012 3:57:54 AM PDT by Emperor Palpatine ("On the ascent of Olympus, what's a botched bar or two?" -Artur Schnabel)
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To: Rabin
Retiring as a three-star would Ward's $236,650 a year in retirement pay to $208,802 a year.

Excuse Me $208,802 + Bennies!

29 posted on 10/05/2012 4:03:15 AM PDT by Valin (I'm not completely worthless. I can be used as a bad example.)
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To: mrsmel
Just googled the general. Was completely NOT surprised. The tip-off in the story was the line mentioning the “historic first”.


30 posted on 10/05/2012 4:07:21 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Charlie Daniels - Payback Time http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWwTJj_nosI)
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To: Rabin

Let’s take a look:

- chastises SEALs for entering the political arena (in opposition to Obama) after leaving the military despite many other former military men doing the same to include Carter, Clark, and Eisenhower to name a few,
- fires a LTC due to political correctness despite the LTC’s career record showing the was an up-and-comer potential future general,
- protects the post retirement benefits of a black general that violated the trust placed in him to be a good steward of taxpayer dollars and may I opine this is probably not the first and only misdeed he has committed since I doubt he would have just turned criminal after putting on stars.

I guess now we know why he’s there and who his godfather is; just look across the Potomac and past the Lincoln Memorial from the Pentagon to find his true master.

Shameful.


31 posted on 10/05/2012 4:08:02 AM PDT by Sine_Pari
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To: Truth29
Dempsey is a political operative for Obama. Would he be the type of General who would order troops to fire on Americans when Obama commands it?

Do you have any doubt? Obama's Clown Posse has spent the last four years making sure that such people were recruited and promoted. It's one main reason for the active recruitment of gays in the military. Do you think that gay troops would have any fondness for bible-thumping Christian rednecks if it came down to it?

32 posted on 10/05/2012 4:11:59 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Charlie Daniels - Payback Time http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWwTJj_nosI)
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To: ReaganCowboy
"And if you’ve never passed out in a PT run at least once in the military, then you weren’t trying hard enough."

Well, I guess you can count me as not trying hard enough. Though I've made runs up Margarita Peak on Pendleton and hiked up Mt Fuji in Japan and did many other ball busting runs...
33 posted on 10/05/2012 4:23:41 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: Rabin

34 posted on 10/05/2012 4:24:35 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: ReaganCowboy

Made it through BUD/S Class 105 in 1979, then east coast frogs, never passed out on a run. Guess I didn’t try hard enough.


35 posted on 10/05/2012 4:27:32 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: kingattax

Dempsey Ping.

Just...WOW!


36 posted on 10/05/2012 4:28:43 AM PDT by left that other site (Worry is the Darkroom that Develops Negatives.)
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To: Rabin

I have been reading about this Dempsey jerk for several months. He is totally despicable. He fits in very comfortable with the Kenyan bastard and the bastard’s clan. This is why he is #1 brass ass at the Pentagon.

And it would not surprise me if he is a homosexual.


37 posted on 10/05/2012 4:59:00 AM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: Rabin

If Dempsey thinks this is OK, I’d suggest that the IG look into his travel vouchers as well.


38 posted on 10/05/2012 5:18:23 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: Rabin
Ward used five-vehicle motorcades when he to shuttle his wife on Washington area shopping trips and spas.

Since he is so skilled at these motorcades shuttles, send him over top Afghanistan to run them.

39 posted on 10/05/2012 5:19:50 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Truth29

“Dempsey is a political operative for Obama. Would he be the type of General who would order troops to fire on Americans when Obama commands it?”

Yes.

This Dempsey brass ass is very dangerous.


40 posted on 10/05/2012 5:28:09 AM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: Rabin

Funny how Wikipedia mentions hundreds of thousands of dollars of (theft, IMO), yet the excerpt from the left-leaning newspaper makes it seem like just hundreds or a few thousand dollars.


41 posted on 10/05/2012 5:32:14 AM PDT by PghBaldy (I am sick of Obama's and Hillary's apologies to muslims, especially after 11 September 2012.)
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To: Uncle Chip

He was trying to get over.


42 posted on 10/05/2012 5:32:33 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you really want to annoy someone, point out something obvious that they are trying hard to ignore)
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To: kingu
200 thousand of my tax dollars for a retired desk pilot? Unbelievable how open the looting of the public treasury is these days. Enough is enough.

YEP -- and yet whenever they talk about entitlement reform these outrageous public pensions are never on the table.

43 posted on 10/05/2012 5:55:01 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Lancey Howard; Rabin
If these allegations are true and it sure looks as if they are, Gen. Dempsey backing Gen. Ward on this says as much about Dempsey's lack of honor as Ward's, if not more.

Unfortunately, when the country is saddled with a president and CinC who sets a horrible example as has Obama those with moral shortcomings will surface, this seems to be the case here.

Thanks for the ping.

44 posted on 10/05/2012 8:06:25 AM PDT by jazusamo ("Intellect is not wisdom" -- Thomas Sowell)
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To: ReaganCowboy
"And if you’ve never passed out in a PT run at least once in the military, then you weren’t trying hard enough." Huh?


45 posted on 10/05/2012 10:13:15 AM PDT by CodeToad (Padme: "So this is how liberty dies... with thunderous applause.")
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To: Lancey Howard

must have dirt on him in or he’s guilty of doing the same thing....


46 posted on 10/05/2012 1:46:40 PM PDT by Dick Vomer (democrats are like flies, whatever they don't eat they sh#t on.)
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To: Dick Vomer
...must have dirt on him in or he’s guilty of doing the same thing....

Both strong possibilities, but I suspect it may be something as simple as Dempsey having his political tongue up Ubama's political ass.

47 posted on 10/05/2012 2:19:40 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard

Dempsey again? This guy is a jerk.


48 posted on 10/05/2012 6:08:19 PM PDT by Girlene
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To: montag813

I’d actually give him a pass on the Bermuda stop. The only reason the military base there exists is so that generals can fly their Lear-type jets in to make overnight “fuel stops” combined with “crew rest”, get in a round of golf, eat dinner and sleep in a suite at the Ritz, and slurp $2 cocktails at the Officers’ Club. Pretty hard to nail this guy on something that’s been common-practice among generals for literally decades. It should’ve been BRAC’d before BRAC was even thought of.

I like the 5-car motorcades. Who is this whack, Idi Amin?

I heard that this guy got his wife on all his trips by inventing a fictional employee (a “Captain Tuttle”, for those of you who watched M*A*S*H when it was still watchable) and having his wife travel on those travel orders. Don’t know if that’s really true but I seem to remember reading it somewhere.


49 posted on 10/05/2012 8:17:58 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Liberalism is a social disease.)
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

Don’t forget flaming homo Weseley “Advocate Magazine” Clark. That moron’s career had one foot in grave and the other on a banana peel. He made 4-star rank overnight after engaging civilians with military hardware and personnel on Klinton/Reno’s orders. That bastard better hope I never meet him out on the town (highly doubtful, I don’t hang around gay bars).


50 posted on 10/05/2012 8:24:59 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Liberalism is a social disease.)
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