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Clover Korean War vet gets 30 days in jail for junk on property
Herald Online (Pennsylvania) ^ | 10/4/2012 | Andrew Dys

Posted on 10/05/2012 10:12:14 AM PDT by oldernittany

Johnny Ramsey, the 79-year-old Korean War veteran who collected and sold junk to pay for medications for his ailing wife, said just minutes before court Thursday evening: “If I have to go to jail, I guess I am ready.”

....Clover Police officers handcuffed Ramsey – whose nephew is a sheriff’s deputy, whose son is in Afghanistan on his fourth deployment to war – and walked him outside the court building and put him in a police car.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Politics/Elections; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: 2012; govtabuse; policestate; propertyrights; rapeofliberty; tyranny
80 year war veteran, whose son is on his fourth deployment in Afghanistan is jailed because he was collecting and selling junk ON HIS OWN PROPERTY to pay for his wife's medications. What country do we live in??
1 posted on 10/05/2012 10:12:17 AM PDT by oldernittany
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To: oldernittany

But EmptychairCare would have made the medication free in two more years.

Or unnecessary.


3 posted on 10/05/2012 10:14:41 AM PDT by Larry Lucido (Romney/Ryan 2012)
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To: oldernittany

If only he knew it wasn’t really his property.


4 posted on 10/05/2012 10:17:19 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: oldernittany
Particularly with a widower of that age one can wonder about his neurological and/or psychiatric status.I understand why neighbors want tidy yards (for property values purposes) but I'll wager that there was another way to handle this.For example,they could have hired a service to clean the yard and put that bill as a lien on the house.
5 posted on 10/05/2012 10:23:50 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Ambassador Stevens Is Dead And The Chevy Volt Is Alive)
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To: oldernittany
Ooops,misread the piece...thought his wife was deceased.Still probably an overreaction on the part of the city.
6 posted on 10/05/2012 10:27:12 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Ambassador Stevens Is Dead And The Chevy Volt Is Alive)
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To: Gay State Conservative

According to the article people are trying to help him out. They donated money for the fine and are helping to put up a privacy fence. The neighbors did not complain. He was cited by code compliance. There is also some information about Ramsey’s past that wouldn’t look good in the headline.


7 posted on 10/05/2012 10:27:14 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: oldernittany

Ok, I’ve gotta little problem with this quote....

“...I got no problem with the ‘po-lice....”

My family hails from West Virginia and they (and I) sometimes pronounce words a little “funny.” But if this guy had been an African-American and spoke with a poor “Black dialect,” do you think they would have drawn attention to it this way?

Same for Mexican or Asian ar any other “funny” dialect.


8 posted on 10/05/2012 10:28:33 AM PDT by JoeDetweiler
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To: oldernittany

The picture won’t post here, but just click on it at the link to enlarge it.

I don’t know. Is that what they call “junk”? I should think he could get away with calling it outdoor art. And the lawn looks extremely neat and well-mowed, too.

Nasty neighbors, I’d say.


9 posted on 10/05/2012 10:29:51 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: oldernittany

Is it messy or organized? Can you see it from nearby properties? Is there odor? Do pest creatures live and breed in it? Just because it’s your property doesn’t give you the right to be a nuisance.


10 posted on 10/05/2012 10:30:46 AM PDT by discostu (Put another dime in the jukebox.)
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To: Cicero

Sorry, I guess it wasn’t the neighbors, but the city officials. Jerks.


11 posted on 10/05/2012 10:30:57 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Moonman62

“There is also some information about Ramsey’s past that wouldn’t look good in the headline.”

Yeah, didn’t see that stuff buried near the end of the article.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3FnpaWQJO0


12 posted on 10/05/2012 10:33:03 AM PDT by oldernittany
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To: oldernittany

I dont care what he was a veteran of, if his yard was full of junk (which can be anything from scrap metal to actual bags of trash), strewn about in heaps, and the city catches you, you’re screwed.

He didn’t heed warnings from the town and in the end though a rush fix would take the heat off.

Everyone there seems to have been bending over backwards to help him out. He should take them up on it.


13 posted on 10/05/2012 10:45:42 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: Moonman62
There is also some information about Ramsey’s past that wouldn’t look good in the headline.

Are you referring to the fact that Ramsey once belonged to the same social organization as the esteemed and beloved democrat senator Robert Byrd, now deceased?

The same man who was the longest serving senator in history and known as " “the conscience of the Senate”"?

The same man who once wrote:

“Rather I should die a thousand times, and see Old Glory trampled in the dirt never to rise again, than to see this beloved land of ours become degraded by race mongrels, a throwback to the blackest specimen from the wilds.”


14 posted on 10/05/2012 11:06:42 AM PDT by Iron Munro (Obamaspeak: An army of pompous phrases marching across the landscape in search of an idea.)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Locally, the BOY SCOUTS do clean up of places where the elderly cannot keep ahead of things. They swarm a property for a Sat & Sun and get’erdone.

The local trash hauling company provides free rollaway dumpsters & take the trash out at no charge, also.

This last summer, they cleaned up 9 or more properties.

We live in a velley that has less than 5000 people.


15 posted on 10/05/2012 11:12:03 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: oldernittany

Bastards.


16 posted on 10/05/2012 11:16:39 AM PDT by Minnesota fox
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To: Moonman62
He was cited by code compliance.

Some of the most sadistic humans you will encounter are code enforcers. They relish bringing utter misery to other humans.

Government is an instrument of force. Many who are attracted to government have evil in their heart and enjoy bringing pain and destruction to others.

17 posted on 10/05/2012 11:19:24 AM PDT by sand88
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To: Gay State Conservative
"Particularly with a widower of that age one can wonder about his neurological and/or psychiatric status."

Ageist much? I have met quite a few octogenarians and nonagenarians who, given the ill-considered nature of your comment, are probably quite a bit sharper than you are.

Conversely, I've met many, many more stupid 30-year-olds than I have 80-year-olds. The thing about stupidity is that eventually it will catch up with you.

18 posted on 10/05/2012 11:24:22 AM PDT by 60Gunner (Fight with your head high, or live with your head low so you can dodge the bullets.)
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To: Gay State Conservative
Still probably an overreaction on the part of the city.

Probably? My God have we all gone mad?

Madness.

19 posted on 10/05/2012 11:26:19 AM PDT by itsahoot (I'll write in Palin in 2012. That is 1 vote for Palin, 0 votes for Romney and Zer0 votes for Obama.)
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To: sand88

“Many who are attracted to government have evil in their heart and enjoy bringing pain and destruction to others.”

The modern state creates such a class of citizens, fitted to its needs.


20 posted on 10/05/2012 11:27:28 AM PDT by headsonpikes (Mass murder and cannibalism are the twin sacraments of socialism - "Who-whom?"-Lenin)
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To: 60Gunner
Ageist much? I have met quite a few octogenarians and nonagenarians who, given the ill-considered nature of your comment, are probably quite a bit sharper than you are.

Sharper than me? Yah,could be.I lost my 95 year old aunt a few years ago who was sharp as a tack until a couple of years before her death.I also have a sister in law who was diagnosed with Alzheimer's in her late 60's.I,like you,have a background in medicine.Yours is (partially,at least) in ER nursing.Mine is in ER Administration...large Boston hospital.Assuming you have access to these journals' online services perhaps you'd do a keyword search of JAMA,NEJM, The Lancet,Archives of General Psychiatry,Brain,Neurology and others and see if you can come up with studies demonstrating how common,or uncommon,signs of early (or not so early) neuropsychiatric deterioration is in 79 year old white males.I'd do it just to satisfy my own curiosity but I left the hospital years ago and no longer have access to such databases.

21 posted on 10/05/2012 11:59:41 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Ambassador Stevens Is Dead And The Chevy Volt Is Alive)
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To: oldernittany
The case began when the city told him he couldn't run a junkyard from his residence, he was found guilty of refusing to clean it up in January and then the judge gave him several more months to do so and pay a $500 fine. The city has even been taking it away for him if he brings it to the curb.

It sounds to me like he is just another sad case of a classic mentally ill hoarder that refuses to follow the law...


22 posted on 10/05/2012 3:11:20 PM PDT by Tamzee (The U.S. re-electing Obama would be like the Titanic backing up and ramming the iceberg again.)
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