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Romney Admits '47 Percent' Was Wrong
Fox News via ABC/Yahoo ^ | 10/5/2012 | Emily Friedman

Posted on 10/05/2012 10:48:18 AM PDT by L,TOWM

Mitt Romney for the first time characterized his comments during a fundraiser that were surreptitiously filmed and caught the candidate essentially writing off 47 percent of Americans as "completely wrong."

"Clearly in a campaign with hundreds if not thousands of speeches and question and answer sessions, now and then you're gonna say something that doesn't come out right," Romney said in an interview Wednesday night with Fox News' Sean Hannity. "In this case I said something that's just completely wrong."

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 47percent; election; mittens; romney
Well, OK then...
1 posted on 10/05/2012 10:48:25 AM PDT by L,TOWM
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To: L,TOWM

Actually...I knew exactly what he meant....And Madison warned of it....Read 55 Men and the Constitution


2 posted on 10/05/2012 10:51:39 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (r)
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To: L,TOWM

If that’s the way he honestly feels, then so be it. Rather have him be truthful than otherwise.


3 posted on 10/05/2012 10:51:43 AM PDT by LibFreeUSA
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To: L,TOWM

http://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.39015010345430;view=2up;seq=82;q1=senate;start=21;size=10;page=search;num=74#page/74/mode/2up


4 posted on 10/05/2012 10:53:22 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (r)
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To: L,TOWM

he is wrong for saying he was wrong.


5 posted on 10/05/2012 10:53:53 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: L,TOWM
"Clearly in a campaign with hundreds if not thousands of speeches and question and answer sessions, now and then you're gonna say something that doesn't come out right

So once again the Mass Media spin put on the statement is completely at odds with what was actually said.

6 posted on 10/05/2012 10:54:50 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: L,TOWM

Maybe he meant the 47% is really 50%.


7 posted on 10/05/2012 10:54:53 AM PDT by nanetteclaret (Unreconstructed Catholic Texan)
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To: LibFreeUSA

At least he doesn’t seem a pathological liar like soetoro.


8 posted on 10/05/2012 10:55:16 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: Secret Agent Man

Not really an issue anymore but put some distance to it. Barry has nothing else so deny him even this


9 posted on 10/05/2012 10:55:53 AM PDT by italianquaker (The 47 pct need to pay their fair share)
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To: L,TOWM
this is nothing for anyone to make a big deal about.

its a mere campaign housekeeping move intended to clean up and remove an obozo line of attack.

in the last few weeks of this campaign, RR wants to be totally on offense.

10 posted on 10/05/2012 10:57:52 AM PDT by kingattax (99 % of liberals give the rest a bad name)
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To: L,TOWM

This is really just preparing for the next debate. You know Dopey Barack will be bringing up the 47% comment over and over and this allows Romney to deflect.


11 posted on 10/05/2012 10:58:57 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: L,TOWM

This is really just preparing for the next debate. You know Dopey Barack will be bringing up the 47% comment over and over and this allows Romney to deflect.


12 posted on 10/05/2012 10:58:57 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: L,TOWM

Yes, it was wrong.

The actual number is more like 52%.


13 posted on 10/05/2012 11:00:01 AM PDT by vonkayel
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To: kingattax

I like what you said =)


14 posted on 10/05/2012 11:00:12 AM PDT by Jane Long (Soli Deo Gloria!)
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To: L,TOWM

What he said never bothered me. He was conflating several issues so understood literally, it wasn’t right. But I understood the point he was trying to make.

One point is that nearly half the country pays no income tax. If that number reaches 50% we are toast.

A second issue is that fact that so many people, and companies too, are dependent on government. That percentage is also very high, and if it reaches beyond a certain point, again, we’re toast.

A third issue is that, among the people and companies too that are dependent on government, many of them can’t conceive of a world in which they are not dependent. The likelihood is that they are never going to vote for less government. So a politician running on a platform that is based on limited government is going to have a hard time selling it. Repubs like to blab on about tax cuts but tax cuts don’t inspire anyone and most especially they don’t inspire people who see themselves as dependent. Explaining the whole notion of limited government and freedom to such people requires you to explain concepts we tend to take for granted, the connection between freedom, and happiness, freedom and prosperity. Freedom for its own sake. And still you aren’t going to reach some people.

Fourthly, there is a certain core of people who will never vote for a Repub no matter what. You’re probably wasting your time with them.

These four groups are not identical, though there is a pretty good overlap. Conflating them was rhetorical shorthand. I think most people got it.


15 posted on 10/05/2012 11:02:46 AM PDT by marron
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To: L,TOWM

Sensible move. True or not, his comments here were poorly presented and susceptible to being spun against him. Right now, he’s basking in the post-debate glow of his performance on Wednesday, and statements such as this for once are attracting little criticism in the MSM. Should this issue come up in a future debate now, he can simply say ‘look, I mis-spoke. I’ve already said that unequivocably, weeks ago. Let’s move on to discuss what’s important.’

Contrary to popular belief, I don’t think the general public necessary expect politicians to be infallible. Admitting a minor mistake in one’s words during one speech out of thousands can actually help to develop a reputation for honesty and straight dealing.


16 posted on 10/05/2012 11:04:47 AM PDT by Zajko (Never wrestle with a pig. You'll both get dirty, but the pig likes it.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

I doubt that he’s wrong. The number is more like 20%. He just got his numbers mixed up. He was thinking the percent that is not paying income tax is the same as those getting a free ride.

It’s not.


17 posted on 10/05/2012 11:06:46 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: marron

read #4 post....Switch it to scroll at the top....Madison at his best....from 55 Men & the Constitution


18 posted on 10/05/2012 11:07:13 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (r)
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To: L,TOWM

He was wrong.

While there are waaaaaay too many Americans who want nothing more than an ever increasing government handout, it is not 47%.

A large portion of that 47% is seniors, who largely support Romney. Another large portion is poor young people who don’t have much now, but aspire to great things later in life.

Better to speak to their hopes and dreams instead of appearing to just write them off as a lost cause.


19 posted on 10/05/2012 11:09:15 AM PDT by comebacknewt (Newt (sigh) what could have been . . .)
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To: L,TOWM

And people DON’T like politicians who get caught.

Then he needs to come clean and admit Extortion-Care in Massachusetts or otherwise was wrong.

Further he needs to admit coming back with an “replaced” Extortion-Care where people are at the mercy of insurance company dictates, is also wrong.

And finally, if he took any kind of compensation as governor of Massachusetts, from Massachusetts, health care on taxpayers dime, then he has actually indicted himself of mooching off productive taxpayers, along with the rest of the GOP and Dem hypocrites mooching off their extravagant retirements, Exemptions from Extortion-Care, salaries and compensations self-hiked, free transportation, aides, recesses, campaigning while working, etc., on and on and on.


20 posted on 10/05/2012 11:14:06 AM PDT by Varsity Flight (Extortion-Care is the Government Work-Camp: Arbeitsziehungslager)
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To: Sacajaweau

Thank you. Good post.


21 posted on 10/05/2012 11:15:34 AM PDT by marron
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To: L,TOWM

What was wrong was that he inferred that all of those on government support, including people on unemployment, would not vote for him.

If you are unemployed and collecting unemployment and really WANT a job, Romney is the guy for you.

If you just want to sit back, collect that unemployment check and then graduate onto welfare and medicare, vote for Obama.


22 posted on 10/05/2012 11:17:27 AM PDT by ZULU (See video: http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2012/09/the-first-siege-of-vienna.html)
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To: Jane Long

thanks :)


23 posted on 10/05/2012 11:18:06 AM PDT by kingattax (99 % of liberals give the rest a bad name)
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To: L,TOWM

Media’s little game is boring. A little appeasement may calm them down.


24 posted on 10/05/2012 11:18:46 AM PDT by granada
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To: xzins

yeah i see your point.


25 posted on 10/05/2012 11:21:25 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Opinionated Blowhard
Romney needs mention Zer0’s statement “You really didn't build that” in the next debate. He needs to look him directly in the eye and tell him to either apologize or explain why he supports socialism that the statement implies.
26 posted on 10/05/2012 11:25:17 AM PDT by Evil Slayer (Onward, Christian soldiers, marching as to war....)
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To: L,TOWM
He's right that the Democrats can count on about 47% of the vote no matter what. He could have been more precise on who those people are - many seniors receiving checks and paying little or no income tax vote conservative. But he's right to the extent that there's a coalition that forms the base of the Democratic Party made up of government workers, people who work for government-funded enterprises of various kinds like universities and think tanks, government unions, the usual-suspect ethnic groups (with a lot of overlap with the other categories), etc. Add all of that up and you're pretty much at 47%.

The Democrats could run the Boston Strangler and that 47% would vote for him just because he's got a "D" behind his name.

The really bad news is that they've nearly succeeded in forming a 51% absolute majority. And with immigration, their victory seems assured, assuming that there isn't some major reaction by the oppressed 49% (there seems no movement toward that at this time).

We're basically screwed.

27 posted on 10/05/2012 11:37:06 AM PDT by Gluteus Maximus
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To: L,TOWM

I’m sure Romney is extremely ready to discuss his 47% remark in a debate. The Obama team probably knows what will happen if Obama brings it up, and they know it won’t make Obama shine.


28 posted on 10/05/2012 11:41:01 AM PDT by cymbeline
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To: L,TOWM

A liberal flip-flopper - get used to seeing the liar and double faced Mitt Happens in a Romney White House.

Ugghh.... I’m not expecting anything to change under him. The only positive thing is hopefully America will stop declining.

That’s good enough for me as I can’t stand his social policies - and you all know what they are.


29 posted on 10/05/2012 11:45:28 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: marron
Getting back to basics and the Constitutional liberties the Founding Fathers left for us, NOBODY PAID INCOME TAXES AT ALL.

And you don't think that's good?

30 posted on 10/05/2012 11:55:16 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Gluteus Maximus
yes, the faculty of Harvard are part of the Democrat conspiracy.

On the other hand that's an intensely private organization ~ with an enormous endowment.

I think you should review your list again

31 posted on 10/05/2012 11:58:08 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
Getting back to basics and the Constitutional liberties the Founding Fathers left for us, NOBODY PAID INCOME TAXES AT ALL. And you don't think that's good?

Nobody paying income tax is good. Everybody paying income tax is less good. Half the people levying taxes on the other half is bad.

32 posted on 10/05/2012 1:27:13 PM PDT by marron
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To: muawiyah

I would imagine that even a private institution like Harvard has deep contacts with government at all levels. Research grants, student loans, pell grants, etc.


33 posted on 10/05/2012 1:59:24 PM PDT by Gluteus Maximus
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To: Gluteus Maximus
Students who qualify for Pell grants also qualify for a full scholarship at Harvard.

Their endowment is incredibly large, so they don't work like a normal school.

Regarding contracts, that's business.

34 posted on 10/05/2012 2:47:11 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: marron

Your Congress levies taxes ~ so that’s bad too?


35 posted on 10/05/2012 2:48:07 PM PDT by muawiyah
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