Posted on 10/05/2012 4:14:04 PM PDT by DFG
Reports indicate U.S. soldiers and British Royal Marines have been urged to show "courageous constraint" by not shooting Taliban members spotted planting IEDs.
The reason? Shooting them might disturb the locals.
This news comes out on the heels of an investigation into the death of Royal Marine Sergeant Peter Rayner, whom witnesses say watched the Taliban plant IEDs at night but was ordered not to engage them. Families of other soldiers and Royal Marines are telling stories of how their loved ones were not allowed to use mortars or night illumination when they came across Taliban members in an area full of IEDs.
The reason given was that "the sound of shooting 'might wake up and upset the locals.'"
This is not "courageous restraint" -- this is appeasement.
(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...
This is not “courageous restraint” — this is INSANITY!
Maybe the soldiers should sing lullabies over loudspeakers during the night.
“When you put your hand, into a bunch of goo, that a moment before wass your best friends face...You’ll know what to do...”
Besides...Seems to me we own the night, and the faster the “locals” cough up the bad guys, the faster they’ll get their beauty rest...
I believe he'd say fire that bastard Dempsey.
I have a better idea. Every CO out there orders their chopper units to blast ride of the Valkyries over loud speakers during the hours of midnight, 4AM and a carpet bombing at 4PM during Mecca facing hours. Now that is how to fight a war.
Alexander the Great conquered the area of Afghanistan in the 300s BC.
I bet if he operated in the same way we are, he would never have made it out of Macedonia.
We can and should retreat to our own borders and let these nutballs kill each other off in the Middle East.
Forget lullabies, how ‘bout “Onward Christian Soldiers?” That’ll help everyone sleep. ;)
Yeah. Do they really think the local people will sleep well knowing that the Taliban is running around completely unchallenged?
What if our local police had that attitude? Nope, better not catch gangbangers at night. The locals are trying to sleep.
Somebody could do a cute cartoon of this, showing that the war hours are sun-up to sundown only, Mon.-Fri.
OK so we should build them girls schools, not shoot back when attacked, and not shoot at night cuz it’s noisy.
And the people telling us this are HEROIN DEALERS.
Just wow.
Sounds like another Obama ROE.
Issue suppressed MP5’s and carry on.
" U.S. military chiefs ordered troops to exercise 'courageous constraint' and even warned them they could be charged with murder if they shot any Taliban without permission from above."
What raghead lovin' bastard ordered this ?
That's aiding and abetting, IMO and is a treasonable offense
Remember: A tired Muslim is a crabby Muslim.
We can and should retreat to our own borders and let these nutballs kill each other off in the Middle East.
I went through a period of trying to eradicate the oockroaches, spiders, snakes, mice, vinegaroons, coyotes, wild dogs, wild cats, etc. around and in my house before I realized the futility and just left them alone.
Guess what? I now have less of those vermin.
This is how to deliberately lose wars and enable terrorists to win, prosper, and grow stronger and stronger, in furtherance of the next Islamic world-wide Caliphate. As such, this is a very clever, and effective, foreign policy.
This is also how to force many patriotic voters who favor letting our troops win their wars... into demanding their with-drawl instead (if our soldiers aren’t permitted to win, or even defend themselves anymore, then for goodness’ sakes what else can any decent human being say but “Bring them home?”). As such, this is a very clever domestic political strategy.
We need to give credit where credit is due, even though we may totally disagree with the direction America is being taken (down down down). Those in charge DO know what they are doing, and they are quite clever at it, too.
Vote in November!
Total outrage.
The administration makes the ROE’s.
Anyone thinks the Taliban hasn’t figured out they are getting a free hand at night.
ROE are classified, I doubt that this is in the ROE. That said, when I was a company commander in Vietnam, I saw a mother and her young child planting a booby trap (IED) around dusk. I had a sniper team with me and the ROE allowed me to engage. I couldn’t do it. I just couldn’t do it.
One small nuke would only make one bang.
They we could all sleep well.
Contact the federal highway folks here in the US and tell them that the traffic on the interstate is keeping you awake at night and you want that night traffic stopped. See what happens.
The bureaucratic jerks behind “courageous constraint” should be issued a weapon and sent in harms way to “courageously” defend freedom under their own absurd rules of engagement.
Gee, that’s funny. I’d think they’d sleep better knowing the Taliban won’t be able to coerce them or violate their human rights.
Enema of my enemy
If victory is truly optional, then you don’t have the right to risk the life of a single soldier. Get them out, and don’t send them back until you are committed to winning.
www.earplugstore.com/passive-shooting-ear-muffs.html
Let’s bring all our guys home, then nuke the place and let the Afghans sleep forever.
I was thinking they need more compound bows and silencers.
No, he would seek out and shoot the SOB!
No, this is criminal, or at least it should be! The civilian authorities who put these RoE in place should be criminally charged with "accessory to murder." Because that's exactly what will result. The murder of military personnel.
Mark
One word: Silencers
Just one time. One time I would like to see a FKing elected, serving politician out on the gun line weapon in hand, but I never have have and I don’t think anyone ever will. GRRRRRRRR.
My thoughts exactly . . . and more night-vision gear.
The actual honest reason this is occurring is due to the feminization of the West. That's being going on at least since the 1960s. It's only now reached critical mass. We may be correcting our "novelty act" presidential leadership in 2012. However the "culture rot" of feminization continues ! Note when I say feminization it does not imply that I disapprove of women in politics. Think Golda Meir, Margaret Thatcher, others (heck go back to Elizabeth the First! if you want !), these women did not practice a "feminized" foreign or military policy!
If this keeps up, the most powerful military in the world is going to be so demoralized they won’t be an effective fighting force for years to come.
Exactly as intended.
bttt
If we don’t teach the locals that there is a price for coddling the enemy, they will succumb to the threats of the enemy, and side with them.
Nothing in War College teaches you to ensure the enemy has a warm place to sleep or a neighborly environment to thrive in.
I can only hope a Romney administration will untie our troops’ hands and push for victory or just bring them all home.
Did you try adjusting your sights?
The reason? Shooting them might disturb the locals.
HORSESH?T!!!!!
“One word: Silencers”
Yep. On a .300 AAC Blackout upper, with 147gr subsonic rounds.
All on a 5.56 chassis - a simple changeout. Too easy.
OTOH, if the locals don’t like the “noise”, they should take care of the Tali-bunnys themselves. Joke ‘em...
crossbows....
Very funny, but it’s not a very funny business is it?
Oh sheesh, why bring up a real American when there are so few left in politics?
It only makes me realize what deep sh*t we are in.
No, it sucks big time; which is why I posted what I did.
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