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U.S. Soldiers Urged Not to Shoot Taliban at Night so Locals Can Sleep
Breitbart ^ | 10/05/12 | AWR Hawkins

Posted on 10/05/2012 4:14:04 PM PDT by DFG

Reports indicate U.S. soldiers and British Royal Marines have been urged to show "courageous constraint" by not shooting Taliban members spotted planting IEDs.

The reason? Shooting them might disturb the locals.

This news comes out on the heels of an investigation into the death of Royal Marine Sergeant Peter Rayner, whom witnesses say watched the Taliban plant IEDs at night but was ordered not to engage them. Families of other soldiers and Royal Marines are telling stories of how their loved ones were not allowed to use mortars or night illumination when they came across Taliban members in an area full of IEDs.

The reason given was that "the sound of shooting 'might wake up and upset the locals.'"

This is not "courageous restraint" -- this is appeasement.

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...


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1 posted on 10/05/2012 4:14:16 PM PDT by DFG
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To: DFG
I wonder what this guy would have to say about this policy.


2 posted on 10/05/2012 4:16:51 PM PDT by Signalman
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To: DFG

This is not “courageous restraint” — this is INSANITY!


3 posted on 10/05/2012 4:17:38 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: DFG

Maybe the soldiers should sing lullabies over loudspeakers during the night.


4 posted on 10/05/2012 4:18:21 PM PDT by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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To: Signalman; All

“When you put your hand, into a bunch of goo, that a moment before wass your best friends face...You’ll know what to do...”

Besides...Seems to me we own the night, and the faster the “locals” cough up the bad guys, the faster they’ll get their beauty rest...


5 posted on 10/05/2012 4:20:07 PM PDT by stevie_d_64 (It's not the color of one's skin that offends people...it's how thin it is.)
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To: Signalman
I wonder what this guy would have to say about this policy.

I believe he'd say fire that bastard Dempsey.

6 posted on 10/05/2012 4:21:14 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Intellect is not wisdom" -- Thomas Sowell)
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To: Jyotishi

I have a better idea. Every CO out there orders their chopper units to blast ride of the Valkyries over loud speakers during the hours of midnight, 4AM and a carpet bombing at 4PM during Mecca facing hours. Now that is how to fight a war.


7 posted on 10/05/2012 4:21:46 PM PDT by InsidiousMongo
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To: DFG

Alexander the Great conquered the area of Afghanistan in the 300s BC.

I bet if he operated in the same way we are, he would never have made it out of Macedonia.


8 posted on 10/05/2012 4:21:46 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: DFG
Okay, then SCREW the locals.

We can and should retreat to our own borders and let these nutballs kill each other off in the Middle East.

9 posted on 10/05/2012 4:25:19 PM PDT by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: Jyotishi

Forget lullabies, how ‘bout “Onward Christian Soldiers?” That’ll help everyone sleep. ;)


10 posted on 10/05/2012 4:26:09 PM PDT by madison10
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To: stevie_d_64

Yeah. Do they really think the local people will sleep well knowing that the Taliban is running around completely unchallenged?

What if our local police had that attitude? Nope, better not catch gangbangers at night. The locals are trying to sleep.

Somebody could do a cute cartoon of this, showing that the war hours are sun-up to sundown only, Mon.-Fri.


11 posted on 10/05/2012 4:27:05 PM PDT by married21 (As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: DFG

OK so we should build them girls schools, not shoot back when attacked, and not shoot at night cuz it’s noisy.

And the people telling us this are HEROIN DEALERS.

Just wow.


12 posted on 10/05/2012 4:27:36 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: DFG

Sounds like another Obama ROE.


13 posted on 10/05/2012 4:27:36 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: DFG

Issue suppressed MP5’s and carry on.


14 posted on 10/05/2012 4:27:58 PM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: stevie_d_64; All
I had to keep clicking to get;

" U.S. military chiefs ordered troops to exercise 'courageous constraint' and even warned them they could be charged with murder if they shot any Taliban without permission from above."


What raghead lovin' bastard ordered this ?

That's aiding and abetting, IMO and is a treasonable offense

15 posted on 10/05/2012 4:27:58 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: DFG

"Use a silencer."

16 posted on 10/05/2012 4:30:39 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: DFG

Remember: A tired Muslim is a crabby Muslim.


17 posted on 10/05/2012 4:32:55 PM PDT by mojito (Zero, our Nero.)
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To: DFG
Okay, then SCREW the locals.

We can and should retreat to our own borders and let these nutballs kill each other off in the Middle East.

I went through a period of trying to eradicate the oockroaches, spiders, snakes, mice, vinegaroons, coyotes, wild dogs, wild cats, etc. around and in my house before I realized the futility and just left them alone.

Guess what? I now have less of those vermin.

18 posted on 10/05/2012 4:34:01 PM PDT by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: DFG
Too loud, no problem:


19 posted on 10/05/2012 4:35:37 PM PDT by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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To: DFG

This is how to deliberately lose wars and enable terrorists to win, prosper, and grow stronger and stronger, in furtherance of the next Islamic world-wide Caliphate. As such, this is a very clever, and effective, foreign policy.

This is also how to force many patriotic voters who favor letting our troops win their wars... into demanding their with-drawl instead (if our soldiers aren’t permitted to win, or even defend themselves anymore, then for goodness’ sakes what else can any decent human being say but “Bring them home?”). As such, this is a very clever domestic political strategy.

We need to give credit where credit is due, even though we may totally disagree with the direction America is being taken (down down down). Those in charge DO know what they are doing, and they are quite clever at it, too.

Vote in November!


20 posted on 10/05/2012 4:40:22 PM PDT by faithhopecharity
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