Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

WTIC CBS Connecticut Poll - 7.8% Unemployment: Is This A True Reading Of The Jobs Picture?
WTIC CBS ^ | 10/5/12 | Anon

Posted on 10/05/2012 10:14:40 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom

LOL, even in ultra-liberal Connecticut they get it. I've NEVER EVER seen a more lopsided poll! Check this out:



TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Politics/Elections; US: Connecticut
KEYWORDS: obama; poll; whoopass
Maybe there's hope for Connecticotians, er Connecticutensians, er Nutmeggers yet.
1 posted on 10/05/2012 10:14:47 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: ProtectOurFreedom

Sad that a President is allowed to get away with this. Oh, that’s right, it’s that pesky ‘race card’ of his.. I forgot! Silly me..


2 posted on 10/05/2012 10:20:15 PM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ProtectOurFreedom

did it say how many had voted?


3 posted on 10/05/2012 10:22:39 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ProtectOurFreedom

Holy S*...I didn’t even freep this poll.


4 posted on 10/05/2012 10:23:25 PM PDT by digital-olive
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: GeronL

Nope. Given the nice rounded numbers right now, it could be 9,925 “Yes” and 75 “No” for an even 10,000 votes.


5 posted on 10/05/2012 10:27:55 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: ProtectOurFreedom
“I always say the truth is best even when we find it unpleasant. Any rat in a sewer can lie. It's how rats are. It's what makes them rats. But a human doesn't run and hide in dark places, because he's something more. Lying is the most personal act of cowardice there is.” ― Nancy Farmer, The House of the Scorpion
6 posted on 10/05/2012 10:36:59 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (Obama at the UN: The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ProtectOurFreedom

bump


7 posted on 10/05/2012 10:39:16 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: ProtectOurFreedom
From the BLS press release today

THE EMPLOYMENT SITUATION -- SEPTEMBER 2012

The unemployment rate decreased to 7.8 percent in September, and total nonfarm payroll employment rose by 114,000, the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics reported today. Employment increased in health care and in transportation and warehousing but changed little in most other major industries.

Household Survey Data

The unemployment rate declined by 0.3 percentage point to 7.8 percent in September. For the first 8 months of the year, the rate held within a narrow range of 8.1 and 8.3 percent. The number of unemployed persons, at 12.1 million, decreased by 456,000 in September. (See table A-1.)

8 posted on 10/05/2012 10:39:24 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: MNJohnnie
Yeah, it's disgusting.

The Underemployed number did not change (still 14.7%.) The number of new jobs was 114,000. It was predicted by economists to be 110-120,000. It was predicted by the BLS to be 115,000. And, since we need about 205,000 new jobs in order to move the needle by -0.1 everyone was saying, 115,000 jobs will keep us at 8.2, maybe even uptick slightly.

This story is almost as flimsy as a "spontaneous demonstration" resulting in the death of the Ambassador to Libya. Not even victims of the American public school system can possibly suffer from the degree of innumeracy required to swallow this line.

9 posted on 10/05/2012 10:50:52 PM PDT by FredZarguna (And that's the end of our show! Doink.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: ProtectOurFreedom
7.8% is a joke. Is more like 12% all across the board. Unless you are in Texas or North Dakota and some other red states.

The MSM and democrats want the USA to live in "their" Potemkin Village.

10 posted on 10/05/2012 10:57:33 PM PDT by dancusa (Re-electing Obama is like the Titanic backing up and ramming the iceburg again.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: MNJohnnie

Ok, these numbers don’t make sense.

456,000 less unemployed than previous month
114,000 got jobs (probably part-time, low wage jobs)

So, where did the other 342,000 or 2.8% of the nation’s unemployed go in one month?

I know.. I know... they’ve retired and are now living the good-life in Kokomo. What a crock of ******!


11 posted on 10/05/2012 11:18:45 PM PDT by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters of Freedom, Committee of Correspondence)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: ProtectOurFreedom; All

.69% There’s a recovery underway
99.31 Someone’s “Cooking The Books”

10/6 2:29 AM CDT


12 posted on 10/06/2012 12:32:42 AM PDT by KGeorge
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
Sad that a President is allowed to get away with this.

But they did not get away with it. Their "attempt" to get away with it just highlighted to one and all how CORRUPT and SLEAZY they are.

13 posted on 10/06/2012 1:15:54 AM PDT by MrDem (Founder: Democrats for Cheney/Palin 2012)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: ProtectOurFreedom; 2ndDivisionVet; A knight without armor; Alexander Rubin; all the best; ...
Pile on time! 99% no. You believe 7.8 % unemployment number?

FREEP THIS POLL ***PING!*** FRmail me if you want to be added or removed from the Fearless Poll-Freeping Freepers Ping list. And be sure to ping me to any polls that need Freepin', if I miss them. (looks like a medium volume list) (gordongekko909, founder of the pinglist, stays on the list until his ghost signs up for the list)

14 posted on 10/06/2012 2:40:49 AM PDT by dynachrome ("Our forefathers didn't bury their guns. They buried those that tried to take them.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ProtectOurFreedom

The dummies aren’t awake yet.


15 posted on 10/06/2012 2:49:20 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: GeronL

14


16 posted on 10/06/2012 2:49:48 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: dynachrome

What is amazing to me is that a news organization is even asking whether the books are cooked. When the MSM starts to allow the premise that the One can be questioned, that’s progress folks!


17 posted on 10/06/2012 3:11:44 AM PDT by BelleAl (Proud to be a member of the party of NO! NO more deficit spending and government control!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: ProtectOurFreedom

CT, like NJ, has a lot of people that lost financial jobs in NYC. The high-tax states in the northeast have been hit hard as salaries have adjusted to “the new normal” ($.60 on the dollar) while our tax burdens haven’t.

I expect Obama to spend some time & money here; it is really bad.


18 posted on 10/06/2012 3:27:12 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ProtectOurFreedom

The only way unemployment dropped to 7.8% is if the number of discouraged job seekers went way up. Why isn’t anyone reporting that?


19 posted on 10/06/2012 3:52:25 AM PDT by Delhi Rebels (There was a row in Silver Street - the regiments was out.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ProtectOurFreedom

I freeped the poll. I wonder why the really high % of people who don’t believe it. (simply because there are Libs who will believe anything). The only thought I can come up with is unemployment has touched everyone. Everyone knows people (or themselves) who can’t find a job. I know more people right now who keep looking and looking and looking. Thanks for posting POF!


20 posted on 10/06/2012 4:56:59 AM PDT by momtothree
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ProtectOurFreedom

Yes. There’s A Recovery Underway 0.67%

No. Someone’s “Cooking The Books” 99.33%


21 posted on 10/06/2012 5:00:43 AM PDT by WVKayaker (I'm more than happy to be Obama's "enemy of the week" - Sarah Palin)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ProtectOurFreedom

FReeped...but just WOW!


22 posted on 10/06/2012 5:10:54 AM PDT by left that other site (Worry is the Darkroom that Develops Negatives.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Delhi Rebels

Employment participation rate is also a good true measure of real employment.

I believe the “discouraged job seekers” are the ones whose unemployment insurance has run out and have been dropped from the unemployment count. So, yes, they could be considered discouraged.


23 posted on 10/06/2012 5:12:40 AM PDT by Justa
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]

To: ProtectOurFreedom

Under the poll it says that 14 have voted.


24 posted on 10/06/2012 5:48:31 AM PDT by Ditter
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Ditter

Now it says 14 comments.


25 posted on 10/06/2012 5:50:39 AM PDT by Ditter
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | View Replies]

To: kearnyirish2
CT, like NJ, has a lot of people that lost financial jobs in NYC. The high-tax states in the northeast have been hit hard as salaries have adjusted to “the new normal” ($.60 on the dollar) while our tax burdens haven’t.

yet the left still owns the northeast.

26 posted on 10/06/2012 6:19:14 AM PDT by alrea
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: ProtectOurFreedom

Thank you for voting!
Yes. There’s A Recovery Underway 0.75%

No. Someone’s “Cooking The Books” 99.25%

The “growth” industry in Benderville is men mowing lawns while collecting disability payments


27 posted on 10/06/2012 6:32:48 AM PDT by tubebender (Evening news is where they begin with "Good Evening," and then proceed to tell you why it isn't.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: MrDem

No, I mean there should be a Congressional investigation. 0bama undermines the integrity of his office with his lies. Hell, Congress might as well open an ‘Investigation of President 0bama’s Impeachable Acts’ office while they’re at it.


28 posted on 10/06/2012 6:38:21 AM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: FredZarguna

Aren’t the numbers “revised” later, mid-month? I know it is wishful thinking in the face of a probable cooking the books, but maybe that household number was truly an abberation and the numbers could be revised to 7.9 or 8.0 when that is done. No?


29 posted on 10/06/2012 6:39:38 AM PDT by MrChips (MrChips)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: dynachrome

Yes. There’s A Recovery Underway 0.74%

No. Someone’s “Cooking The Books” 99.26%


30 posted on 10/06/2012 7:12:20 AM PDT by toldyou (Even if the voices aren't real, they have some pretty good ideas.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: Ditter

No, that is the number of comments. Few people leave a comment on polls.


31 posted on 10/06/2012 7:41:16 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | View Replies]

To: ProtectOurFreedom

Multiple votes allowed. Gonna have to vote like a Philly democrat on this poll...


32 posted on 10/06/2012 7:43:30 AM PDT by NELSON111
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ProtectOurFreedom
Saturday 10/6, 10:39 AM Eastern.
Yes. There's A Recovery Underway 0.74%
No. Someone's "Cooking The Books" 99.26%

33 posted on 10/06/2012 7:47:47 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ProtectOurFreedom
This is impossible without lying through "cooking the books".


34 posted on 10/06/2012 8:04:48 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta (christian.bahits.com)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ProtectOurFreedom

http://connecticut.cbslocal.com/2012/10/02/new-hampshire-resident-obama-couldnt-run-a-lemonade-stand/

The results are the same.


35 posted on 10/06/2012 8:09:29 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (We are the 53%, who pay taxes and keep this country going inspite of the 47% rat moochers!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Grampa Dave
Ha. ..easier to teach goats to surf than for Obama to understand how a lemonade stand works.

Goats surfing:


36 posted on 10/06/2012 8:22:40 AM PDT by spokeshave (The only people better off today than 4 years ago are the Prisoners at Guantanamo.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 35 | View Replies]

To: ProtectOurFreedom

Thank you for voting!

Yes. There’s A Recovery Underway 0.75%

No. Someone’s “Cooking The Books” 99.25%


37 posted on 10/06/2012 8:30:21 AM PDT by 2111USMC (aim small, miss small)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ProtectOurFreedom
Yes. There's A Recovery Underway 0.75%
No. Someone's "Cooking The Books" 99.25%
38 posted on 10/06/2012 8:44:09 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ProtectOurFreedom
Here's an example - right here in CT - of how the numbers are cooked.

Last night, I glanced at the local paper touting the “STEP-Up job training program” in CT. It seems $30 million of our tax dollars have enabled 297 businesses to hire 699 employees statewide. That’s $42K per. For a year. What then? No skin off the employer’s nose - they get a headcount for nothing while the money lasts. But this sure doesn’t sound like “employment” in the strict sense - although it sure does add to Obummer’s employment figures... What a racket.

39 posted on 10/06/2012 8:49:14 AM PDT by Ol' Sox
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: spokeshave
You are just being racist by showing and comparing white goats to our dear Obozo.

Ha. ..easier to teach goats to surf than for Obama to understand how a lemonade stand works.

Goats surfing:

40 posted on 10/06/2012 8:57:45 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (We are the 53%, who pay taxes and keep this country going inspite of the 47% rat moochers!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 36 | View Replies]

To: spokeshave
You are just being racist by showing and comparing white goats to our dear Obozo.

Ha. ..easier to teach goats to surf than for Obama to understand how a lemonade stand works.

Goats surfing:

41 posted on 10/06/2012 8:58:14 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (We are the 53%, who pay taxes and keep this country going inspite of the 47% rat moochers!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 36 | View Replies]

To: Ol' Sox

Seeing old WTIC brought back memories! Seventy years ago we’d listen to the G.Fox Morning Watch while getting ready for school. When the Connecticut March was played at 8 it was the signal to walk down to the bottom of the hill for the school bus! Back then I was the only child whose parents voted for FDR—they were all Wilkie supporters. He was a very scary man to me.

A friend just told me last Sunday—with great disdain in her voice—that the Hartford Courant is now owned by Fox News! I made no comment (with great restraint)! The Oldest Newspaper in the United States was left-wing as long as I can remember. Must say it warmed my heart!


42 posted on 10/06/2012 9:03:28 AM PDT by GoldwaterChick
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 39 | View Replies]

To: ProtectOurFreedom

Just did the poll and it is still a friggin wipeout!


43 posted on 10/06/2012 9:24:32 AM PDT by US_MilitaryRules (Unnngh! To many PDS people!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ProtectOurFreedom

When I first looked it said 14 votes then it changed to 14 comments. Someone screw up and then fixed it.


44 posted on 10/06/2012 9:36:01 AM PDT by Ditter
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 31 | View Replies]

To: ProtectOurFreedom

99.25

LOL


45 posted on 10/06/2012 10:07:43 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ProtectOurFreedom

FEeeEEeePED:

HA!! Numbers are still holding strong!!

What happened to all that ‘hope’ and ‘change’ that was promised?

Yes. There’s A Recovery Underway 0.73%

No. Someone’s “Cooking The Books” 99.27%


46 posted on 10/06/2012 11:29:59 AM PDT by Bon of Babble (The Road to Ruin is Always Kept in Good Repair)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: MrChips
Well ... yes, but ... The error in the Household Survey numbers necessary to produce this result is way outside the statistical expectation for a 95% confidence interval. I haven't calculated it myself, and I could only get a rough idea of how large the error bars would have to be to include a result this crazy. Another FReeper claims the survey found almost 900,000 new jobs (actually that's public information) and estimated the error is +/-435,000. Inasmuch as -410,000 would increase the unemployment back to 8% you get closer, but you're really still off the actual number by 0.2%. In other words, almost all of the 900,000 has to be wrong, which is statistically about as close to impossible as you and me both being killed by meteors before I finish typing this sentence.

Still here, so ...

The big question is: why does the huge spike occur in the 20-24 age group? This is weird because the 0bama administration has already been getting an enormous fig-leaf from Baby Boomers who're leaving the workforce a few months or years early, but an increase in the 20-24 age group has a VERY HIGH stank-factor.

My suspicion is that they've changed the way they asked the question so that students looking for part-time work for the summer who have reported back to school are being dropped from the rolls -- and since temporary workers wouldn't have been ON the rolls in the first place ... Viola! 900,000 people who previously weren't really looking for work (and weren't counted) are now magically counted as not looking for work anymore.

All anybody needs to know about this is that we've had net jobs numbers in the mid to low 100,000's for several months, and there has been no real change to unemployment during those months. Suddenly, 114,000 new jobs takes the rate down by 0.3-0.4%! AND ... even more suspiciously, the UNDEREMPLOYMENT number has not moved -- it's still 14.7%. How is it even possible that we found almost 900,000 new jobs, but NONE of the people who want more work than they currently have were able to get more hours or more permanent positions?

It's a story that only someone credulous (read: gullible) enough to believe the original excuse for the Benghazi murders could possibly believe.

47 posted on 10/06/2012 3:06:56 PM PDT by FredZarguna (And that's the end of our show! Doink.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 29 | View Replies]

To: alrea

Chris Christie, and the people who elected him, would disagree; when things get this bad, libs elect grown-ups to fix them.


48 posted on 10/06/2012 3:07:47 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 26 | View Replies]

To: ProtectOurFreedom
Headlines of the Article...

New Hampshire Resident: ‘Obama Couldn’t Run A Lemonade Stand’

49 posted on 10/06/2012 3:16:16 PM PDT by newfreep (Breitbart sent me...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson