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Millions of British households face blackout, energy watchdog has said
Telegraph - UK ^ | October 5, 2012 | Rowena Mason,

Posted on 10/06/2012 12:01:20 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

In its strongest ever warning, Ofgem said there may have to be “controlled disconnections” of homes and businesses in the middle of this decade because Britain has not done enough to make sure it has enough electricity.

The regulator's new analysis reveals the risk of power-cuts is almost 50 per cent in 2015 if a very cold winter causes high demand for electricity.

It predicts Britain will face power shortages because old coal and oil plants are being forced to shut down under the European Union’s environmental regulations. This will partly be replaced by wind farms, but they are less reliable and can only generate electricity in the right weather conditions.

Ofgem believes the lack of spare power generation “could lead to higher bills”, which are already at record high of £1,300 per year.

The report will be a blow to Ed Davey, the new Energy Secretary as sweeping reforms in the new Energy Bill will come too late to avoid the squeeze in 2015–the year of the next election.

Whitehall sources said there is very little the Government can now do to avoid the risk of black-outs in the middle of the decade.

It will take around three or four years to build any new gas plants and it would be very difficult to build more coal plants under European rules.

“It may be that we will sail through the danger period without any problems,” the source said. “But if things do start to go wrong, we may be in trouble.”

Alistair Buchanan, chief executive of Ofgem,said Britain's energy system is struggling under the pressure of the “unprecedented challenges” of a global financial crisis, tough environmental targets and the closure of ageing power stations.....

....."industrial demand will be disconnected first, then household demand if the former is not sufficient".....

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: alistairbuchanan; blackouts; climatechange; delingpole; economy; eddavey; energy; energyinsanity; energypolicy; environmentalists; euregulations; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; green; greenreligion; lifehate; ofgem; peoplehate; preparedness; preppers; prepping; thedestroyers; ukenergy; unitedkingdom
James Delingpole: How Dave can still lead the 'greenest government ever' and save his party, the economy and rural Britain ".......When you live in a city – as I did till recently – you simply have no idea how much heartbreak and anxiety and fear the wind farm scam is generating across rural Britain. Country people feel helpless and appalled and betrayed at the way all their valid objections – to noise, to the ecological damage, to the visual blight, to the destruction of the landscape – are simply being overruled by council planning officers. And it's not really the planning officers' fault: a) they're just following directives from the government that the drive for renewable energy must be allowed to override all objections and b) councils are being bankrupted by the cost of having to deal with planning appeals funded by enormous wind companies with bottomless pockets. The whole planning process is rigged in favour of the wind developers. It is also quite hideously corrupt. For example, the environmental impact assessments, noise assessments and ecological assessments are carried out by "experts" paid for by the wind farm companies. Naturally, these experts are inclined to play down any issues that might get in the way of a successful planning application: who pays the piper calls the tune.

The wind industry, in short, is currently the single greatest threat to rural Britain. It's corrupt, greedy, ruthless, cynical, mendacious and hideously unjust. And the reason it's currently getting away with murder is that Coalition policy is allowing it to get away with murder. This has to change and it CAN be changed. So herewith some advice to David Cameron......."

1 posted on 10/06/2012 12:01:26 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

this is malfeasance in office and justification to sack the entire government. seriously this will kill a lot of people because of government ineptness.


2 posted on 10/06/2012 12:06:30 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: All
Too Much
3 posted on 10/06/2012 12:11:42 AM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: Secret Agent Man

I wonder to what extent they use compact fluorescent bulbs and Energy Star appliances?


4 posted on 10/06/2012 12:12:53 AM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: Secret Agent Man

Power revolutionized industry and living standards - the combustion engine, lighted factories, sewing machines, tractors to harvest (more land could be planted) - our national security (military) runs on energy....on and on..

The green Nazis are de-developing human advancement.


5 posted on 10/06/2012 12:13:32 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

They themselves are de-evolved beings, like the Morlocks in the first version of The Time Machine..


6 posted on 10/06/2012 12:34:39 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

They themselves are de-evolved beings, like the Morlocks in the first version of The Time Machine..


7 posted on 10/06/2012 12:34:39 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

They themselves are de-evolved beings, like the Morlocks in the first version of The Time Machine..


8 posted on 10/06/2012 12:34:48 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

They themselves are de-evolved beings, like the Morlocks in the first version of The Time Machine..


9 posted on 10/06/2012 12:34:54 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

They themselves are de-evolved beings, like the Morlocks in the first version of The Time Machine..


10 posted on 10/06/2012 12:34:54 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: Secret Agent Man; Cincinatus' Wife
this is malfeasance in office and justification to sack the entire government. seriously this will kill a lot of people because of government ineptness.

The US is not far behind Britain in this respect. We may even be ahead.

The EPA is forcing the power industry to close many old coal fired electric plants.

These old plants were used for extra power during peak demand periods. But these old plants are small and inefficient compared to modern plants and so it is not cost effective to retrofit them with pollution controls to meet new pollution regulations.

So the US is just a heat wave away from rolling black outs. The EPA uses fear mongering about air pollution killing people all based on unsubstantiated statistical analysis. Well there is nothing theoretical about heat waves killing people with out air conditioning. Some one stuck in their home during a blackout with out the AC may die.

Also scarcity of a commodity makes the price go up. The unavailability of these older plants means they are not available to generate power when needed for their owners. This means their owners must buy replacement power at market rates when the rates are highest. This means power may be priced out of the ability of some consumers to pay. That means some people will not run their AC when they need it and some of those people will die.

11 posted on 10/06/2012 12:53:22 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

This is what ObamaMugabe wants for us...He envies what the EU and UK greenies have pulled off


12 posted on 10/06/2012 1:05:52 AM PDT by dennisw (Government be yo mamma - Re-elect Barack Obama)
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To: dennisw; All
Obama/EPA/DOE/NASA fund [as Romney noted] the losers:

Panel installer SolarCity files for $200 mln IPO [Elon Musk of Tesla Elec cars]

13 posted on 10/06/2012 1:11:27 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Pontiac

Bump! to Post #13.


14 posted on 10/06/2012 1:14:02 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Secret Agent Man

I’ve been to England on several occasions. If you travel around in the fall or winter...what you tend to find is that the hotel/motel rooms are unheated until you check into the room...so it take an hour or two after you walk into the room for it to be “warm”. I doubt if it ever gets above 70 degrees, and most likely sits near 65 degrees for most of the time.

You tend to notice everyone is dressed in sweaters and wool. Most pubs are heated to the bare minimum. I think because of the enormous cost already for electricity or heat...they’ve done just about everything to just get by.

The British are a hearty people and probably could scrap by for a couple of days where power was only twelve hours a day, but they’d likely blame it on some political party in the end.


15 posted on 10/06/2012 1:39:58 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: SunkenCiv; Tolerance Sucks Rocks; steelyourfaith

Windmills of your mind ping.


16 posted on 10/06/2012 1:57:05 AM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Love me, love my guns!©)
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To: Pontiac

It is over 33,000 MW of plant closures.

Some of the plants being closed run into several hundred megawatts per unit being shut down.

Some are natural gas fired, rather than coal.

http://www.instituteforenergyresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Update-of-Power-Plants-to-be-Closed-by-EPA-Regs-Feb-7.pdf

http://www.instituteforenergyresearch.org/2012/02/07/impact-of-epas-regulatory-assault-on-power-plants-february-7-update/


17 posted on 10/06/2012 2:07:33 AM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Love me, love my guns!©)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Drove through Canada recently and there are wind turbines everywhere. What an absolute blight on the landscape.


18 posted on 10/06/2012 2:13:20 AM PDT by HarleyD
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To: gleeaikin

...and toilets that splash, clog, and don’t move enough water through pipes so that sewers back up; washing machines that leave clothes beat up and still smelly; dishwashers that take 3 hours to run a cycle so that people end up washing more dishes by hand; detergents that don’t clean; and engines ruined by ethanol that pollutes more than gasoline.

Unless these whackos are stopped, we will all be living the caveman lifestyle - short, dirty, and cold.


19 posted on 10/06/2012 2:51:32 AM PDT by Pining_4_TX ( The state is the great fiction by which everybody seeks to live at the expense of everybody else. ~)
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To: Pontiac
These old plants were used for extra power during peak demand periods. But these old plants are small and inefficient compared to modern plants and so it is not cost effective to retrofit them with pollution controls to meet new pollution regulations.

Sorry, but these plants could not have been used only during peak demand periods. Boiled water plants, all external combustion plants are boiled water, take a minimum of three days for the smallest plants to five to seven days for the largest to get linked up to the grid and producing power. This start-up delay is why coal is almost solely used for base load generation. Peaking for peak demand is generally supplied by gas turbines and hydro, due to their rapid start-up (under 24 hours) and quick response.

20 posted on 10/06/2012 4:19:47 AM PDT by Fraxinus (My opinion, worth what you paid.)
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Thanks AGR.


21 posted on 10/06/2012 4:54:21 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Its coming to America unless obama loses.

I have seen this and have a standby generator installed as I no longer trust any govt agency.


22 posted on 10/06/2012 4:54:48 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Read SCOTUS Castle Rock vs Gonzales before dialing 911!)
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To: Secret Agent Man
this is malfeasance in office and justification to sack the entire government. seriously this will kill a lot of people because of government ineptness.

Add the government "healthcare" to the mix and you might see a trend in what happens when the government runs "businesses". I was glad to hear Romney speak what had been reserved for Conservative pundits: The government doesn't run anything as cheaply or efficiently as the Private Sector...

23 posted on 10/06/2012 5:11:04 AM PDT by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: trebb
The government doesn't run anything as cheaply or efficiently as the Private Sector..

Just in case you thought otherwise, perhaps it should be made clear that government doesn't run power generation in Britain...hasn't done since Thatcher privatised the industry in the 1980s.

24 posted on 10/06/2012 8:33:48 AM PDT by Winniesboy
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To: Fraxinus
Boiled water plants, all external combustion plants are boiled water, take a minimum of three days for the smallest plants to five to seven days for the largest to get linked up to the grid and producing power.

I guess you have never heard of spinning reserve.

If hot weather is forecast these plants are started up and kept running at low power, perhaps not even on the grid, in case they are needed.

25 posted on 10/06/2012 2:15:36 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; Kartographer; blam

British winter preppers ping.


26 posted on 10/06/2012 2:50:48 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Obama should change his campaign slogan to "Yes, we am!" Sounds as stupid as his administration is.)
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27 posted on 10/06/2012 6:06:56 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Obama should change his campaign slogan to "Yes, we am!" Sounds as stupid as his administration is.)
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To: pepsionice

I lived in England for a while, I was cold the whole time I was there.


28 posted on 10/06/2012 6:25:32 PM PDT by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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To: Pining_4_TX

I’d like to see the whackjob-econuts tied to their windmill blades. Let them ride around and around for a day or two.....might joggle some sense into their brains.


29 posted on 10/06/2012 6:29:39 PM PDT by JPG (Make it happen)
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To: JPG

sounds good to me. Have you seen the youtube videos of what happens when those things burn out and explode? And the eco-nuts are worried about pipelines!

Then, of course, there are the thousands of birds the turbines kill every year. Don’t even get me started again on what the EPA and the lefties are doing to our standard of living!


30 posted on 10/06/2012 9:28:09 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX ( The state is the great fiction by which everybody seeks to live at the expense of everybody else. ~)
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To: Winniesboy
Just in case you thought otherwise, perhaps it should be made clear that government doesn't run power generation in Britain...hasn't done since Thatcher privatised the industry in the 1980s.

I didn't realize that she had done that and assumed that it was still similar to the days when many had to feed a box coins to get a period of electricity. Thanks for clarifying.

31 posted on 10/07/2012 2:02:55 AM PDT by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The idiocy of leftist policies is finally coming home to roost.


32 posted on 10/07/2012 3:08:11 AM PDT by Rocky (Obama is pure evil.)
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To: trebb

Less-well off people can still choose to have electricity “on the meter”, that still exists, but it’s a financial choice, rather than an imposition


33 posted on 10/07/2012 6:49:16 AM PDT by Mitch86
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To: Pontiac
So the US is just a heat wave away from rolling black outs.

It's true that electric power use peaks in the summer because of A/C, but the winter load is increasing. A major cold wave like we had in the DC area in early 1994 will cause a large number of heat exchangers to switch to resistive heating and the increased demand could cause blackouts with catastrophic results. In my apartment building in 1994 there were dozens of units that froze and then flooded simply because the heaters could not keep up.

34 posted on 10/07/2012 9:14:46 AM PDT by palmer (Jim, please bill me 50 cents for this completely useless post)
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