Posted on 10/06/2012 5:44:52 AM PDT by CharlesThe Hammer
You do not address the crux of the matter:
1. Where is the official description of the club?
answer- non existent
2. Conservative students in the “generic” Conservative club, such as it is, seek affiliation with like-minded students.
The “Communiversity” advisor dismisses their request. The mere term “communiversity” implies that their concerns about Marxism may have legitimate basis. The denial of free association is counter to American principles. The students are not “trashing” higher education by merely seeking to align with “like-minded” students in YAF as you allege. The school, as arbitrarily and capriciously represented by a single club advisor, is not “trashed” by conservative students wishing to more specifically define themselves. Such a decision is “understandable” only to one embracing the arbitrary and capricious nature of autocracy.
Start the club off campus. The school has NO CONSTITUTIONAL right to deny the right of free association.
The school said no official affiliation with YAF because of this: Are you tired of liberal ideas dominating your campus? Are you tired of liberal and Marxist professors indoctrinating your classmates? Do you want to advance conservatism?
From the schools website:
Service Clubs (many this is just one)
APU Young Conservatives
So the conservative club wants to officially align themselves with the YAF, the school said no, because the YAF trashes higher education.
It’s understandable.
Yes, there is a fully functional recognized conservative club on campus.
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They (APU) lists a conservative club on their website.
The article states there is a conservative club on campus.
The school explained why they do not want this fully functional conservative club affiliated with YAF.
If you do not like my answer I am sorry, that's what the article says and what the school says about the issue.
If you do not like their (APU) response, take it up with them.
“...take it up with them.”
Since that is the whole point of this post, it’s interesting that you finally apprehend it. This formally conservative school is falling to creeping socialism. A school official supervising the aptly named “communiversity” denies affiliation because he objects to being labeled as “leftist”, “liberal”, or “Marxist.” Since he “doth protest too much” it suggests the students may have a valid claim. The purpose here is to get Freepers, alumni, donors, parents, and students to reevaluate APU’s claims as a bona fide conservative institution.
The APU community is more conservative than 99% of US institutions of higher education. The fact that they denied YAF on religious grounds does not make them liberal. This issue has been construed as conservative vs liberal because YAF thinks every issue is about the persecution perceived by conservatives. Why doesn’t anyone discuss the real issue? A secular organization is trying to infiltrate a religious institution and the religious institution is asserting its Constitutional and federally guaranteed right to determine its official affiliations based upon how it wants to practice its faith. The organization that has proven it is not bona fide conservative is YAF — they say they defend the Constitution. But as soon as someone says no to YAF, the Constitutional protection of religious organizations goes out the window. YAF is attacking a sincere, conservative community of faith that puts its faith above politics of any kind. YAF can’t wrap their head around that because their politics are their religion. APU has a deeper mission than that.
As a non-governmental institution, the school (however misguided) may impose whatever restrictions it wants on students without regard to what the state or federal Constitutions might permit of a public college.
see post #19.
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