Skip to comments.A View from Mormon Land
Posted on 10/06/2012 5:48:37 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
Presidential candidate Mitt Romney is a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints -- the Mormons. Not being Mormon but having lived most of my 53 years in Utah, the seat of the religion, I would like to offer a perspective on having a Mormon as President of the United States.
This question takes on a greater sense of importance with recent reports that the de facto American political truce against attacks on a candidate's religion has been breached by means of a telephone campaign slandering Romney's Mormonism.
I grew up in rural Utah, in a town that was (and is) about 80% Mormon. I went to college in another rural Utah town, somewhat more cosmopolitan because of the university, but the non-student population was still about 80% Mormon. After two post-college years in Massachusetts, I returned to the Salt Lake City valley, which is now around 52% Mormon.
While working as the CEO of the company I co-founded upon returning to Utah, I have hired many people, Mormon and non-Mormon, and have had both working at all levels of the company. Given a lifelong exposure to and interaction with members of "The Church," I have one very solid observation to make: Mormons are no different from non-Mormons...............
We have now suffered through nearly four years of an utterly incompetent, Islamophilic president desecrating and destroying much of what most of us hold dear about this country. Though as a libertarian I do not fully agree with Mitt Romney's politics, the thought of having him as a Mormon president of the United States is a very comforting one indeed.
(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...
Look - Mormons are a bizarre branch offshoot what most would call Christianity (they barely qualify, if at all).
But thinking that Jesus is Satan’s brother and He trod Mesoamerica or wearing funny writing on underwear doesn’t mean anything to how a President governs.
The Mormons espouse from birth great family values, most of which are consistent with Conservative values.
We need the POTUS to embrace hard work, independence, low taxes, limited government and support of Israel. After that, it is between him and his perception of God.
The current potus believes in none of that and his muslim leanings are attempting to back-channel the 4th Reich in the destruction of Jews everywhere. That is but one example the difference between a personal belief and a destructive ideology.
(courtesy ping to Colofornian, who always has interest in LDS).
mormonISM is not a bizarre branch off shoot of Christianity, there is nothing in Christianity to offshoot that would lead to mormonism, mormonism is made up out of the mind of a shyster.
Hopefully you did read the article, as some of your “points” are made there as well, so worth the short read.
I think Mr. Elwell speaks loudly and clearly for most of us having grown up in the culture of Mormonism. Rather than fight the dogma I personally "dropped out". We left Utah in 1967 to seek our fortune "in the world and OF the world", returning in 1998 to form a non profit foundation for the historic preservation of an important American artist's home.
While we appreciate our good neighbors and friends in small town Utah, we remain apart on religious matters. We do though agree with Elwell and our neighbors regarding Romney.
Good article, and this line explains Harry Reid. I too have known a few Mormons, and from my experience I have never been able to quite come to grips with Harry Reid being a Mormon. I try to visualize Harry and Mitt meeting at a church function or going on a counseling mission together and Mitt seems more like the Mormons I have known than Harry Reid does. Harry Reid has recently said that Mitt Romney has "sullied" the LDS faith and that Mitt is "not the face of Mormonism". It seems just the opposite to me, and Harry himself fits that description better than Mitt Romney does.
That’s because, first, foremost and always, the socialist ideology trumps everything else [no matter your gender, race, religion, age, infirmity, sexual orientation, etc, etc of the progressive superstructure].
I was born and raised a Catholic. I’ve thought for a long time that if I was 25 years old again that I would much rather be on a deserted island with a bunch of co-eds from BYU than a bunch of sluts from Georgetown.
>>mormonISM is not a bizarre branch off shoot of Christianity, there is nothing in Christianity to offshoot that would lead to mormonism, mormonism is made up out of the mind of a shyster.<<
Agreed — I was sort of dancing here. LDS is closer to scientology than Christianity.
My point is it doesn’t matter to how Romney will run the country. From that perspective LDS is probably a tiny bit better than scientology.
Well, I wouldn’t say, as the author of this piece did, that having Romney was “comforting,” but I’m going to vote for him because
1) he is the lesser of the two evils (which is usually the choice we have when voting for candidates), and
2) he would be the better of the two candidates in order to have the “best moral soil on which the freedom to believe and disbelieve can actually function,” (Ravi Zacharias quote), and thus, hopefully, have a Christian voice.
I also believe in the sovereignty of God and that America is in great peril, resulting from her turning away from God and His only revealed Way unto salvation from our sins, our lawless ways and deeds, which we continue to not only do, but justify doing.
The Bible says we are headed for judgment. Just as with His people Israel and Judah so long ago, there comes a point when there is “no remedy” for sin.
I do not see the solution to our problems as political or economic or even social, the solution is to individually turn from our wicked ways and believe (trust) in God’s provision of His only begotten Son, the Redeemer, the Lord Jesus Christ, the Messiah of Israel, for the forgiveness of our sins.
He only is the Way, the Truth, and the Life.
In the interest of full disclosure and accuracy, can you post pics of those groups? Just so we can evaluate your opinion...
i guess it's no fluke
This brought a chuckle. Does this mean he learned how to waive a white flag?
Well, if R can run America as well as Utah apparently is, I don’t care if he is a Mormon.
I live in AZ and make frequent trips to UT and at present am up in Salt Lake City. EVERYWHERE I go there is building going on and the depression (small “d”) does seem as evident here as it is elsewhere. Going out for dinner, the places and parking lots are always crowded. It’s a marvel to me to see this kind of prosperity when compared to what I see in Nevada and read about conditions elsewhere.
Not a Mormon and don’t believe a lot of their stuff - (especially resent the clannishness, having lived among ‘em these past 15 years) but still don’t hold his religion against him.
It comes to mind as to how far the Democratic Party has fallen. There was some concern when a Catholic president was elected (JFK) and everyone thought he’d favor his religion while in power. He didn’t, and heard complaints from that sector. Fast forward today and we have this closet Muslim doing all he can to help his boys. I don’t think that will happen with R, although no doubt, the pressure will be applied.
“Agreed I was sort of dancing here. LDS is closer to scientology than Christianity.”
I fully agree with that statement and have held that position for some time. Joseph Smith was the 19th Century’s flim-flam man just as L. Ron Hubbard is the 20th Century’s. Both are false, both “evil” because they knew they were peddling snakeoil.
Personnally, I am trying to avoid bashing Mr. Romney over his Mormonism. I know it WILL affect how he governs...as Mr. Obama’s beliefs (whatever they may be today) affect him.
I am not voting for either man. However, I must admit I am starting to admire Mitt Romney as being a very clever politician (in the best sense) since he diced and sliced Mr. Obama in the debate....it was a thing of beauty. So, I am sort of “for” Mr. Romney (base SOLELY on a good debate), but I cannot bring myself to vote for him. Should he win, I cannot take credit for it and any good he MAY produce....but I cannot take blame for any ill he MAY also produce.
IF he wins, then I hope conservatives can keep his “Mormonism” in check (and not so latent liberal tendencies). Of course, it is impossible to keep Mr. Obama in check....he is too wishy washy.
“I was born and raised a Catholic. Ive thought for a long time that if I was 25 years old again that I would much rather be on a deserted island with a bunch of co-eds from BYU than a bunch of sluts from Georgetown.”
Where on a desert island could one find anything large enough to boil a Georgetown slut in? After all, there are certainly no arm length rubber glove vendors on desert islands, are there?
I just HATE when stuff like that happens!
Of course; MORMONism might have changed it's mind since then.
If it has; I'm quite sure that our resident MORMONs on FR will let us know.
Either posting the evidence itself or at least some links to it.
When faced with the preponderence of evidence that MORMONism is rife with false teachings about Christianity and still clinging to it; tells ME something about discernment.
Harry says that MORMONism made HIM a DEMOCRAT!
Class; for extra points; do some research and find out just where his SONS have served a mission.
It SOUNDED right when you typed it; and, by golly, it is SPELLED right; but did you mean WAVE?
Yup, you caught me.
I was hoping for some sly observation of The One!
[ Agreed I was sort of dancing here. LDS is closer to scientology than Christianity. ]
If the president is breifed on aliens in Area 51 once they get sworn in, I would think a Mormon would be more likely to disclose that fact to the american people than a socialist pile of crap control freak like Obaaaaaaaa-maaaaaa..
[ My point is it doesnt matter to how Romney will run the country. From that perspective LDS is probably a tiny bit better than scientology. ]
It is a LOT easier to leave Mormonism than it is to leave Scientology, I have heard some horror stories about people leaving the Cult.... I mean “Church” of Scientology.
I have known a few “Lapsed Mormons” who just drift away from it with no people in bikes visiting them at all odd hours of the night demanding they bring jell-o and fruit salad to the temple on sunday.....