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Mitt Romney: Born Again
Townhall.com ^ | October 6, 2012 | Steve Deace

Posted on 10/06/2012 6:51:03 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: muawiyah
again, I'm not talking about kow-towing with them. I'm talking about turning the tables on them. They prevent the saving of the majority (99.5%) of babies with their arguments of mother's health and death.

I'm saying cut the legs under them so we can ban all abortions --- first start by saying ok, concessions for the murders they talk about. THEN, we instantly save 656,000 babies in that year itself

If we don't fight the battle in parts we lose all the babies permanently.

41 posted on 10/07/2012 11:26:01 AM PDT by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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They win their argument only because they have our own guns on their side. I have suggested that we turn the tables on them by simply prohibiting the expenditure of public funds to protect them.

Truly privatize the behavior ~ de-interpose the state in any aspect of it.

42 posted on 10/07/2012 11:30:44 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
" I have suggested that we turn the tables on them by simply prohibiting the expenditure of public funds to protect them." --> if you mean that abortion and contraception shouldn't be on any medical healthcare -- I completely, 100% agree. It is not a "health care" issue

But, I don't see how " de-interpose the state in any aspect of it." -- or I may not be understanding you correctly. We want the state to criminalize babykilling, right?

43 posted on 10/08/2012 12:36:14 AM PDT by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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Don't try to be evasive. If there's some sort of process and the state is interposed in it in any way, e.g. providing access to the courts to its practitioners or customers for example, you get a certain outcome.

Now, if you reverse the situation and pull out the state, and just leave the practitioners and customers on their own, you get a different outcome.

That's pretty much Conservative philosophy on the place of government ~ that if you put the government in you get an outcome, and if you take the government out you get another outcome.

The 10th amendment pretty well covers that ~ the government need not be involved in all aspects of society, social organization or behavior.

It seems to me the government need not be involved in picking the winners and the losers in the abortion business ~ that can be left entirely up to private individuals and it will take care of itself.

There's an existing counterpart to this in the liquor store business. The courts treat a liquor store robbery as not being all that different from stealing quarters from a newspaper vending machine ~ as a sort of nuisance. Folks who run liquor stores are expected to deal with their own 'in-store' problems ~ and they do so with an armed guard, frequently on a small mezzanine overlooking the main working area ~ or by arming all the employees.

They do not get FBI protection!

Even if your store is burned out ~ as a friend of mine's was ~ you don't get FBI help, even in DC ~ and he was in DC. Unless someone comes along and confesses burning it down you'll get little sympathy in the courts, even if you are a lawyer, which he was.

The insurance companies won't bother paying off until you get that confession and get the perpetrator tried and convicted.

That's a practical application of the 10th amendment.

Tossing the abortion industry into the same environment of freedom enjoyed by the liquor industry might bring about some interesting developments ~ like (1) Being priced out of the market, (2) Finding few new entrants to take over existing practices, (3) .........

I'm sure you can think of more developments.

44 posted on 10/08/2012 7:22:00 AM PDT by muawiyah
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