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Poll: Apparent Slide for Obama Following Debate (R-48 O-46)
National Journal ^

Posted on 10/06/2012 8:17:22 AM PDT by Perdogg

A new poll shows a slight change in the presidential race immediately following Wednesday night's debate in Denver, with a 4-point lead for President Obama the day before the debate becoming a 1-point deficit the day after his uninspiring peformance.

On Tuesday, the Washington, D.C.-based Clarus Research Group surveyed 590 likely voters and found Obama leading Mitt Romney, 49 percent to 45 percent. On Thursday, Clarus found, in an identical number of interviews, that Romney had inched ahead by 1 point, 47 percent to 46 percent.

(Excerpt) Read more at nationaljournal.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; Miscellaneous; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012polls

1 posted on 10/06/2012 8:17:26 AM PDT by Perdogg
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To: Perdogg

Just wait until post debate of Ryan v. Biden...add another 4 points!!!


2 posted on 10/06/2012 8:21:28 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (Resurrect the House Committee on Un-American Activities (HUAC)...before there is no America!)
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To: Perdogg
Dontcha just love the use of the word.."slight"...

General consenus, on all sides.. is that at least 90%, if not more of the electorate is firmly locked in..committed to one of the candidates, and can't be swayed. So, if there's a maximum of 10% available, and we now have a 5 point swing..according to the article..that means that the one debate swayed 50% of the voters that could be influenced...

3 posted on 10/06/2012 8:23:57 AM PDT by ken5050 (Barack Obama: An empty suit sitting in an empty chair...)
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To: Perdogg

Looks like Obama is settling in around 46-48 after the debate. I feel pretty good about that 30 days out. Romney needs to put the hammer down the next two weeks (Ryan and Townhall debate and more good ads), and he’s in good shape.


4 posted on 10/06/2012 8:33:37 AM PDT by ilgipper
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To: Hotlanta Mike

I can’t even Watch Obama open his yap, but I am going to enjoy watching Ryan take Biden to the mat.

Bring on the popcorn. On second thought, I expect to be laughing so hard I’d better not. I might choke on it!


5 posted on 10/06/2012 8:36:52 AM PDT by To-Whose-Benefit? (It is Error alone which needs the support of Government. The Truth can stand by itself.)
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To: Perdogg
I've seen a couple of old videos of Obama speaking and he is very good.. yes, he is likely to "knock the next one out of the park!".. he does not need a teleprompter, he's a natural speaker..

IF the subject is America is the most detestable place to live and is to blame for all the World's ills; or perhaps simply the standard theme of the Black Victims Industry's America is RACIST and must be taken down!

.. otherwise he needs a teleprompter to read because anything other than condemnation of America is like a foreign language to him.

6 posted on 10/06/2012 8:37:21 AM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: Perdogg

Looks like oversampling Dems isn’t even working.

Pray for America


7 posted on 10/06/2012 8:38:28 AM PDT by bray (If you vote for a communist what does that make you?)
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To: Perdogg
Here are some interesting stats on retail gasoline sales from the Department of Energy:
8 posted on 10/06/2012 8:44:44 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: SeekAndFind; LS; Perdogg; napscoordinator; God luvs America; nutmeg; SoFloFreeper; Ravi; ...

ping


9 posted on 10/06/2012 8:46:13 AM PDT by Perdogg (Vote like the US Constitution depends on it - it does!!)
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To: Zhang Fei
According to the chart you posted, 2012 retail gasoline sales (in gallons) has dropped nearly in half from 2007 levels.

Is this even possible? I know that I still get stuck in traffic jams every time I go to work!

10 posted on 10/06/2012 8:51:12 AM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: Perdogg

Obama got beat because the things that would improve the economy aren’t of interest to him or he would have learned them long ago.


11 posted on 10/06/2012 8:55:16 AM PDT by Son House (The Economic Boom Heard Around The World => TEA Party 2012)
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To: Hotlanta Mike
Just wait until post debate of Ryan v. Biden...add another 4 points!!!

It gets better - Mitt has shown he's quite comfortable in a teleprompter-less debate, while Obama is lost in space - all the pressure is on Obama now.

Obama would probably love to get away for some golf or vacationing right now - but he can't!! He's gotta listen to a bunch of honkies tell him "Do this" and "Don't do that" for the next 2 weeks.

Enjoy the debates.


12 posted on 10/06/2012 8:55:51 AM PDT by canuck_conservative
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To: SamAdams76

They’re DOE numbers, and there are three decades worth on that chart.


13 posted on 10/06/2012 8:56:23 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Zhang Fei
I'm not disputing your DOE chart...it just seems to me that if people were driving half as much as they used to, there wouldn't be all these traffic jams everywhere.

Maybe other areas of the country are seeing less traffic on the roads?

14 posted on 10/06/2012 8:58:33 AM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: Perdogg

Unexpected..not.


15 posted on 10/06/2012 8:58:42 AM PDT by Leep (Forward! To Surfdom)
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To: Perdogg
Among those not affiliated with either major party, Romney leads by 16

If Obama is playing rope a dope as the Left claims the dope he roped is himself.

16 posted on 10/06/2012 9:00:13 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

I want Paul Ryan to cram like Joe Biden was a blooming rose!!! Biden is, by far....the dumbest human being in the universe......but....I would take nothing for granted. Ryan has to be on top of his and the game to insure the political wipeout of Joe Biden. Please Paul...we love ya, but take nothing for granted. Proper planning, expert knowledge of the debate material, excellent delivery, bestows proper, successful, victory, performance!!! Do it!!!


17 posted on 10/06/2012 9:05:58 AM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX (My only objective is defeat and destroy Obama & his Democrat Party, politically!!!)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

Biden is a good debater and won every single debate in which he appeared with Hillary and Obama.

He lies and misrepresents like crazy, but it’s so natural to him that he gets away with it. There’s no way that some MSM journalist will call him on it.


18 posted on 10/06/2012 9:15:45 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: xzins

Ryan’s signature retort to Joe Biden next Thursday should be “There you again Joe, making stuff up”.


19 posted on 10/06/2012 9:39:41 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (Resurrect the House Committee on Un-American Activities (HUAC)...before there is no America!)
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To: Perdogg

The bump is nice, but probably temporary. And it’s nice Romney won the first debate, but we shouldn’t read too much into that. Virtually all incumbents since 1980 have lost the first debate. I think the only exception was Clinton. I have a hunch His Majesty is going to come out with all guns blazing in the next debate. I hope Romney isn’t overconfident.


20 posted on 10/06/2012 9:48:07 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: ken5050

“90%, if not more of the electorate is firmly locked in”

Those that say they are locked in assume that nothing will happen to change their minds. Something just happened that was unexpected by many, and certainly by those “locked in” to Obama.

Past counts of locked-in voters are no longer accurate.


21 posted on 10/06/2012 10:06:13 AM PDT by cymbeline
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To: chessplayer

The next Romney/Obama debate is town hall format. I don’t know that is the best spot for Obama to go on the attack.


22 posted on 10/06/2012 10:15:58 AM PDT by goodolemr
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To: To-Whose-Benefit?

Hasn’t the media already proclaimed Biden the winner of the debate with Ryan, as they did with his faceoff with Palin? So many just know what the media tells them, and I suspect Obama will regain his favor in the second debate with determined media spin.


23 posted on 10/06/2012 10:22:39 AM PDT by Theodore R. ( Who among us has not erred? Akin's the One!)
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To: SamAdams76

First, it DOES make a difference where you are driving. The entire country or even parts of states no doubt have differing amounts of traffic when compared to the past. It might also make a difference WHEN you typically drive. Some people are still driving but making fewer trips, combining errands etc but might still be found on the roads when YOU typically drive.

People are making fewer long distance/cross country type trips unless they are truckers and working. I also hear that some trucking companies have gone and are going to natural gas powered vehicles.

Second, a lot of people are driving vehicles that are much more fuel efficient than in the past.

I don’t know the specifics, but I hear on the news that America’s gasoline consumption continues to decline, per capita, year upon year upon year, which would generally fit the conclusion from the Energy Dept. data.


24 posted on 10/06/2012 10:37:41 AM PDT by txrangerette ("HOLD TO THE TRUTH...SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR." - Glenn Beck)
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To: Hotlanta Mike; All

Do NOT underestimate Biden people.

Yeah, he has a idiotic reputation, but don’t forget his performance wasn’t bad against Palin.

I think luckily Ryan is young and should come across well, but do not underestimate Biden.


25 posted on 10/06/2012 12:25:57 PM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: ilgipper

I think ALL the tapes, revelations, the Relemundo stuff were orchestrated somehow by Mitt’s team. I think you HAVE seen the hammer falling.


26 posted on 10/06/2012 12:28:37 PM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually (Hendrix))
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To: Perdogg

Democrat loses 5 points in one day “slight change in the polll”

Republican down 2 points in the poll. “Race is over”


27 posted on 10/06/2012 12:28:48 PM PDT by Personal Responsibility (The Left blaming Jim Lehrer for the debate is like blaming Lincon's assassination on the play.)
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To: xzins

I could be wrong, but didn’t Bite-Me do pretty well vs Palin, when everyone thought he would be stomped?


28 posted on 10/06/2012 12:30:54 PM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually (Hendrix))
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To: LS

Yes, he did very well. He’s smooth and his misrepresentations go by so quickly that he doesn’t get called on them.


29 posted on 10/06/2012 12:37:24 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: MNJohnnie

Post of the day......


30 posted on 10/06/2012 12:47:54 PM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: Perdogg

Its a friggin poll, of which I will NOT believe in any shape form or size.

They are in full tilt panic mode, creating loes after lies, their whole mantra is to lie their way to victory, to them playing golf is tossing hundreds of balls onto the green and when one rolls by chance into the hole they will claim it a hole in one.

No truth whatsoever, from polls to job numbers, from foreign intel to Obamacare, its all lies, smoke and diversions because doing it the right way would be too easy and the unions won’t make their take of the proceeds.

Obama got his ass whupped, now he is a rich spoiled brat scheming on getting even by any means, usually it will involve something dangerous will occur in the plan of making Romney look even smaller.


31 posted on 10/06/2012 12:55:50 PM PDT by Eye of Unk (OPSEC)
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To: rwfromkansas

Sarah was defenseless against Biden’s lies due to the fact that she wasn’t from inside the Beltway...Ryan has been there 14 years and can refute whatever bs Biden attempts to peddle.


32 posted on 10/06/2012 3:14:00 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (Resurrect the House Committee on Un-American Activities (HUAC)...before there is no America!)
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To: chessplayer

Good, the only thing Obama has going for him is his “likeability”. He comes out “All guns blazing” and it is going to do only one thing, knock those numbers down.


33 posted on 10/06/2012 3:16:40 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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Well at the rebalance site Obama has slipped A full .5% and stands at 44.47%. Romney has almost a 4% lead with 7% still undecided. This survey includes polls from before the debate.
They are still using a +.13% D party affiliation number.

Obama is toast.


34 posted on 10/06/2012 4:07:02 PM PDT by Leto
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To: chessplayer
On purely historical grounds I would agree.

This time, however, is different. There's another variable in this calculus that places unprecedented weight on the debates. That variable is the fact last Wednesday was the first time Obama has been seriously challenged by a serious and prepared opponent. He's being vetted for the first time ever.

35 posted on 10/06/2012 5:07:05 PM PDT by Lexinom
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To: Hotlanta Mike

Yes! And at that point Biden had no record to defend (as a VP/ Obama surrogate). He now has four years of failure to defend; WHOLE NEW BALLGAME!!


36 posted on 10/06/2012 5:17:26 PM PDT by Private_Sector_Does_It_Better (I AM ANDREW BREITBART)
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To: Zhang Fei





37 posted on 10/06/2012 5:23:59 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple. Fight ... or Die !)
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To: Yosemitest

Excellent charts. Thanks.


38 posted on 10/06/2012 6:17:14 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Zhang Fei

Glad you see their value.


39 posted on 10/06/2012 6:25:41 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple. Fight ... or Die !)
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To: Yosemitest

That food stamp chart is scary.

The other day I was in the checkout line behind a slightly chubby, healthy twentysomething woman who may or may not have been in college. She swiped a card of some sort as payment. The cashier said she had to sign for it. The girl signed, and left the receipt behind, discarded.

I don’t think she would have discarded the receipt if it has been from a debit card or a credit card.


40 posted on 10/06/2012 6:27:50 PM PDT by thecodont
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To: Perdogg

Notice how the story is stated in terms of Obama, e.g. Obama slides. Obama has been President for 4 years. A poor debate performance did not all of sudden enlighten people as to what Obama is or is not about.

No. The real story is that Romney is surging. A lot more people now have seen Romney in action and heard his side of the story.


41 posted on 10/06/2012 6:37:36 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: JLAGRAYFOX
Biden is, by far....the dumbest human being in the universe......but....I would take nothing for granted.

Ever hear Patricia Bin Murray from Washington, Al Franken from Minnesota or our own Pennsylvania doofus Bob Casey, Jr., the best thing of which can be said about him is that he is silent and invisible most of the time?

Biden is dumb, but nowhere near the dumbest. Not even in the narrow universe of present and former U.S. Senators. Vice Presidents? Maybe. But Al Gore would give him tough competition for that title.

42 posted on 10/06/2012 8:41:26 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: thecodont
If they don't earn the money to pay for it themselves, it has no value to them.
In short, they don't care, and aren't going to show any sense of responsibility for it.

43 posted on 10/06/2012 10:25:24 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple. Fight ... or Die !)
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To: SamAdams76

This is but a very narrow part of the market, link here shows a better count of the total gasoline market

http://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=pet&s=wgfupus2&f=w


44 posted on 10/07/2012 7:02:43 PM PDT by bricks4all@aol.com
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To: SamAdams76

This is but a very narrow part of the market, link here shows a better count of the total gasoline market

http://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=pet&s=wgfupus2&f=w


45 posted on 10/07/2012 7:02:49 PM PDT by bricks4all@aol.com
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To: Hotlanta Mike
Just wait until post debate of Ryan v. Biden...add another 4 points!!!

I rather doubt it will move the numbers at all. People are going to focus on the top of the ticket unless there were some extreme gaffe.

46 posted on 10/07/2012 7:05:15 PM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began,)
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To: LS

In what world four years ago this month would Sarah have been expected to stomp Biden? Maybe here, but, that would have been about it.


47 posted on 10/07/2012 7:11:11 PM PDT by John W (Viva Cristo Rey!)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

I don’t know what’’s wrong with me. I’m still terrified of something but not sure what. But I do know that evil doesn’t just give up and go away, they find even more heinous methods to destroy their enemies.

Aside from that, I’m feeling pretty damn good about the debate :-)


48 posted on 10/07/2012 7:11:24 PM PDT by Kenny
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To: John W

Yes here. That was exactly what I referred to.


49 posted on 10/08/2012 3:26:15 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually (Hendrix))
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