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Cold-hearted cops charge mom of dead son for dent in NYPD car
NYDailyNews.com ^ | 10/6/2012 | JOHN MARZULLI

Posted on 10/06/2012 9:37:12 AM PDT by South40

The 27-year-old coffee barista died in April after being struck by an NYPD squad car that began chasing him as he swiped paver stones in the predawn light at his Brooklyn housing project.

Now his mom’s being chased anew, hounded by a collection agency hired by the city with a cruel final demand, the Daily News has learned.

The city has ordered her to pay the $710 cost of repairing the police car that killed her boy.

(Excerpt) Read more at nydailynews.com ...


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1 posted on 10/06/2012 9:37:18 AM PDT by South40
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To: South40

I have no pity for thieves.


2 posted on 10/06/2012 9:40:55 AM PDT by Blennos
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To: South40

Nanny-Mike is on the warpath...


3 posted on 10/06/2012 9:41:40 AM PDT by Wings-n-Wind (The main things are the plain things!)
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To: South40

So, we have outrage by a parent of a society parasite (thief), who was killed while fleeing the police - because he was caught in the act of stealing property. In his attempt to flee the police, he was killed (for which I have ZERO sympathy) and damaged the taxpayer’s police car.

If Mommy and Daddy were not abject FAILURES as parents, they would still have a kid. If the parasite didn’t decide to evade the police, he wouldn’t be dead.

Cry me a river, pay the fine and whine to someone who cares. I have no sympathy for parasites.


4 posted on 10/06/2012 9:42:25 AM PDT by Hodar (A man can fail many times, but he isn't a failure until he begins to blame somebody else.- Burroughs)
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To: Blennos

The dead son was the thief, not the surviving mother.


5 posted on 10/06/2012 9:43:22 AM PDT by South40 ("Islam has a proud tradition of tolerance." - Barack Hussein Obama - Cairo, Egypt, June 4, 2009.)
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To: South40
The 27-year-old coffee barista...

"coffee barista"?

6 posted on 10/06/2012 9:45:02 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Hodar
Cry me a river, pay the fine and whine to someone who cares. I have no sympathy for parasites.

The son was 27 years old. The mother is no longer legally responsible for his actions.
7 posted on 10/06/2012 9:45:15 AM PDT by microgood
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To: Hodar

I would agree if the son had been a minor. But he was a 27-year-old adult. Are your parents financially responsible for your actions? Should they be?


8 posted on 10/06/2012 9:45:40 AM PDT by South40 ("Islam has a proud tradition of tolerance." - Barack Hussein Obama - Cairo, Egypt, June 4, 2009.)
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To: South40

Since when is a parent responsible for a 27 year-old child?

Even Obamacare cuts off being covered on your parents’ medical insurance at 26.

If I got a bill for something owed (or not) by my 27 year-old child, I would not pay it.


9 posted on 10/06/2012 9:47:46 AM PDT by married21 (As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: microgood

The attached article says the letter was addressed to her son? Also sounds like the family has a lawyer and lawsuit in the works..


10 posted on 10/06/2012 9:49:11 AM PDT by pnz1
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To: South40
Maybe the city is going after the son's estate, not her.

Not to say I think the city should be going after the son's estate. The cops hit a pedestrian that they were well aware of.

11 posted on 10/06/2012 9:50:00 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Blennos
“I have no pity for thieves.”

It's very Lenin like to go after the dead kids mother to fix dents in a cop car.

12 posted on 10/06/2012 9:50:00 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Encourage all of your Democrat friends to get out and vote on November 7th, the stakes are high.)
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To: pnz1
The attached article says the letter was addressed to her son?

That it does. But it also says this...

"It also threatens to slap the family with a lawsuit if the claim isn’t paid.

I'm no expert on NY law but it seems the city has little chance of collecting this money so it is trying to do so by threatening the family.

13 posted on 10/06/2012 9:54:34 AM PDT by South40 ("Islam has a proud tradition of tolerance." - Barack Hussein Obama - Cairo, Egypt, June 4, 2009.)
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To: South40

Maybe a bit over-the-top on the part of the authorities, but if you’re going to steal things the consequences are on you. In this case, since the thief was a minor, the parents are responsible for the damages.


14 posted on 10/06/2012 9:55:36 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: HereInTheHeartland

http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/City-Apologizes-for-Billing-Man-Killed-by-Police-Tamon-Robinson-NYPD-172961341.html


15 posted on 10/06/2012 9:55:41 AM PDT by freedommom
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To: HereInTheHeartland

http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/City-Apologizes-for-Billing-Man-Killed-by-Police-Tamon-Robinson-NYPD-172961341.html


16 posted on 10/06/2012 9:55:53 AM PDT by freedommom
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To: Lancey Howard

“coffee barista” = Starbucks employee.


17 posted on 10/06/2012 9:56:34 AM PDT by South40 ("Islam has a proud tradition of tolerance." - Barack Hussein Obama - Cairo, Egypt, June 4, 2009.)
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To: South40

I’m glad the stones we used (not me, the builder) weigh so much, I almost threw my back out putting one back I accidentally knocked over with my car. I’d be more than a little PO’d to come home and find one of my retaining walls missing stones besides the ones I knock over.

Now, what was someone that lives in a housing project going to do with paver stones??? Did he already have a buyer? Did the cops look for him since he is accessory and since the kid died, he gets to be an accessory for that as well?

Thieves aren’t high on my list of people I like although him getting killed sucks but if he hadn’t been committing some crime, he would still be alive today.

Until I actually drove through NYC, the closest I ever got to the projects was the show, “Good Times” and “Cops”! They are hell holes and I feel sorry for the decent people that live in them. I however, have zero sympathy for the thugs that make them such a terrible place.


18 posted on 10/06/2012 9:57:09 AM PDT by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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To: microgood
The son was 27 years old. The mother is no longer legally responsible for his actions.

I must not have read the article carefully enough; I thought he was a minor. In that case, the parents are NOT liable, unless they had him in wardship or something.

19 posted on 10/06/2012 9:57:11 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham
In this case, since the thief was a minor, the parents are responsible for the damages.

Read the article. It says the thief was 27-years-old.

20 posted on 10/06/2012 9:57:49 AM PDT by South40 ("Islam has a proud tradition of tolerance." - Barack Hussein Obama - Cairo, Egypt, June 4, 2009.)
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To: South40

If I caught him stealing from me I’d want $1.50 for every round I put in his ass. Them Hornady 300gr 45 Colt rounds are not cheap!


21 posted on 10/06/2012 9:58:33 AM PDT by Feckless (I was trained by the US << This Tagline Censored by FR >> ain't that irOnic?)
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To: South40
After our 18 year old son was broadsided and killed by a Mexican yardman, we got a letter from his attorney saying he wanted us to buy him another car because his was totaled. How's that for a lot of nerve!
22 posted on 10/06/2012 9:58:33 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

You and me both, he was 27?? How are his parents responsible for the dent in the cop car? The ‘kid’ was an adult to us, he’s only a ‘kid’ to a liberal reporter, and apparently collection agencies.


23 posted on 10/06/2012 9:59:28 AM PDT by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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To: Lx

I don’t think many here have sympathy for the thief whose illegal actions resulted in his own death. The issue here is should parents be responsible for damages caused of their adult son.


24 posted on 10/06/2012 10:00:30 AM PDT by South40 ("Islam has a proud tradition of tolerance." - Barack Hussein Obama - Cairo, Egypt, June 4, 2009.)
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To: Ditter

Incredible. And I’m very sorry.


25 posted on 10/06/2012 10:02:01 AM PDT by Tuanedge (Warriors victorious in a hundred battles, flee when a tiger enters their tent.)
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To: Ditter

I’m sorry for the death of your son, that must have been an incredibly hard thing to deal with. Asking you to pay for the man’s car was as wrong as the story is tragic. May I assume you told them get lost?


26 posted on 10/06/2012 10:02:55 AM PDT by South40 ("Islam has a proud tradition of tolerance." - Barack Hussein Obama - Cairo, Egypt, June 4, 2009.)
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To: South40

Hmm. A collection agency not the cops. I had a friend who died whose widow got letters demanding child support after SS survivors benefits were being paid his child’s mother.


27 posted on 10/06/2012 10:07:40 AM PDT by the_daug
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To: the_daug
The collection agency was apparently hired by the city.

New York City officials have apologized for sending a collection letter to a man who was killed by a police cruiser

28 posted on 10/06/2012 10:10:08 AM PDT by South40 ("Islam has a proud tradition of tolerance." - Barack Hussein Obama - Cairo, Egypt, June 4, 2009.)
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2941157/posts <- Second thread, same subject.

A post in there explains that the demand letter is a form letter, and that the demand was withdrawn after a human looked at the circumstances leading to the damage.

29 posted on 10/06/2012 10:11:27 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: South40
Yes, we told our attorney to tell him that our son was still dead and to go f... himself. He probably left off my last comment.
30 posted on 10/06/2012 10:11:43 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: microgood

The mother is probably the executor of his estate, whatever estate a 27 year old barista who lives in a project may have. The police are almost certainly making a claim against any assets he may have had through her as executor of the estate — the same as any creditor would.


31 posted on 10/06/2012 10:15:28 AM PDT by MediaMole
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To: Ditter

Ditter,just wanted to express my sorrow at hearing of your son’s passing.

May God bless you and strengthen you and Mrs. Ditter.


32 posted on 10/06/2012 10:15:39 AM PDT by exit82 (Pass the word: Obama is a FAILURE!! Democrats are the enemies of freedom!)
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To: South40

For what it’s worth........

City Tried to Bill Dead Man for Damage to Police Car That Struck and Killed Him

Late last month, Laverne Dobbinson received a letter, addressed to her son, from a law firm notifying him that it had been retained by the City of New York to collect money for damages to a police car. ..........

On Friday, the law firm handling the collection effort said it had formally dropped the effort. Paul J. Browne, a spokesman for the Police Department, said his agency did not send out the letter and referred the matter to the city’s Law Department.

“We don’t know any instance where we send letters like that,” he said. “I’m not sure how it came out.”

Kate Ahlers, a spokeswoman for the Law Department, said the notice had been sent in error after her department received a referral from a unit of the Police Department. “We regret that Mr. Robinson’s family received a collection notice,” she said in a statement, adding, “We recognize that this involves a tragic case.”
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http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/06/nyregion/woman-charged-for-damages-to-police-car-that-struck-tamon-robinson.html?_r=1


33 posted on 10/06/2012 10:17:09 AM PDT by deport
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To: the_daug

All the family had to do is write a letter to the effect. The person who caused the damage is dead and we’re not responsible for his debts. Don’t contact us ever again about this matter. “A cease-and-desist letter is a letter demanding that the recipient refrain from a certain behavior or face legal action.”


34 posted on 10/06/2012 10:21:34 AM PDT by the_daug
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To: Lx

I’m gonna guess this kid was on parole and the mother WAS responsible.


35 posted on 10/06/2012 10:25:05 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (r)
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To: South40

Yes, and not the cops. but the title says “cold hearted cops”


36 posted on 10/06/2012 10:25:57 AM PDT by the_daug
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To: Lx

FWIW from another NYT article:

“In 2009, he was arrested four times for stealing various types of cobblestones, including one arrest at the World Trade Center site at 4 a.m., which netted him a 15-day jail sentence, according to the authorities. “

It also says he had about $2000 worth of them in his vehicle at the time of incident..


37 posted on 10/06/2012 10:55:28 AM PDT by pnz1
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To: exit82
Thank you exit. He died in 1984 so we have come to grips with it, it took a long time but........ BTW I am Mrs. Ditter. :)
38 posted on 10/06/2012 10:55:59 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: South40; Blennos; GeronL

I have no pity for thieves either but his Ma was not one (that we know of) nor was she charged with this crime so why does she have to pay?

Is this even legal?


39 posted on 10/06/2012 11:10:15 AM PDT by Morgana (Time to play cowboys and muslims.)
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To: South40
"...as he swiped paver stones in the predawn light at his Brooklyn housing project.

Those stupid stones would have gotten the idiopt what- a buck each?

But the original cost plus labor TIMES TWO to do it over again will be 100 times that cost

I have no pity for anything that happens to thieves, petty or not.

In arab contries he would lose a hand

40 posted on 10/06/2012 11:24:08 AM PDT by Mr. K ("The only thing the World would hate more than the USA in charge is the USA NOT in charge")
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To: pnz1

Sounds like a fine member of society. I wonder what $2000 worth of pavers weighs and what his car looked like loaded down.

I guess there’s a fence that will buy anything stolen????


41 posted on 10/06/2012 11:40:14 AM PDT by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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To: Ditter

Hugs to you, (mrs.) Ditter.

I am sure some days it feels like only yesterday.


42 posted on 10/06/2012 12:20:27 PM PDT by exit82 (Pass the word: Obama is a FAILURE!! Democrats are the enemies of freedom!)
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To: Blennos
I have no pity for thieves.

Me, either, but the dead guy is the perp, not his mother. Charge his estate the $710, or her, but only if he left her that much.

43 posted on 10/06/2012 1:22:12 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: South40

OUTRAGEOUS!!!!!

$710 for a dent repair?


44 posted on 10/06/2012 1:28:53 PM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: exit82

Yes it does, but you must learn to move on and not dwell in the past because there is nothing you can do about it now.


45 posted on 10/06/2012 2:18:32 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: Morgana

I don’t see how she has to pay


46 posted on 10/06/2012 2:40:41 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

Reading comprehension difficulties?


47 posted on 10/06/2012 3:49:52 PM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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To: TXnMA

As the good Lord said, “let him among you who is without sin cast the first stone.” Jackass.


48 posted on 10/06/2012 3:55:11 PM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: South40

So? It sends a message, one that needs to be firmly sent.


49 posted on 10/06/2012 6:52:52 PM PDT by Fire_on_High (RIP City of Heroes and Paragon Studios, victim of the Obamaconomy.)
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