Posted on 10/06/2012 9:37:12 AM PDT by South40
The 27-year-old coffee barista died in April after being struck by an NYPD squad car that began chasing him as he swiped paver stones in the predawn light at his Brooklyn housing project.
Now his moms being chased anew, hounded by a collection agency hired by the city with a cruel final demand, the Daily News has learned.
The city has ordered her to pay the $710 cost of repairing the police car that killed her boy.
(Excerpt) Read more at nydailynews.com ...
I have no pity for thieves.
Nanny-Mike is on the warpath...
So, we have outrage by a parent of a society parasite (thief), who was killed while fleeing the police - because he was caught in the act of stealing property. In his attempt to flee the police, he was killed (for which I have ZERO sympathy) and damaged the taxpayer’s police car.
If Mommy and Daddy were not abject FAILURES as parents, they would still have a kid. If the parasite didn’t decide to evade the police, he wouldn’t be dead.
Cry me a river, pay the fine and whine to someone who cares. I have no sympathy for parasites.
The dead son was the thief, not the surviving mother.
"coffee barista"?
I would agree if the son had been a minor. But he was a 27-year-old adult. Are your parents financially responsible for your actions? Should they be?
Since when is a parent responsible for a 27 year-old child?
Even Obamacare cuts off being covered on your parents’ medical insurance at 26.
If I got a bill for something owed (or not) by my 27 year-old child, I would not pay it.
The attached article says the letter was addressed to her son? Also sounds like the family has a lawyer and lawsuit in the works..
Not to say I think the city should be going after the son's estate. The cops hit a pedestrian that they were well aware of.
It's very Lenin like to go after the dead kids mother to fix dents in a cop car.
That it does. But it also says this...
"It also threatens to slap the family with a lawsuit if the claim isnt paid.
I'm no expert on NY law but it seems the city has little chance of collecting this money so it is trying to do so by threatening the family.
Maybe a bit over-the-top on the part of the authorities, but if you’re going to steal things the consequences are on you. In this case, since the thief was a minor, the parents are responsible for the damages.
“coffee barista” = Starbucks employee.
I’m glad the stones we used (not me, the builder) weigh so much, I almost threw my back out putting one back I accidentally knocked over with my car. I’d be more than a little PO’d to come home and find one of my retaining walls missing stones besides the ones I knock over.
Now, what was someone that lives in a housing project going to do with paver stones??? Did he already have a buyer? Did the cops look for him since he is accessory and since the kid died, he gets to be an accessory for that as well?
Thieves aren’t high on my list of people I like although him getting killed sucks but if he hadn’t been committing some crime, he would still be alive today.
Until I actually drove through NYC, the closest I ever got to the projects was the show, “Good Times” and “Cops”! They are hell holes and I feel sorry for the decent people that live in them. I however, have zero sympathy for the thugs that make them such a terrible place.
I must not have read the article carefully enough; I thought he was a minor. In that case, the parents are NOT liable, unless they had him in wardship or something.
Read the article. It says the thief was 27-years-old.
If I caught him stealing from me I’d want $1.50 for every round I put in his ass. Them Hornady 300gr 45 Colt rounds are not cheap!
You and me both, he was 27?? How are his parents responsible for the dent in the cop car? The ‘kid’ was an adult to us, he’s only a ‘kid’ to a liberal reporter, and apparently collection agencies.
I don’t think many here have sympathy for the thief whose illegal actions resulted in his own death. The issue here is should parents be responsible for damages caused of their adult son.
Incredible. And I’m very sorry.
I’m sorry for the death of your son, that must have been an incredibly hard thing to deal with. Asking you to pay for the man’s car was as wrong as the story is tragic. May I assume you told them get lost?
Hmm. A collection agency not the cops. I had a friend who died whose widow got letters demanding child support after SS survivors benefits were being paid his child’s mother.
New York City officials have apologized for sending a collection letter to a man who was killed by a police cruiser
A post in there explains that the demand letter is a form letter, and that the demand was withdrawn after a human looked at the circumstances leading to the damage.
The mother is probably the executor of his estate, whatever estate a 27 year old barista who lives in a project may have. The police are almost certainly making a claim against any assets he may have had through her as executor of the estate — the same as any creditor would.
Ditter,just wanted to express my sorrow at hearing of your son’s passing.
May God bless you and strengthen you and Mrs. Ditter.
For what it’s worth........
City Tried to Bill Dead Man for Damage to Police Car That Struck and Killed Him
Late last month, Laverne Dobbinson received a letter, addressed to her son, from a law firm notifying him that it had been retained by the City of New York to collect money for damages to a police car. ..........
On Friday, the law firm handling the collection effort said it had formally dropped the effort. Paul J. Browne, a spokesman for the Police Department, said his agency did not send out the letter and referred the matter to the citys Law Department.
We dont know any instance where we send letters like that, he said. Im not sure how it came out.
Kate Ahlers, a spokeswoman for the Law Department, said the notice had been sent in error after her department received a referral from a unit of the Police Department. We regret that Mr. Robinsons family received a collection notice, she said in a statement, adding, We recognize that this involves a tragic case.
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All the family had to do is write a letter to the effect. The person who caused the damage is dead and we’re not responsible for his debts. Don’t contact us ever again about this matter. “A cease-and-desist letter is a letter demanding that the recipient refrain from a certain behavior or face legal action.”
I’m gonna guess this kid was on parole and the mother WAS responsible.
Yes, and not the cops. but the title says “cold hearted cops”
FWIW from another NYT article:
“In 2009, he was arrested four times for stealing various types of cobblestones, including one arrest at the World Trade Center site at 4 a.m., which netted him a 15-day jail sentence, according to the authorities. “
It also says he had about $2000 worth of them in his vehicle at the time of incident..
I have no pity for thieves either but his Ma was not one (that we know of) nor was she charged with this crime so why does she have to pay?
Is this even legal?
Those stupid stones would have gotten the idiopt what- a buck each?
But the original cost plus labor TIMES TWO to do it over again will be 100 times that cost
I have no pity for anything that happens to thieves, petty or not.
In arab contries he would lose a hand
Sounds like a fine member of society. I wonder what $2000 worth of pavers weighs and what his car looked like loaded down.
I guess there’s a fence that will buy anything stolen????
Hugs to you, (mrs.) Ditter.
I am sure some days it feels like only yesterday.
Me, either, but the dead guy is the perp, not his mother. Charge his estate the $710, or her, but only if he left her that much.
OUTRAGEOUS!!!!!
$710 for a dent repair?
Yes it does, but you must learn to move on and not dwell in the past because there is nothing you can do about it now.
I don’t see how she has to pay
Reading comprehension difficulties?
As the good Lord said, “let him among you who is without sin cast the first stone.” Jackass.
So? It sends a message, one that needs to be firmly sent.
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