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Military Employed For Crowd Control At College Football Game
Oath Keepers ^ | October 4th, 2012 | Brandon Turbeville

Posted on 10/06/2012 10:40:19 AM PDT by Snuph

In yet another example of the blurring of the lines between civilian police and US military forces, Columbia, South Carolina police “officials” have announced that US Military Police from Ft. Jackson will be on the streets alongside civilian law enforcement after the South Carolina-Georgia football game this Saturday night, October 6. According to reports by WISTV, Columbia will be spending more than $11,000 worth of overtime for 50 officers who will be placed in the Five Points and Vista areas after the game. The teams will be made up of University of South Carolina Campus Police, Richland County Sheriff’s Deputies, the South Carolina Highway Patrol, and Military Police from Ft. Jackson. The plan will involve barricades, surveillance cameras, DUI checkpoints, and even observation towers “to keep the crowd under control.”

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: nikkihaley; policestate
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Yes it is against the law. But then again, since when have the law applied to the rulers? Time is short.
1 posted on 10/06/2012 10:40:26 AM PDT by Snuph
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To: Snuph

Time is short indeed


2 posted on 10/06/2012 10:41:36 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: 2nd amendment mama

ping!


3 posted on 10/06/2012 10:44:34 AM PDT by basil (Second Amendment Sisters.org)
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To: Snuph

Now that’s scarey. How does the military decide who’s the bad guy??


4 posted on 10/06/2012 10:46:39 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (r)
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To: Snuph
I suspect you are thinking of the "posse comitatus" act, much beloved by freepers. The act does not prohibit use of Army troops for domestic law enforcement, if authorized by Congress. Laws passed since 9/11 make these issues more ambiguous. I recall flying soon enough after 9/11 to see active duty troops at the airport. No one complained about violation of the law then.

If the MP's are just standing by in case a soldier needs to be taken into custody, which appears from the article to be the enabling mission explanation, it is doubtful that that would violate the law.

btw, little known, Marines are not covered under posse comitatus, nor are National Guard units.

5 posted on 10/06/2012 11:00:03 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Snuph

I’m feeling so much safer now. How about you?


6 posted on 10/06/2012 11:04:00 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: hinckley buzzard
Incorrect. From the article:

Unfortunately, the placement of military soldiers in civilian law enforcement capacity is not only a violation of the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878, it is now an increasingly common occurrence.

Just a few years ago a mass murder happened in Alabama involving multiple crime scenes. The sheriff having only 1 deputy asking for help from the local military base to secure the sights. Later it was ruled by the courts to have been an illegal act.

7 posted on 10/06/2012 11:05:36 AM PDT by Snuph ("give me Liberty...")
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To: hinckley buzzard

You’re comparing post 9-11 with a college football game??


8 posted on 10/06/2012 11:07:44 AM PDT by Bradís Gramma (PRAY for this country like your life depends on it......because it DOES!)
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To: Snuph

I believe that Posse Comitatus does not apply to the USMC and it MIGHT not apply to the USAF.


9 posted on 10/06/2012 11:09:46 AM PDT by gaijin (Er)
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To: hinckley buzzard
Great response. No one said anything when my Marine battalion (2nd Bn 9th Marines) went into L.A. during the Rodney King riots. Between us and the National Guard, the B.S. stopped instantly. At no time did the military TAKE OVER civilian control: we were asked for by the Governor.

Posse Comitatus is not absolute, and there are benefits on both sides of the limiting factors in its use.

10 posted on 10/06/2012 11:11:39 AM PDT by Salvavida (The restoration of the U.S.A. starts with filling the pews at every Bible-believing church.)
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To: hinckley buzzard
btw, little known, Marines are not covered under posse comitatus, nor are National Guard units.

Courts have ruled otherwise. The National Guard is now part of the US Military. They no longer report to the Governor of their state.

11 posted on 10/06/2012 11:12:03 AM PDT by Snuph ("give me Liberty...")
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To: Salvavida

Hinkley is correct, it does not apply to the Marine Corps


12 posted on 10/06/2012 11:15:05 AM PDT by Snuph ("give me Liberty...")
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To: Snuph

I’m not sure of the reason for this...are they giving out Section 8 housing vouchers at the game?


13 posted on 10/06/2012 11:16:35 AM PDT by nascarnation (Defeat Baraq 2012. Deport Baraq 2013)
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Interesting they are putting the MPs in Five Points area..where there has been a problem with Black Racist Thugs attacking Whites. Wonder if they are there to protect Obama’s Children?


14 posted on 10/06/2012 11:16:50 AM PDT by SeminoleCounty (Political maturity is realizing that the "R" next to someone's name does not mean "conservative")
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To: Snuph

So, this is how it begins. Today, football games. Tomorrow, our neighborhoods.


15 posted on 10/06/2012 11:21:43 AM PDT by bgill
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To: Snuph

Military police have no civilian jurisdiction. Any arrests of civilians by military personnel not within the precincts of a US military compound would be weightless, and the arrestee could sue prosecute for wrongful detention.


16 posted on 10/06/2012 11:25:24 AM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: Snuph

Military police have no civilian jurisdiction. Any arrests of civilians by military personnel not within the precincts of a US military compound would be weightless, and the arrestee could prosecute for wrongful detention.


17 posted on 10/06/2012 11:25:41 AM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: Snuph

No, but there is a DoD regulation that prevents the Marine Corps and Navy from being used without civilian authority. The Marine Corps cannot be used willy-nilly just because it isn’t mentioned in the Posse Comitatus Act.


18 posted on 10/06/2012 11:27:54 AM PDT by Salvavida (The restoration of the U.S.A. starts with filling the pews at every Bible-believing church.)
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To: bgill
Remember the “exercises” in St Louis just last year?
19 posted on 10/06/2012 11:28:34 AM PDT by Snuph ("give me Liberty...")
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To: Snuph

ROE apply, right? They can’t shoot students at night because it might wake people up?


20 posted on 10/06/2012 11:32:40 AM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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