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Socialized medicine: Patients starve and die of thirst on hospital wards
The Telegraph ^ | 10/6/2012 | Laura Donnelly

Posted on 10/06/2012 2:34:17 PM PDT by bruinbirdman

Forty-three hospital patients starved to death last year and 111 died of thirst while being treated on wards, new figures disclose today.


There were 558 cases last year where doctors recorded that a patient had died in a
state of severe dehydration in UK hospitals

The death toll was disclosed by the UK Government amid mounting concern over the dignity of patients on NHS wards.

They will also fuel concerns about care homes, as it was disclosed that eight people starved to death and 21 people died of thirst while in care.

Last night there were warnings that they must prompt action by the NHS and care home regulators to prevent further deaths among patients.

The Office for National Statistics figures also showed that:

* as well as 43 people who starved to death, 287 people were recorded by doctors as being malnourished when they died in hospitals;

* there were 558 cases where doctors recorded that a patient had died in a state of severe dehydration in hospitals;

* 78 hospital and 39 care home patients were killed by bedsores, while a further 650 people who died had their presence noted on their death certificates; * 21,696 were recorded as suffering from septicemia when they died, a condition which experts say is most often associated with infected wounds.

The records, from the Office for National Statistics, follow a series of scandals of care of the elderly, with doctors forced to prescribe patients with drinking water or put them on drips to make sure they do not become severely dehydrated .

Katherine Murphy, chief executive of the Patients Association said the statistics were a grim and shaming reflection of 21st century Britain.

"These are people's mothers, fathers, and grandparents," she said. "It is

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KEYWORDS: dehydration; euthanasia; healthcare; heartattack; hospitalnegligence; moralabsolutes; nhs; nih; obamacare; pneumonia; prolife; readmittance; socializedmedicine; starvation
Under ObamaCare Socialized Medicine, you better be ready to take care of your parents yourself if they are hostpitalized.
1 posted on 10/06/2012 2:34:21 PM PDT by bruinbirdman
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To: bruinbirdman
I remember the Dems back in the 80s stating often “we need to be more like Europe”

Well, they got their wish. Good luck fellow citizens.

2 posted on 10/06/2012 2:37:43 PM PDT by Snuph ("give me Liberty...")
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To: bruinbirdman

Moslems and OUR FAMILES are exempt, suckers.”

3 posted on 10/06/2012 2:39:33 PM PDT by Diogenesis (Vi veri veniversum vivus vici)
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To: bruinbirdman

That is one way to bring down health costs.


4 posted on 10/06/2012 2:45:16 PM PDT by Raycpa
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To: bruinbirdman

Nevil Shute wrote a couple of novels that expressed a dim view of British socialism and medicine back in the early 50s.


5 posted on 10/06/2012 2:46:43 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: bruinbirdman; 185JHP; 230FMJ; AKA Elena; APatientMan; Albion Wilde; Aleighanne; Alexander Rubin; ...
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Absolutely skin crawlingly terrifying. I saw an article the other day that I neglected to ping out in which a Dem somebody or other admitted that 0 care did indeed have "death panels". If anyone knows where that article is could you ping me?

When those in charge of "health care" love to kill people, it does not stop with merely starving and dehydrated people to death, or merely with holding other care. It inevitably will lead to actively murdering people with drugs or other methods. Guaranteed.

6 posted on 10/06/2012 2:48:18 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: bruinbirdman
But they had big money to celebrate failure.

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7 posted on 10/06/2012 3:02:23 PM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: bruinbirdman

Who would put their loved ones in these warehouses of death? Every government bureaucrat who allows the elderly and infirm to starve and thirst to death should be treated in the same way when they are old. But of course, government higher-ups will always exempt themselves from such inhumane treatment.


8 posted on 10/06/2012 3:02:31 PM PDT by txrefugee
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To: bruinbirdman
Not to worry, in America the Obamacare Death Panels will not let anyone “suffer.”
9 posted on 10/06/2012 3:18:07 PM PDT by Happy Rain ("Water is wet and Obama is a liar.")
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To: bruinbirdman

When I lived in New Zealand that has socialized medicine, I visited an acquaintance in a ward. As an RN, having worked in a renowned, University teaching hospital, it was terribly shocking.

If I hadn’t been a nurse, I’d have probably died when I developed a penicillin allergy. Thankfully, I took about a bottle of Benadryl before my neighbor took me to the ER. My doctor about had a cow the next day when I told him I’d been abandoned in a back room, and finally walked out when I could breath normally again thanks to all the Benadryl I took. Then there were the experiences with daughter...I shudder to think what will happen with Obama care.


10 posted on 10/06/2012 3:33:48 PM PDT by pops88 (Standing with Breitbart for truth)
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To: cripplecreek
He was a brilliant writer. I will never forget the televised version of A Town Like Alice as long as I live, even though I saw it 31 years ago.
11 posted on 10/06/2012 3:36:52 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (Obama better hope a Kicked Ass is covered under Obamacare. -- Dennis Miller re debate 1)
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To: bruinbirdman
This is true now in the US and operates under the term “comfort care”. My family just went through this with my father in law who was in a university hospital. They wanted to withhold food and water because they said it “didn't prolong life”. He's alive and well now but I have no doubt that they consider him a useless eater.
12 posted on 10/06/2012 3:42:52 PM PDT by Varda
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To: bruinbirdman

I have a friend who’s Irish (married to an American and has lived here for 12+ years, two kids). She is astounded at the rush to nationalize healthcare. “People here have NO IDEA what they’re wishing for!” she exclaims. Her own mother, back home, had to wait over a year for simple cardiac catheterization — a woman in her upper 50s! “The list was so long” explained my friend.

Utter in-freakin’-sanity!!!!


13 posted on 10/06/2012 3:43:09 PM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1)
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To: Albion Wilde

I read “On the beach” years ago and was struck by the fact that it was an oddly hopeful story in the face of certain death.

The Far Country (1952): A young woman travels to Australia. A condemnation of British socialism and the national health service.

In the Wet (1953); an Anglican priest tells the story of an Australian aviator. This embraces a drug-induced flash forward to Britain in the 1980s. The novel criticizes British socialism.

So Disdained (1928), written soon after the General Strike of 1926, reflected the debate in British Society about socialism and considered whether Italian fascism was an effective antidote.

Ruined City (1938; U.S. title: Kindling) a rich banker revives a town economically with a shipbuilding company through questionable financial dealings. He goes to jail for fraud, but the shipyard revives. Ruined City was distilled from Shute’s experiences in trying to set up his own aircraft company.


14 posted on 10/06/2012 3:48:59 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Irenic

I couldn’t decide if that spectacle was more pathetic than disgusting or more disgusting than pathetic. And the Brits used to be so brave and stoic, sad to see what socialism does to a country.


15 posted on 10/06/2012 4:00:14 PM PDT by pepperdog ( I still get a thrill up my leg when spell check doesn't recognize the name/word Obama!)
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To: bruinbirdman

OBAMACARE plans to not permit readmissions of Medicare patients. Hosptials will be fined if they are readmitted. So if mom has surgery and develops an infection, forget about it.

Also, plan on comfort care only after age 72.


16 posted on 10/06/2012 4:00:52 PM PDT by Chickensoup (STOP The Great O-ppression)
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To: Albion Wilde
Trustee from the Tool Room was another.
17 posted on 10/06/2012 4:01:32 PM PDT by pepperdog ( I still get a thrill up my leg when spell check doesn't recognize the name/word Obama!)
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To: Chickensoup
The penalties started last Monday, it is terrifying to read what admissions with be penalized. If you have congestive heart disease, heart attack or pneumonia be prepared to be denied admission to a hospital a second time, and these are disease that often require readmission. My husband would be long dead had this taken effect a year ago. I have told him and made him mad enough that he's going to live a lot longer just to spite Obama!
18 posted on 10/06/2012 4:05:26 PM PDT by pepperdog ( I still get a thrill up my leg when spell check doesn't recognize the name/word Obama!)
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To: workerbee

“Her own mother, back home, had to wait over a year for simple cardiac catheterization — a woman in her upper 50s!”

I had a neighbor that needed triple bypass surgery and had to wait over 6 months. I, and I’m sure a lot of others, prayed fervently for him. My daughter’s tutor had diabetes. I can’t even begin to explain what she went through. I don’t think people really understand the horrors of socialized medicine unless they’ve experienced it, and how we’ve had the best medical care in the world in the U.S.


19 posted on 10/06/2012 4:06:22 PM PDT by pops88 (Standing with Breitbart for truth)
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To: bruinbirdman

Gee I don’t remember this happening in the tribute to the NHS during the London Olympics’ opening ceremony. Somebody call Danny Boyle!


20 posted on 10/06/2012 4:11:26 PM PDT by Mr. Dough (Who was the greater military man, General Tso or Col. Sanders?)
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To: cripplecreek

We need another Nevil Shute today! Thanks for the capsule reviews — maybe some younger FReepers will tune in to Shute!


21 posted on 10/06/2012 4:18:56 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (Obama better hope a Kicked Ass is covered under Obamacare. -- Dennis Miller re debate 1)
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To: pops88

Like so much of socialism, people let themselves be sold on the ideal vs. the reality.


22 posted on 10/06/2012 4:21:44 PM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1)
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To: Albion Wilde

He definitely had a bit of an Ayn Rand bent to his writing.


23 posted on 10/06/2012 4:22:44 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: bruinbirdman

Bump


24 posted on 10/06/2012 5:12:45 PM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: bruinbirdman

Bump!!!!


25 posted on 10/06/2012 5:25:46 PM PDT by PushinTin (Politicians are like diapers, the need to be changed often and for the same reason...)
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To: Snuph

Has Britain ever had a revolution? Doesn’t like it.


26 posted on 10/06/2012 5:41:44 PM PDT by gotribe (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AV415yit7Zg)
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To: bruinbirdman

people who run such a system should be tried, convicted and jailed and should even be up for charges for crimes against humanity.


27 posted on 10/06/2012 11:03:13 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (June 28th, 2012, the Day America Jumped The Shark.)
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To: Irenic

When I saw the tribute to the NHS during the Olympics, I almost did a Elvis on the TV.


28 posted on 10/06/2012 11:04:34 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (June 28th, 2012, the Day America Jumped The Shark.)
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To: Nowhere Man
1.7 million NHS employees are quite the constituency, civil servants all.

Talk about paying for votes.

yitbos

29 posted on 10/06/2012 11:31:53 PM PDT by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds." -- Ayn Rand)
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To: bruinbirdman

Despicable and coming here if Obama is reelected.


30 posted on 10/06/2012 11:41:13 PM PDT by Pinkbell
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To: pepperdog

Funny that the media has not picked up on that little bit of information. No Sir! No real information.


31 posted on 10/07/2012 6:01:54 AM PDT by Chickensoup (STOP The Great O-ppression)
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To: BykrBayb

:-(


32 posted on 10/07/2012 8:41:40 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: little jeremiah

Socialists don’t have a clue about the value of life. They’ll kill their own grandmothers for a morsel of cheese.


33 posted on 10/07/2012 2:36:33 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: BykrBayb

They only value their own lives, and even then, only when they can feel that they are in control. Years ago I read a book about the suicide/euthanasia movement (can’t remember the author, you’d know) and the primary reason these people want legalized suicide is because they want to be in total control of when they die.

And of course, when “other” people die.

They are pure, unadulterated Evil.


34 posted on 10/07/2012 3:15:15 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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