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Mother of Man Killed by Police: ‘I Want No Cover-Up; I Want Answers’
New York Times ^ | October 6, 2012 | COLIN MOYNIHAN and WENDY RUDERMAN

Posted on 10/06/2012 5:58:50 PM PDT by Lancey Howard

Detective Hassan Hamdy made the split-second decision to fire a single fatal shot at an unarmed motorist during an early morning traffic stop on a highway in Queens because he thought the driver was reaching for a gun, according to the detective’s lawyer.

The driver, Noel Polanco, 22, did not comply with Detective Hamdy’s orders to put his hands up, instead reaching “down in a quick motion, down on the floor of the car,” said lawyer Philip Karasyk, representing the detective.

Detective Hamdy twice yelled “Police!” and was wearing a heavy vest with the word “police” written across it, Mr. Karasyk said. “At that point my guy fires, thinking he has a gun,” Mr. Karasyk said in an interview Saturday night. “If this guy had kept his hands up or on the wheel, we wouldn’t be here. Had not for this person reaching down, lunging for the floor and not complying with orders to show his hands, we wouldn’t be here.”

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Mr. Polanco was driving on the Grand Central Parkway just after 5 a.m. on Thursday when he was pulled over by uniformed members of the Police Department’s Emergency Service Unit, who were riding in unmarked vans. They said that he had twice cut them off.

Mr. Karasyk said officers activated lights and sirens and yelled at Mr. Polanco to pull over, but he sped up and continued driving, which escalated the officers’ level of alertness.

“He was a danger to other motorists on the road,” Mr. Karasyk said. "They actually had to box him in and pull him over.”

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Toxicology tests, administered after the shooting, showed no drugs or alcohol in Detective Hamdy’s system, police said.

“He is a squared-away guy. He doesn’t drink. He takes no drugs. He is on no medications whatsoever,” Mr. Karasyk said.

(Excerpt) Read more at cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com ...


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KEYWORDS: hassanhamdy; nypdshooting; nyshooting; polanco; policeshooting; suspiciousshooting
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1 posted on 10/06/2012 5:58:54 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard
Here's the mother, with Al Sharpton. She is currently "shopping for a lawyer".


2 posted on 10/06/2012 6:02:52 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard
Here is Detective Hassan Hamdy:


3 posted on 10/06/2012 6:04:32 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard

Oh boy, you just know the FReeper cop haters will be here soon.


4 posted on 10/06/2012 6:09:04 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Romney vs Obama, Round One: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyNxHOZiQPA)
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To: Lancey Howard
“He is a squared-away guy. He doesn’t drink. He takes no drugs. He is on no medications whatsoever,” Mr. Karasyk said.

All he does is kill people. And at that, as Mr.Polance can attest to, he is very efficent.

5 posted on 10/06/2012 6:12:43 PM PDT by sport
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To: Lancey Howard

My daughter is just learning to drive and is a danger to motorists sometimes...I hope she doesn’t get executed like this guy.


6 posted on 10/06/2012 6:13:46 PM PDT by oust the louse (Obamacare has morphed into a tax on staying alive.)
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To: Lancey Howard

An earlier news story said that he didn’t put his hands up because he had them on the steering wheel, after coming to a stop. This one now says that he reached down toward the floor. So, which was it?

I guess this will depend upon which version is true, and whether there is any evidence to back it.


7 posted on 10/06/2012 6:16:16 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Lancey Howard

Which part of “ no sudden moves and keep your hands in plan sight” didn’t he understand?


8 posted on 10/06/2012 6:17:24 PM PDT by South Dakota (shut up and drill)
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To: Lancey Howard
[A front-seat passenger in Mr. Polanco’s car, however, has refuted Mr. Karasyk’s account, told to him by the detective. The passenger, Diane Deferrari, told investigators that Mr. Polanco had no time to comply with orders to put his hands up. He still had his hands on the steering wheel when he was shot in the abdomen area, according to Ms. Deferrari, who characterized the shooting as police road rage.]
9 posted on 10/06/2012 6:17:54 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: South Dakota

Is that what the cop actually said?

Given the NYPD’s record, one has probable cause to doubt it.


10 posted on 10/06/2012 6:20:13 PM PDT by NVDave
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To: Cicero
An earlier news story said that he didn’t put his hands up because he had them on the steering wheel, after coming to a stop. This one now says that he reached down toward the floor. So, which was it?

Both, possibly.

Not everybody drives with their hands at "10 and 2".

Some drive with one hand (or both) on the lower half of the wheel.

11 posted on 10/06/2012 6:21:32 PM PDT by lightman (Settling for the "lesser of two..." is still choosing Evil)
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To: Lancey Howard

I was on the guys side until Sharpton stepped in.

Now the truth will be difficult to find.


12 posted on 10/06/2012 6:22:01 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: oust the louse
My daughter is just learning to drive and is a danger to motorists sometimes...

I hope she doesn't hurt anybody in my family.

13 posted on 10/06/2012 6:22:01 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard

Ma’am, I was leaning in your direction ‘til I saw your photo with Sharpton.


14 posted on 10/06/2012 6:23:08 PM PDT by theDentist (FUBO; qwerty ergo typo : i type, therefore i misspelll)
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To: Jeff Chandler
I don't hate anybody. I do, however, realize that the police of today are not the police I grew up with. There are a large number of events that disturb anyone that believes in freedom.

If the officer shot they guy as the witness said, he needs to be prosecuted, just like any other criminal.

/johnny

15 posted on 10/06/2012 6:25:13 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Lancey Howard
Noel Polanco; New York Post
16 posted on 10/06/2012 6:26:05 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: NVDave

Given that the police, all across the country, have been shooting first then asking questions, there is plenty of reason to doubt the officer’s side of things.


17 posted on 10/06/2012 6:26:16 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: oust the louse

yeah...since when is reaching down a crime or even a threat? He probably was reaching for his wallet as I used to when I kept mine under my car seat. I am sickened by all of these stories of unionized , trigger happy and BAD under pressure cops..all paid by the U S taxpayer.


18 posted on 10/06/2012 6:26:40 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter"you min)
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To: Jeff Chandler

yeah heaven forbid American citizens should be outraged at the murder of this young man.


19 posted on 10/06/2012 6:27:45 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Jonty30

True.

Look on the bright side of this tragedy: At least no dogs were killed.

Yet.


20 posted on 10/06/2012 6:27:57 PM PDT by NVDave
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To: Jeff Chandler

The cop gets as much benefit of doubt as john Q. Public does.

Actually history shows they as a whole deserve less.


21 posted on 10/06/2012 6:28:38 PM PDT by VRWCarea51
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To: South Dakota

Why was only one round fired? If the cop truly thought there was a threat he should have kept firing.

Why were the cops approaching a traffic stop with their guns drawn?


22 posted on 10/06/2012 6:29:21 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Lancey Howard
It seems like Islamic Terrorism by NYPD !

Tourism should end until Kelly fires these terrorists.


23 posted on 10/06/2012 6:30:38 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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To: Lancey Howard

If it had been the cop who died, there would have been no thread on FR.


24 posted on 10/06/2012 6:31:20 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong!)
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To: Jeff Chandler
Oh boy, you just know the FReeper cop haters will be here soon.

It amazes me how many there are. The cop is always the power-mad brazen killer and the dead "victim" is always the good guy who wuzzint doin nuttin. Every single time. They believe the liberal Democrat newspapers who have acccess ONLY to the dead guys and their families along with alleged neighborhood "witnesses" who always claim the dead guy wuzzint doin nuttin.

25 posted on 10/06/2012 6:31:49 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Revolting cat!
If it had been the cop who died, there would have been no thread on FR.

That is an excellent point.

26 posted on 10/06/2012 6:32:51 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: driftdiver

Bingo all these people defending these cops on freerepublic are getting boring. All we read anymore is a cop shot a dog, a cop shot a old man because they got the wrong house in a raid. Cop shoots teenager for reaching under his seat. People who call us police haters are just police enablers.


27 posted on 10/06/2012 6:33:30 PM PDT by crazydad (-` sd)
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To: Jeff Chandler

The victim Noel Polanco served in the military. Additionally, there was an off-duty copy in the back seat of Polanco’s car who initially confirmed what the passenger, Diane Deferrari, has been saying - namely that the Polanco had his hands on the steering wheel when he was shot. Now the off-duty copy has changed her story and is apparently saying she was asleep when Polanco was shot.


28 posted on 10/06/2012 6:35:00 PM PDT by vbmoneyspender
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To: oust the louse
"I hope she doesn’t get executed like this guy."

We all hope so, too. Just teach her to keep her hands visible and follow instructions, and she will be fine.

I'm not a LEO, but, if some punk who had already threatened me (with his vehicle) pulled a "go for it" move like that, my reaction would quite possibly have been deadly, too...

29 posted on 10/06/2012 6:35:13 PM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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To: Lancey Howard; oust the louse
My uncle used to say the most dangerous animal on the planet was a girl 16-24, with a driver's license.

Now it may be the po-po's.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2941331/posts

30 posted on 10/06/2012 6:35:33 PM PDT by bigheadfred (wowza)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

What was it...”police road rage” or “police ‘roid rage”?


31 posted on 10/06/2012 6:45:35 PM PDT by Third Person (I'm in my prime.)
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To: fabian
yeah...since when is reaching down a crime or even a threat?

My first thought was that he was probably just stashing his drugs under the seat and out of sight, just like any fleeing, speeding, reckless driver would if he finally got boxed in by lights-flashing, sirens-blaring cop vans and forced to pull over at 5:00 in the morning. I mean, sheesh... He gets shot for that?

32 posted on 10/06/2012 6:45:35 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard; Jeff Chandler

Amazes me how so called conservatives will excuse the abuses of power time after time.


33 posted on 10/06/2012 6:50:06 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: NVDave

I don’t know that the cop said anything but when i am stopped I shut the car off, roll down the window and stick both hands out in plain sight


34 posted on 10/06/2012 7:04:22 PM PDT by South Dakota (shut up and drill)
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To: Jeff Chandler

i am not a cop hater. i do believe that “cops” should be under the same laws as anyone else.

you kill someone that has both his hands on the steering wheel without a weapon with several other “peace officers” around him that didn’t see a threat, should cause a pause.

watching andy griffith show when i was but a child, he was a “peace officer”.

now we have “law enforcement officers”. that has benefited us immensely.

murder is murder even if a law enforcement officer does it.

of course, anybody in the government should be exempt from laws imposed on us common citizens.

blessings, bobo


35 posted on 10/06/2012 7:07:21 PM PDT by bobo1
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To: Lancey Howard
Hassan Hamdy

shot the un-armed driver from the passenger side window.

This sounds like an assassination or terrorism under color of law.


36 posted on 10/06/2012 7:14:50 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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To: BenLurkin

Joel Polanco -NYTimes.

37 posted on 10/06/2012 7:15:19 PM PDT by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: Lancey Howard
This fish stinks worse by the hour.
38 posted on 10/06/2012 7:25:15 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Jeff Chandler

Actually, it sounds like the killer and the victim deserve each other.


39 posted on 10/06/2012 7:25:22 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: Jeff Chandler

And the cop groupies.


40 posted on 10/06/2012 7:27:44 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: BenLurkin

Joel Polanco -Facebook

41 posted on 10/06/2012 7:27:59 PM PDT by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: Lancey Howard

I hope the cops don’t shoot anybody in your family.


42 posted on 10/06/2012 7:28:43 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: South Dakota
I don’t know that the cop said anything but when I am stopped I shut the car off, roll down the window and stick both hands out in plain sight.

Sure you do. And that gives you the privilege of making up imaginary "facts" as to what happened and what was said on a NYC freeway at six in the morning one day. Got it.

43 posted on 10/06/2012 7:29:57 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: NVDave

“Given the NYPD’s record, one has probable cause to doubt it”

What exactly is the NYPD’s record? I wasn’t aware they had any more problems than any other PD.

.


44 posted on 10/06/2012 7:34:31 PM PDT by Mears
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To: Third Person
[What was it...”police road rage” or “police ‘roid rage”?]

This Hamby guy looks like he could have both.

45 posted on 10/06/2012 7:42:42 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: TXnMA
"We all hope so, too. Just teach her to keep her hands visible and follow instructions, and she will be fine."

Your theory did not work in this case. When Hassan (arab?) ran from the unmarked van and shot the unarmed driver, the driver had his hands on the steering wheel -- that was the original testimony of a cop at the scene.

46 posted on 10/06/2012 7:57:25 PM PDT by UnwashedPeasant
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To: driftdiver
"Amazes me how so called conservatives will excuse the abuses of power time after time."

A lot of "law-and-order" conservatives are really Statists, and they do not realize it.

47 posted on 10/06/2012 8:00:34 PM PDT by UnwashedPeasant
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To: UnwashedPeasant

aka small “f” freepers.


48 posted on 10/06/2012 8:09:22 PM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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To: hinckley buzzard

No you don’t get it. I made nothing up. I merely stated what you must to to protect yourself. Cops are nervous people, you need to respect that


49 posted on 10/06/2012 8:13:23 PM PDT by South Dakota (shut up and drill)
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To: Mears

The most recent scandal to erupt is the ticket-fixing scandal:

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/01/opinion/the-nypds-ticket-fixing-scandal.html

And in shootings, they NYPD is known for their excessive round count. I guess the beat officers got a memo that said “reloading your hi-cap pistol on an already dead guy ain’t cool.”

NYPD has been one of the most corrupt forces for decades. Another one that is manifestly corrupt is Las Vegas Metro. After that, LA, New Orleans, Chicago, etc. Saying that “everyone does it” isn’t an affirmative defense.


50 posted on 10/06/2012 8:19:08 PM PDT by NVDave
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