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Mother of Man Killed by Police: ‘I Want No Cover-Up; I Want Answers’
New York Times ^ | October 6, 2012 | COLIN MOYNIHAN and WENDY RUDERMAN

Posted on 10/06/2012 5:58:50 PM PDT by Lancey Howard

Detective Hassan Hamdy made the split-second decision to fire a single fatal shot at an unarmed motorist during an early morning traffic stop on a highway in Queens because he thought the driver was reaching for a gun, according to the detective’s lawyer.

The driver, Noel Polanco, 22, did not comply with Detective Hamdy’s orders to put his hands up, instead reaching “down in a quick motion, down on the floor of the car,” said lawyer Philip Karasyk, representing the detective.

Detective Hamdy twice yelled “Police!” and was wearing a heavy vest with the word “police” written across it, Mr. Karasyk said. “At that point my guy fires, thinking he has a gun,” Mr. Karasyk said in an interview Saturday night. “If this guy had kept his hands up or on the wheel, we wouldn’t be here. Had not for this person reaching down, lunging for the floor and not complying with orders to show his hands, we wouldn’t be here.”


Mr. Polanco was driving on the Grand Central Parkway just after 5 a.m. on Thursday when he was pulled over by uniformed members of the Police Department’s Emergency Service Unit, who were riding in unmarked vans. They said that he had twice cut them off.

Mr. Karasyk said officers activated lights and sirens and yelled at Mr. Polanco to pull over, but he sped up and continued driving, which escalated the officers’ level of alertness.

“He was a danger to other motorists on the road,” Mr. Karasyk said. "They actually had to box him in and pull him over.”


Toxicology tests, administered after the shooting, showed no drugs or alcohol in Detective Hamdy’s system, police said.

“He is a squared-away guy. He doesn’t drink. He takes no drugs. He is on no medications whatsoever,” Mr. Karasyk said.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: hassanhamdy; nypdshooting; nyshooting; polanco; policeshooting; suspiciousshooting
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To: BenLurkin

Joel Polanco -Facebook

41 posted on 10/06/2012 7:27:59 PM PDT by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: Lancey Howard

I hope the cops don’t shoot anybody in your family.

42 posted on 10/06/2012 7:28:43 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: South Dakota
I don’t know that the cop said anything but when I am stopped I shut the car off, roll down the window and stick both hands out in plain sight.

Sure you do. And that gives you the privilege of making up imaginary "facts" as to what happened and what was said on a NYC freeway at six in the morning one day. Got it.

43 posted on 10/06/2012 7:29:57 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: NVDave

“Given the NYPD’s record, one has probable cause to doubt it”

What exactly is the NYPD’s record? I wasn’t aware they had any more problems than any other PD.


44 posted on 10/06/2012 7:34:31 PM PDT by Mears
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To: Third Person
[What was it...”police road rage” or “police ‘roid rage”?]

This Hamby guy looks like he could have both.

45 posted on 10/06/2012 7:42:42 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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"We all hope so, too. Just teach her to keep her hands visible and follow instructions, and she will be fine."

Your theory did not work in this case. When Hassan (arab?) ran from the unmarked van and shot the unarmed driver, the driver had his hands on the steering wheel -- that was the original testimony of a cop at the scene.

46 posted on 10/06/2012 7:57:25 PM PDT by UnwashedPeasant
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To: driftdiver
"Amazes me how so called conservatives will excuse the abuses of power time after time."

A lot of "law-and-order" conservatives are really Statists, and they do not realize it.

47 posted on 10/06/2012 8:00:34 PM PDT by UnwashedPeasant
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To: UnwashedPeasant

aka small “f” freepers.

48 posted on 10/06/2012 8:09:22 PM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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To: hinckley buzzard

No you don’t get it. I made nothing up. I merely stated what you must to to protect yourself. Cops are nervous people, you need to respect that

49 posted on 10/06/2012 8:13:23 PM PDT by South Dakota (shut up and drill)
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To: Mears

The most recent scandal to erupt is the ticket-fixing scandal:

And in shootings, they NYPD is known for their excessive round count. I guess the beat officers got a memo that said “reloading your hi-cap pistol on an already dead guy ain’t cool.”

NYPD has been one of the most corrupt forces for decades. Another one that is manifestly corrupt is Las Vegas Metro. After that, LA, New Orleans, Chicago, etc. Saying that “everyone does it” isn’t an affirmative defense.

50 posted on 10/06/2012 8:19:08 PM PDT by NVDave
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To: NVDave

“And in shootings, they NYPD is known for their excessive round count”

And yet only one round was fired here??? Which tells me no other cops had the slightest thought that there was a threat.

51 posted on 10/06/2012 8:21:18 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Lancey Howard

I had the great fortune of driving without a current registration sticker right in front of the White House. It was dark, and I got pulled over. No MPD for me, it was US Secret Service, baby.

The officer approached (I still didn’t know he was a fed) and I placed my hands at 10 and 2. He asked for my license and registration, and I said “I will need to reach for my wallet, and my registration is in the glove compartment”. He replied “do you have any weapons in the car?”, and I said, “no sir”.

He observed my retrieval of the necessary documents, took them back to his vehicle, and returned about 10 minutes later.

He politely, but forcefully, explained that I was subject to significant fines because I was not displaying proper authentication of my registration. I looked him in the eye and said I understood. He let me go and told me to put the goddamn sticker on my plate as soon as I got home.

And he thanked me for keeping my hands visible as he approached and explaining my actions throughout.

It is a shame that it has come to that, but it’s just smart to do it. The greater shame is that I can get pulled over because I don’t have enough duplicative evidence on my vehicle that I’ve complied with every nuisance regulation.

52 posted on 10/06/2012 8:28:02 PM PDT by Mr. Bird
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To: Mr. Bird

Correction: I believe he asked if I had any firearms (not weapons) in the car.

53 posted on 10/06/2012 8:29:15 PM PDT by Mr. Bird
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To: Mr. Bird

I’m about as apple-pie as you can get. And I’ve been pulled over by some angry cops. One was loaded with tattoos and he was especially angry.

He was using radar on the expressway. Sitting on his motorcycle in the median of an expressway where everyone does 85+mph. What a MORON! He almost caused an accident with people mashing their brakes etc...

54 posted on 10/06/2012 8:53:10 PM PDT by bicyclerepair ( REPLACE D-W-S !
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To: bicyclerepair

I used to know a lot of cops. Knew them personally. I knew their wives and girlfriends (we were too young for kids, although some were cooking). They were working in the Western District in Baltimore. They never interacted with “normal”, law abiding citizens. It’s not their fault. Every interaction they had was a potential death sentence. I cut them some slack then, and I do it to all cops to this day.

55 posted on 10/06/2012 8:58:54 PM PDT by Mr. Bird
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To: driftdiver
"And yet only one round was fired here??? "

Seems odd that only one round was fired. I was taught to double tap to the center of mass. Isn't the NYPD taught that? The Marines?

56 posted on 10/06/2012 9:05:09 PM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: Mr. Bird

I do exactly the same thing... hands on the wheel at 10 and 2, fingers and thumbs fully visible. Except, I retrieve my license, registration, and insurance card the second I come to a stop and before the cop approaches my car. I put them on the dashboard in front of me in plain sight so I can pick them up and hand them over. This procedure is pretty effortless, and in this day and age when cops are getting blown away as they approach a thug’s car window, that’s just the way reasonable people handle things.

I swear, half the cop-hating morons who show up on these threads are more likely to sneer at the cop and smart-ass him about their rights than they are to just shut up and cooperate for a few minutes. I am positive I’ve been let off with warnings because I simply cooperated and conducted myself politely.

Sure, there are some bad cops, just like there some bad Boy Scouts, bad Marines, bad priests, bad teachers, and bad everything else. I can’t figure out why some people have to lump all cops into the vile pig category. Like one poster said earlier, you never see an FR thread about a cop getting shot.


57 posted on 10/06/2012 9:17:33 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: ozzymandus
I hope the cops don’t shoot anybody in your family.

I do have this one relative, it's a miracle he hasn't been shot yet.

58 posted on 10/06/2012 9:19:05 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Jeff Chandler

Considering what has been reported about the victim and the cop, Mr Carsick’s story doesn’t seem logical. OTH shooting a civilian for not obeying orders seems exactly the thing Hassan would do.

59 posted on 10/06/2012 9:20:00 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Monarchy is the one system of government where power is exercised for the good of all - Aristotle)
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To: Lancey Howard
Why aren't we hearing directly from the off-duty cop in the back seat who was waving her ID out the window before the shooting???

Did the cat get her tongue???

Why is it now being reported that she slept through this whole thing -- this big police chase with lights flashing and all???

Let's hear directly from her mouth that she was sleeping.

Make her take a lie detector test.

The fact that we don't hear from her tells me that what she witnessed would not corroborate the police officer's story.

60 posted on 10/06/2012 9:26:45 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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